grant morrison - disinfo con lecture - magick

[stephisaint]

when you say he swears by it, he has had sucessful sigils?

Yeah! He started a hardhouse record label a couple of years ago and they're doing really well now . Don't know if you know much about the scene but they're doing co nights with Frantic/tidy/red etc and got loads of great producers signed on.

that looks wicked, mine looks shit

Nahhhhh. I just simplified mine down loads. Figure It's the concept/idea attached to the image that matters, not so much the actual letters

[gwa]

that's sweet, i hope mine hurrys up like.

do you mean stuff like riff raff? i know the guys behind room2 of there

[stephisaint]

that's sweet, i hope mine hurrys up like.

do you mean stuff like riff raff? i know the guys behind room2 of there

The new or old room two? They're changing it for this season... the guy I'm talking about is involved with the new theme

[gwa]

old room 2, chunky house, it's all my frigging mums mates!!! although they want me to send a demo and potentially play at beaver works, could be good

[wayoftheworld]

the way desires manifest can be extremely unexpected, darkly hilarious, beneficial, disappointing, possibly tragic. as a suggestion of how it could potentially work: you sigilize for money and end up getting struck by a car, and then possibly money from a lawsuit. hilarious!

[gwa]

i didn't call for money

[BLAHBLAHJAH]

Man + podium = instant mindtricks

What kind of people keep speakers like this in business? Just man up and bosh 100+ mushies and figure it oot yassen... Unhyped first hand experience, classic example of how every person who hasn't tried hallucinogenics has such an enthusiastic OTT assumption of what 'hallucinations' consist of. Just people like thois don't seem to have any form of understanding, just a collection o' pseudo-intellectual ideas, dunno, becoming so cliché to be a free thinker by subscribing to another free thinker. Call me a nark, but stuff like this is kinda insulting to how great a human mind can be

11:22... Suckah foo's so absorbed they don't even take the direct advice, classic method of testing affinity? Returns again at 28 mins too

Anyone had really serious hallucinations of occult symbols etc before by the way? Kinda felt like it should be menacing/intimidating/'bad trip' but just seemed too cheesy and jokey to be afraid of it in any form, same goes for devil and shite, made me wanna basically 'give the drugs a deadarm' for being a knobhead and generating such tosh. Going to try compress it into a page or something, gnarly styles unrevealed!

Anyway... If ya beard stroking and valueing this dude's ideas more than your own mind, maybe I can sort ya out with a ticket to some real thought? Not meaning to be a dickhead, just offering a way to be free of people like this with infectous minds that do little more than take beauty away from liiiiife

Also... TO THE CRYSTAL MAZE!!!!!!!!!
(MUMSY!)

[parson]

somebody is threatened by magick

[parson]

this is a good little documentary on the occult
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 2778929379#

the second part is about the scientific side
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 1942930229#

[BLAHBLAHJAH]

Not threatened by magick, just insulted by ironic mind control attained by slagging off "mind control"... Schrodinger's scrotum

[parson]

this guy is literally saying that if you don't control your own reality, somebody else will, so you may as well grab the reigns. sigil magick is a method of communicating with the unconscious mind and shaping reality according to the will of the practitioner. everything you're talking about is irrelevant nonsense.

[stephisaint]

Not threatened by magick, just insulted by ironic mind control attained by slagging off "mind control"... Schrodinger's scrotum

Nahh. Most of the stuff talked about is scientifically sound. Yeah the language used is sometimes a bit implausable: "larvae", "magick" (in itself a term I don't agree with), but all he's doing is telling people to think for themselves and use the power of positive thinking. We know positive thinking works through the use of placebos in medicine and that thought process affects quantum experiments, so it's hard for me to see what it is you actually don't believe him about?

[gwa]

so i take it grant morrison is fibbing when he said that he wrote about having cancer or something and then he got cancer? (might not of been cancer, but he fell ill)

[BLAHBLAHJAH]

Maybe so, but step back a litte man. Are people like him controlling or just contorting what you consider to be your reality? Definately not interested in changing your thoughts on things, just would be good to intercept the pollution towards the gullible, and perhaps break the cyclic and polar nature of opposing "beliefs" meeting... Live by thought instead

Scientifically sound? At what level? It's a rehash of obvious statements mixed with a few sugarry ideas... Did y'all even watch it? 23mins... Did you fall into that catergory? (question stream hit combo!) Why do people naturally assume that others need telling 'to think for themselves'? Is that not self destructive advice? Paradoxical? HOLY SHISH IT DEEP

Also if 'sigils' wroked, no one would ever have a real skiving sick day. Ya ring in, "sorry boss m8, I got fucking... bumworms, can't come in!" Then later on in the day you notice some funny itching patterns. Shit don't tick like that, and I'm pretty sure most of my family that's dead from things as 'glorious' as cancer didn't wish for it... What's more, I know they wished to be purged

Also

"Grant Morrison THE disinfo speech...45:27 - 1 year ago
how to use magic to hack into the matrix, expand your consciousness & get laid! "

WOO! Good luck to you weirdos in your quest to lose your virginity

[stephisaint]

Mate no offence, but replying to something you don't even want to try to understand by making vast assumptions on our "gullible" personalities isn't exctly admirable.

You say he's trying to control? Well if he is, what exactly is his motive? He's not telling people to buy anything, he's not asking people to revolt against any particular way of life/society, what exactly is he trying to get gullible people to do? .. Apart from maybe start to think more positively about life. Even if you are sceptical about aliens (which I am), you can't still deny that encouraging people to take control over themselves in an inherantly lazy "blame everything apart from ourselves" modern society isn't a bad thing.

"Scientifically sound"... As already stated, the use and effect of placebos in medicine is widely documented, as is the power of thought in quantum physics discussed... Don't blame him for expecting a certain level of intelligence among his listeners.

[BLAHBLAHJAH]

Think you missed my point to be honest...

We live in a world where Einstein's brain would cost much less than George Bush's, simply because 'it's been used'

Also, by 'gullible' I didn't mean [the people you class as 'US'] (maybe ditch the herding attitude and become free (sorry!) ) but more the younger people in life that genuinely havn't arrived at a point where it's totally necassary to try and understand life. Surely you can see the irony that having thoughts about freedom, free thinking etc can be a bit imprisoning when 'role models' and ideals are dragged into the situation? Why do people a) instinctively assume that other people need to be rudely awakened and become hybridised mentally b) value this one dude's opinions greater than their own, when ultimately, his message is of 'experience' which must be attained by oneself. You've failed at free thinking the minute you practice elevation and impersonation of another person's mind

Sometimes I think that people are just bitter at having the burden of being 'awake', similar to being a student rinsing loud music at 9am to wake everyone else up "just because you're a morning grumpy with twisted knickers"

Take it with a pinch o' salt anyway, don't get bugged out, and to add a bit o' alien pimp styles, maybe consider the irony of preaching about free thinking yet assuming I'm an untelligent tnuc for not thinking on your wavelengths

When I'm dead my brain will only be worth 10p

[stephisaint]

Hmm..

Think you missed my point to be honest...

[BLAHBLAHJAH]

haha touché miss

Maybe an ignorant person would say "why don't blind people try to see again" - maybe a fool would fall for the 'Bronnikov school of sight restortaion', see the Derren Brown ting as a v crude example. More basic, less adventurous: maybe all of the bald people in that crowd should sigilise the restoration of their follicles. Simple experiment to determine the extent of 'molecular control' in a system that's governed by chemical interactions. Also is slightly less adventurous than the miracles of jesus (although I have used fermentation to turn water into wine )

It ain't hard to think of ways to test these things is it, so why add weight to untested water or think that people who don't see it as profound must be stupid

P.S. Is chivalry a form of sexism?

[parson]

blahblah you're constantly embarrassing yourself. its impossible to take anything you say seriously. you have no idea what you're talking about but it doesn't slow you down at all.

[BLAHBLAHJAH]

Good Can't say I expect it to be taken serious, gotta flavour it with some lame humour. Don't be so ignant, maybe admit you have no idea what I'm talking about (which is why you're attracted to transparent stuff). Things like this are just silly and can only lead to something mimicing a religion...

Surprising that someone can claim to have profound psychedelic experiences yet still fall for someone selling the Argos versions

Lame how the fuck do you get other 'smilies' to work on here? Does naff all when press on the bastids