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Re: Time Traveller

Post by knell » Sun Oct 31, 2010 4:32 am

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Re: Time Traveller

Post by butt jolokia » Sun Oct 31, 2010 4:54 am

Time IS a system of measurement.

But what does it measure?

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Re: Time Traveller

Post by knell » Sun Oct 31, 2010 6:39 am

i have a feeling time is something pretty complicated, but we can only perceive it the way humans can, which probably doesnt scratch the surface

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Re: Time Traveller

Post by butt jolokia » Sun Oct 31, 2010 6:41 am

knell wrote:i have a feeling time is something pretty complicated, but we can only perceive it the way humans can, which probably doesnt scratch the surface
time is nothing but a human concept.

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Re: Time Traveller

Post by butt jolokia » Sun Oct 31, 2010 6:47 am

Lets speak in impossibilities. If time travel is possible, I would travel to the end of time.
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edit: time travel is possible. i used my one jump to edit this page.
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Re: Time Traveller

Post by knell » Sun Oct 31, 2010 6:53 am

i had no idea you had this side to you!

i wanted to spill the whole human concept idea, but, it is something that we can perceive, so it must exist in some sense...

have you seen the thread i made today about time travel? im surprised youre not all over it if you feel this way

http://www.dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=167706

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Re: Time Traveller

Post by butt jolokia » Sun Oct 31, 2010 7:00 am

knell wrote:i had no idea you had this side to you!

i wanted to spill the whole human concept idea, but, it is something that we can perceive, so it must exist in some sense...

have you seen the thread i made today about time travel? im surprised youre not all over it if you feel this way

http://www.dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=167706
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Re: Time Traveller

Post by butt jolokia » Sun Oct 31, 2010 8:38 am

What a lot of people fail to understand... is that time travel by definition, is something completely illogical. When people think of the usual idea of time travel, they are really trying to express Actuality Traveling. Actual events that pass are just that; Passed! Actualities and time are not connected to each other beyond the present moment of the happening. Not in the future and not in the pass.

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Re: Time Traveller

Post by butt jolokia » Sun Oct 31, 2010 8:46 am

Imagine this.

All of the instruments(clocks) and proofs of time measurement (light in a day) suddenly proportionally recalibrate to increase time-measurement increments twice fold.

What changes take place?

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Re: Time Traveller

Post by magma » Sun Oct 31, 2010 11:51 am

butt jolokia wrote:
knell wrote:i have a feeling time is something pretty complicated, but we can only perceive it the way humans can, which probably doesnt scratch the surface
time is nothing but a human concept.
Hmm, not so much. I think most animals are aware of the passage of time in some shape or form. They just haven't built time/date systems and clocks to measure it as accurately as we need to because of farming and working constraints (and simply our cognitive ability to do so..)
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Re: Time Traveller

Post by BLAHBLAHJAH » Sun Oct 31, 2010 1:48 pm

butt jolokia wrote:Time IS a system of measurement.

But what does it measure?
Ahhh this pickled my mind many a mashed nights (and also in some dump physics exam as a kid, spent the hour wondering this rather than ticking boxes ha). Here's some of my tangled thoughts for anyone who's remotely interested...
Speed = Distance/time
Time = Distance/Speed

Distance/speed in its most convential terms is understood as 'travel' (i.e. miles(d) per hour (t). So what form of travel gives rise to 'time'? Expansion and rotation are the prime suspects. Lets you wonder why planets/their systems have motion (ooo or even why things beyond atomic structure have motion? Conspiracy? Just starting to get really interested in the motion of planets and things, don't know enough to use it as examples etc yet though). Just a case of trying to think about things a step further into a system, like you know a day is one rotation of a planet about its axis and what a year is, but then, what are the consequences? To focus more on the human experience side o' things... Circular logic says it's easier to compress all dimensions into a 2d 'conveyor belt' and mark it with the rate at which life deceases (interestingly enough, is mainly governed by the effects of oxygen (free radicals) on DNA). These very reactive molecules easily react with molecules in the body such as DNA, causing mutations (alterations) in the sequence of genetic material. The accumulation of changes (a measurement of distance/speed) is then thought to lead to the development of aging and degenerative diseases.

In that respect, time is purely a measurement of the distance involved in decay through all the phases of replication... Anyway, 3 minutes without oxygen is enough to 'relatively' stop time ;)

Ha this is the video that actually helped me in physics exam as a wee bastard and lead to this thought
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Re: Time Traveller

Post by butt jolokia » Sun Oct 31, 2010 3:19 pm

If one was to time travel into the past... which direction would you go, and how long would it take for you to reach your destination?

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Re: Time Traveller

Post by crackf » Sun Oct 31, 2010 8:05 pm

butt jolokia wrote:If one was to time travel into the past... which direction would you go, and how long would it take for you to reach your destination?
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Re: Time Traveller

Post by sigbowls » Sun Oct 31, 2010 8:07 pm

id go west to japan
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Re: Time Traveller

Post by WhosZena » Sun Oct 31, 2010 8:43 pm

About time being an illusion, im backing this
Beyond time, there is something our human brains wont accept
It is possible to manipulate time perspective, I mean we do this to some degree all the time
But disregarding the past and future is, from what ive gathered is the only way to overcome this barrier altogether

But why time travel? I mean what good could come ever from it?
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Re: Time Traveller

Post by christophera » Mon Nov 01, 2010 12:24 am

if time travel is not possible then neither is traveling through space because space and time are aspects of the same thing and if you knew ANYTHING about physics you'd shut up

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Re: Time Traveller

Post by christophera » Mon Nov 01, 2010 12:25 am

time is not a human construct. the persistence of time is a human perception however.

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Re: Time Traveller

Post by butt jolokia » Mon Nov 01, 2010 12:54 am

christophera wrote:time is not a human construct. the persistence of time is a human perception however.

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Re: Time Traveller

Post by butt jolokia » Mon Nov 01, 2010 1:01 am

If one was to travel to the past (events that have already happened), the one must leave at a certain point in time. So

when you leave the present at THAT point in time, you will no longer exist nor have a cause and effect on a future

existence. And actually, all of your past existences will reach that departing point in time. Which will cause a infinite

amount of clones of yourself spilling in the past-time destination.
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Re: Time Traveller

Post by butt jolokia » Mon Nov 01, 2010 1:04 am

christophera wrote:if time travel is not possible then neither is traveling through space because space and time are aspects of the same thing and if you knew ANYTHING about physics you'd shut up
They are NOT connected. Try running faster through space. Do you understand how computers work?

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