Juke / Footwork

[contakt321]

I personally cannot stand the revival of juke, especially the djs that let songs ride. Juke/Ghettotech has always been synonymous with turntablism. Now we have these juke songs that are 4+ minutes long, rediculous. All my old juke records are ~2 minutes per song and I like it that way, it forces the dj to be creative with juggling and etc.

Agreed

[qwaycee_]

I personally cannot stand the revival of juke, especially the djs that let songs ride. Juke/Ghettotech has always been synonymous with turntablism. Now we have these juke songs that are 4+ minutes long, rediculous. All my old juke records are ~2 minutes per song and I like it that way, it forces the dj to be creative with juggling and etc.

Agreed

found this interesting myself. i noticed what collective said when listening to tunes on youtube. and dubstep djs arent turntablists per se. i've even heard people diss turnbalism.

[collective]

I personally cannot stand the revival of juke, especially the djs that let songs ride. Juke/Ghettotech has always been synonymous with turntablism. Now we have these juke songs that are 4+ minutes long, rediculous. All my old juke records are ~2 minutes per song and I like it that way, it forces the dj to be creative with juggling and etc.

Agreed

found this interesting myself. i noticed what collective said when listening to tunes on youtube. and dubstep djs arent turntablists per se. i've even heard people diss turnbalism.

i think that just shows the monumental ignorance some people have over the history of electronic music. A juke/ghettotech set should be switching songs ever 20-40 seconds end of story. Its not about taste or style its just how its done. If people don't have the chops (and I notice less and less djs do) to make that happen, step off.

[mks]

I've been fortunate to have cats like DJ Sluggo (Chicago) and DJ Godfather, Clutch, and DJ Assault (Detroit) come through town over the past few years. And that's just talking about the ghettotech/juke DJ's. That's not to mention all of the Chicago/Detroit house and techno people that I've had a chance to hang out with and hear.

What I'm trying to say is that US Midwest DJ's have a very distinct style of playing that you are not going to hear unless you catch them live. I've definitely taken a lot of influence from those DJ's. It's like the history of Disco/Funk/Electro/House/Techno/Hip-Hop all rolled into one with skills on the decks and fast mixing.

Dope shit man...

[collective]

I've been fortunate to have cats like DJ Sluggo (Chicago) and DJ Godfather, Clutch, and DJ Assault (Detroit) come through town over the past few years. And that's just talking about the ghettotech/juke DJ's. That's not to mention all of the Chicago/Detroit house and techno people that I've had a chance to hang out with and hear.

What I'm trying to say is that US Midwest DJ's have a very distinct style of playing that you are not going to hear unless you catch them live. I've definitely taken a lot of influence from those DJ's. It's like the history of Disco/Funk/Electro/House/Techno/Hip-Hop all rolled into one with skills on the decks and fast mixing.

Dope shit man...

^TRUTH!

[contakt321]

I've been fortunate to have cats like DJ Sluggo (Chicago) and DJ Godfather, Clutch, and DJ Assault (Detroit) come through town over the past few years. And that's just talking about the ghettotech/juke DJ's. That's not to mention all of the Chicago/Detroit house and techno people that I've had a chance to hang out with and hear.

What I'm trying to say is that US Midwest DJ's have a very distinct style of playing that you are not going to hear unless you catch them live. I've definitely taken a lot of influence from those DJ's. It's like the history of Disco/Funk/Electro/House/Techno/Hip-Hop all rolled into one with skills on the decks and fast mixing.

Dope shit man...

^TRUTH!

Definitely

[Sharmaji]

i've got a dj assault mixtape from 2000 (DJ ASSAULT OFF THE MOTHERFUCKIN CHAIN FOR THE Y2K) which I believe is something like 90 tracks in 60 minutes. Even the classic "Ass & Titties" only runs for 34 seconds (jacked up to like 182 bpm)... this shit is real!

And "Ride" is some original 'drumstep'

[abZ]

growing up in detroit, i actually got to work with gillespie and godfather (the guys that run/own databass and twilight 76), i still have boxes of vinyl they would toss my way. Going to have dig them out again.

I also remember everyday (and i think its still true to this day) from 4-6pm on the radio, they had djs (during my time it was godfather) spinning "ghettotech" for the drive home... legend.

I personally cannot stand the revival of juke, especially the djs that let songs ride. Juke/Ghettotech has always been synonymous with turntablism. Now we have these juke songs that are 4+ minutes long, rediculous. All my old juke records are ~2 minutes per song and I like it that way, it forces the dj to be creative with juggling and etc.

I played a gig in Windsor in like 99/2000 and I had never really heard the stuff but Shortstop was there among others. Shortstop just blew me away completely. I am not even sure you can understand this music till you see one of these guys play it. He gave me his 12" on Databass. I still have it.

Seems like people are talking about it like it's some new thing? It is defo not. It's not the new dubstep if anything, it's the new Baltimore club the way they dusted that shit off for a new audience. I think it sounds cool that kinda vibe mixed in with dubstep or funky but not all night of that please!

[legend4ry]

150-160


And people got to remember that this kind of thing is new the clubs of England or at least, with footcrab and work them its allowed DJs to play tunes / do whole sets without thinking it won't go down well!


Its good to see an American style of music influencing the UK Dubstep world and not getting slated to shit, its about time!

[abZ]

150-160


And people got to remember that this kind of thing is new the clubs of England or at least, with footcrab and work them its allowed DJs to play tunes / do whole sets without thinking it won't go down well!


Its good to see an American style of music influencing the UK Dubstep world and not getting slated to shit, its about time!

Well I don't know, house and techno have been influencing it for a long time I don't think any one is going to say anything bad about that shit. The shit that gets slated is the US heads doing UK music aka me among many others

Edit - and hiphop and everything else, I don't know why this is always forgotten. The UK hasn't really started anything but they have refined things to a certain degree. Especially with rock and dance music,

[collective]

I played a gig in Windsor in like 99/2000 and I had never really heard the stuff but Shortstop was there among others. Shortstop just blew me away completely. I am not even sure you can understand this music till you see one of these guys play it. He gave me his 12" on Databass. I still have it.

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shortstop thats a throwback, i havent heard that name since the late 90s. And you are right, you really need to see them for it all to work.

And I gotta say, I haven't seen any new djs really pull it off, at least with the new influx.

[cloak and dagger]

DJ Godfather is a GREAT DJ, seen him enough times and he was great every time.

Another one who is just as good is DJ Family from Tokyo.


And the best ghettotech mix I've heard is a Starsky & Clutch CD I have, I can't remember the name though (if there was one)...I just checked Discogs for it, but I got it in 2002 or 2003, and they don't have anything that old listed...

[Recessive Trait]

dance fighting! yes!

[ketamine]

Ok, here’s my attempt at it:

Soundcloud

Didn’t feel like spending hours on end sampling rap acappellas for one experiment, so its an instrumental.

[hasezwei]

@ketamine: love the vocal, bass is ok but the whole thing seems pretty downtempo. wouldnt get me hyped on a dancefloor, but thats not necessarily a bad thing. chillout juke, hell yeah
the atmospheres are nice, too but... i think it lacks in midrange (i know, not a nice term to use round here), it's like there's a giant frequency hole in it. only lows and highs, maybe fill it up with some rhodes or so? or... some really nice delay/reverbed plucked strings, i dunno. just to make it sound more full.

also: 230 pls!?!!?

[ketamine]

@ketamine: love the vocal, bass is ok but the whole thing seems pretty downtempo. wouldnt get me hyped on a dancefloor, but thats not necessarily a bad thing. chillout juke, hell yeah
the atmospheres are nice, too but... i think it lacks in midrange (i know, not a nice term to use round here), it's like there's a giant frequency hole in it. only lows and highs, maybe fill it up with some rhodes or so? or... some really nice delay/reverbed plucked strings, i dunno. just to make it sound more full.

also: 230 pls!?!!?

Thanks! I believe its just the lack of a repetitive rap vocal over it, that makes it sound slow. Its going at 163, with kick & hats almost the whole time. I used a song from the video I posted as a template, then laid my own instruments over it… Everybodys saying its slow… I could have let the hats ride the whole time I guess, maybe its Dubstep influence unconsciously rising from the tune… Dunno, don’t care really, as I’m already bored with the genre and the tune… LOL

[hasezwei]

@ketamine: love the vocal, bass is ok but the whole thing seems pretty downtempo. wouldnt get me hyped on a dancefloor, but thats not necessarily a bad thing. chillout juke, hell yeah
the atmospheres are nice, too but... i think it lacks in midrange (i know, not a nice term to use round here), it's like there's a giant frequency hole in it. only lows and highs, maybe fill it up with some rhodes or so? or... some really nice delay/reverbed plucked strings, i dunno. just to make it sound more full.

also: 230 pls!?!!?

Thanks! I believe its just the lack of a repetitive rap vocal over it, that makes it sound slow. Its going at 163, with kick & hats almost the whole time. I used a song from the video I posted as a template, then laid my own instruments over it… Everybodys saying its slow… I could have let the hats ride the whole time I guess, maybe its Dubstep influence unconsciously rising from the tune… Dunno, don’t care really, as I’m already bored with the genre and the tune… LOL

i'd say its the dubstep influence, halfstep ting! other juke stuff i heard sounds like a tornado made of claps and toms to me, like it's 320 instead of 160bpm.
a pro pos 320, you ain't gonna finish that song? dig it, i'm trying to do some cross-genre mixes atm and could really see this working in there (mind you, i'm not a dj just a kid with a mixer but you'd make someone happy with that tune ).
actually i think this sounds better than the juke stuff released on planet mu
not better than the tunes in the ghettotekz chicago footwork video though

[frank grimes jr.]

Juke sucks.

[juxta]

135ish and 909/808 cowbells and toms

is Juke going to be the new Dubstep?

Juke is not dubstep, and has nothing to do with it. its a form of house. and its done usually at 160.

[ketamine]

@ketamine: love the vocal, bass is ok but the whole thing seems pretty downtempo. wouldnt get me hyped on a dancefloor, but thats not necessarily a bad thing. chillout juke, hell yeah
the atmospheres are nice, too but... i think it lacks in midrange (i know, not a nice term to use round here), it's like there's a giant frequency hole in it. only lows and highs, maybe fill it up with some rhodes or so? or... some really nice delay/reverbed plucked strings, i dunno. just to make it sound more full.

also: 230 pls!?!!?

Thanks! I believe its just the lack of a repetitive rap vocal over it, that makes it sound slow. Its going at 163, with kick & hats almost the whole time. I used a song from the video I posted as a template, then laid my own instruments over it… Everybodys saying its slow… I could have let the hats ride the whole time I guess, maybe its Dubstep influence unconsciously rising from the tune… Dunno, don’t care really, as I’m already bored with the genre and the tune… LOL

i'd say its the dubstep influence, halfstep ting! other juke stuff i heard sounds like a tornado made of claps and toms to me, like it's 320 instead of 160bpm.
a pro pos 320, you ain't gonna finish that song? dig it, i'm trying to do some cross-genre mixes atm and could really see this working in there (mind you, i'm not a dj just a kid with a mixer but you'd make someone happy with that tune ).
actually i think this sounds better than the juke stuff released on planet mu
not better than the tunes in the ghettotekz chicago footwork video though

Click at 2:40. that’s the song I used… I don’t know why my song sounds slow, that one is slow except for the vocals. LOL Thanks for all the kind words...