Fair point. But surely you can still call someone out as being a bit of a dick though.gnome wrote:Coogan's just another white man fighting the racism battle. Which isn't his battle, as he, like most white western people has never experienced racism properly. I would be able to tak his points had they been from a Mexican. Rather than a man in his castle pointing out how other people are doing wrong to other people. Quit whinging white man.
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Re: Steve Coogan on Top Gear's racial stereotyping
Re: Steve Coogan on Top Gear's racial stereotyping
stereotypes only come about for one reason
if you dont want to be stereotyped, do something to change it. i rather like the show and their "racial" remarks, gives for a good laugh. everyone is too soft these days, i've been taught to not give a damn about what people SAY..only what people DO to YOU.
if you dont want to be stereotyped, do something to change it. i rather like the show and their "racial" remarks, gives for a good laugh. everyone is too soft these days, i've been taught to not give a damn about what people SAY..only what people DO to YOU.
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Re: Steve Coogan on Top Gear's racial stereotyping
It's everyone's battle.gnome wrote:Coogan's just another white man fighting the racism battle. Which isn't his battle, as he, like most white western people has never experienced racism properly. I would be able to tak his points had they been from a Mexican. Rather than a man in his castle pointing out how other people are doing wrong to other people. Quit whinging white man.
You need everyone to work together to fight racism. If you go "Oh, he's white, he shouldn't be arguing about racism" then it's just another instance of racism.
I've never experienced starvation or war but that doesn't mean I should just sit there and think "Never happened to me so better not do anything".
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probably because you're a 'racist'.DubDreams wrote:stereotypes only come about for one reason![]()
if you dont want to be stereotyped, do something to change it. i rather like the show and their "racial" remarks, gives for a good laugh. everyone is too soft these days, i've been taught to not give a damn about what people SAY..only what people DO to YOU.
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Lmfao.gnome wrote:Coogan's just another white man fighting the racism battle. Which isn't his battle, as he, like most white western people has never experienced racism properly. I would be able to tak his points had they been from a Mexican. Rather than a man in his castle pointing out how other people are doing wrong to other people. Quit whinging white man.
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lol no.wolf89 wrote:Fair point..gnome wrote:Coogan's just another white man fighting the racism battle. Which isn't his battle, as he, like most white western people has never experienced racism properly. I would be able to tak his points had they been from a Mexican. Rather than a man in his castle pointing out how other people are doing wrong to other people. Quit whinging white man.
not a 'fair point' at all
thats stupid and inherently racist in itself.
'another white man fighting the racism battle' - LOL you think you're Malcolm X or something?!
what a joke
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Nonoam wrote:lol no.wolf89 wrote:Fair point..gnome wrote:Coogan's just another white man fighting the racism battle. Which isn't his battle, as he, like most white western people has never experienced racism properly. I would be able to tak his points had they been from a Mexican. Rather than a man in his castle pointing out how other people are doing wrong to other people. Quit whinging white man.
not a 'fair point' at all
thats stupid and inherently racist in itself.
'another white man fighting the racism battle' - LOL you think you're Malcolm X or something?!
what a joke
What I meant was that no-one has spoken out so much to my knowledge who is of Mexican descent. I don't know how offensive it would be. Being that I'm white. That's all I meant.
I still think they were being dicks and pretty racist. Which is why I went on to say that you should still be able to call someone out if they're being a dick. Which is what Coogan is doing
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Re: Steve Coogan on Top Gear's racial stereotyping
Steve Coogan's probably been called a cracker once or twice in his life.
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other than the Mexican ambassador who lodged the original complaint...wolf89 wrote:Nonoam wrote:lol no.wolf89 wrote:Fair point..gnome wrote:Coogan's just another white man fighting the racism battle. Which isn't his battle, as he, like most white western people has never experienced racism properly. I would be able to tak his points had they been from a Mexican. Rather than a man in his castle pointing out how other people are doing wrong to other people. Quit whinging white man.
not a 'fair point' at all
thats stupid and inherently racist in itself.
'another white man fighting the racism battle' - LOL you think you're Malcolm X or something?!
what a joke
What I meant was that no-one has spoken out so much to my knowledge who is of Mexican descent. I don't know how offensive it would. That's all I meant.
I still think they were being dicks. Which is why I went on to say that you should still be able to call someone out if they're being a dick. Which is what Coogan is doing
Re: Steve Coogan on Top Gear's racial stereotyping
First I heard of it. To be honest till this thread I didn't realise people were that pissed over it.Badman Juice wrote:other than the Mexican ambassador who lodged the original complaint...wolf89 wrote:Nonoam wrote:lol no.wolf89 wrote:Fair point..gnome wrote:Coogan's just another white man fighting the racism battle. Which isn't his battle, as he, like most white western people has never experienced racism properly. I would be able to tak his points had they been from a Mexican. Rather than a man in his castle pointing out how other people are doing wrong to other people. Quit whinging white man.
not a 'fair point' at all
thats stupid and inherently racist in itself.
'another white man fighting the racism battle' - LOL you think you're Malcolm X or something?!
what a joke
What I meant was that no-one has spoken out so much to my knowledge who is of Mexican descent. I don't know how offensive it would. That's all I meant.
I still think they were being dicks. Which is why I went on to say that you should still be able to call someone out if they're being a dick. Which is what Coogan is doing
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I think it's just being used as an excuse for everyone to vent their completely understandable anger at Clarkson and everything he represents.
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lol as a comedian I am quite sure Steve Coogan is perfectly qualified to speak about how funny or unfunny certain 'jokes' are tbfgnome wrote:Coogan's just another white man fighting the racism battle. Which isn't his battle, as he, like most white western people has never experienced racism properly. I would be able to tak his points had they been from a Mexican. Rather than a man in his castle pointing out how other people are doing wrong to other people. Quit whinging white man.
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Yeah he is a comedian. But he ain't no mexican. He seems to be offended by what they have said...but why? Because he likes to think himself as some sort of good person who is not rascist and he must show this by his statements. Seems silly considering all white people have that deep inside feeling of superiority over other races. Althought not one white man will admit it...Will you?capo ultra wrote:lol as a comedian I am quite sure Steve Coogan is perfectly qualified to speak about how funny or unfunny certain 'jokes' are tbfgnome wrote:Coogan's just another white man fighting the racism battle. Which isn't his battle, as he, like most white western people has never experienced racism properly. I would be able to tak his points had they been from a Mexican. Rather than a man in his castle pointing out how other people are doing wrong to other people. Quit whinging white man.
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wtf are you on about?gnome wrote:Yeah he is a comedian. But he ain't no mexican. He seems to be offended by what they have said...but why? Because he likes to think himself as some sort of good person who is not rascist and he must show this by his statements. Seems silly considering all white people have that deep inside feeling of superiority over other races. Althought not one white man will admit it...Will you?capo ultra wrote:lol as a comedian I am quite sure Steve Coogan is perfectly qualified to speak about how funny or unfunny certain 'jokes' are tbfgnome wrote:Coogan's just another white man fighting the racism battle. Which isn't his battle, as he, like most white western people has never experienced racism properly. I would be able to tak his points had they been from a Mexican. Rather than a man in his castle pointing out how other people are doing wrong to other people. Quit whinging white man.
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You rascistnoam wrote:wtf are you on about?gnome wrote:Yeah he is a comedian. But he ain't no mexican. He seems to be offended by what they have said...but why? Because he likes to think himself as some sort of good person who is not rascist and he must show this by his statements. Seems silly considering all white people have that deep inside feeling of superiority over other races. Althought not one white man will admit it...Will you?capo ultra wrote:lol as a comedian I am quite sure Steve Coogan is perfectly qualified to speak about how funny or unfunny certain 'jokes' are tbfgnome wrote:Coogan's just another white man fighting the racism battle. Which isn't his battle, as he, like most white western people has never experienced racism properly. I would be able to tak his points had they been from a Mexican. Rather than a man in his castle pointing out how other people are doing wrong to other people. Quit whinging white man.
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Re: Steve Coogan on Top Gear's racial stereotyping
maybe he just likes enchiladas and was offended by their comments about the cuisine.gnome wrote:Yeah he is a comedian. But he ain't no mexican. He seems to be offended by what they have said...but why? Because he likes to think himself as some sort of good person who is not rascist and he must show this by his statements. Seems silly considering all white people have that deep inside feeling of superiority over other races. Althought not one white man will admit it...Will you?capo ultra wrote:lol as a comedian I am quite sure Steve Coogan is perfectly qualified to speak about how funny or unfunny certain 'jokes' are tbfgnome wrote:Coogan's just another white man fighting the racism battle. Which isn't his battle, as he, like most white western people has never experienced racism properly. I would be able to tak his points had they been from a Mexican. Rather than a man in his castle pointing out how other people are doing wrong to other people. Quit whinging white man.
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who doesn't like enchiladas?!? he must be a MADMAN!
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Oh I didn't think from that perspective. Mexican food is shit but.Badman Juice wrote:maybe he just likes enchiladas and was offended by their comments about the cuisine.gnome wrote:Yeah he is a comedian. But he ain't no mexican. He seems to be offended by what they have said...but why? Because he likes to think himself as some sort of good person who is not rascist and he must show this by his statements. Seems silly considering all white people have that deep inside feeling of superiority over other races. Althought not one white man will admit it...Will you?capo ultra wrote:lol as a comedian I am quite sure Steve Coogan is perfectly qualified to speak about how funny or unfunny certain 'jokes' are tbfgnome wrote:Coogan's just another white man fighting the racism battle. Which isn't his battle, as he, like most white western people has never experienced racism properly. I would be able to tak his points had they been from a Mexican. Rather than a man in his castle pointing out how other people are doing wrong to other people. Quit whinging white man.
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I really hope you're not white, you have a fucked up opinion either waygnome wrote:Yeah he is a comedian. But he ain't no mexican. He seems to be offended by what they have said...but why? Because he likes to think himself as some sort of good person who is not rascist and he must show this by his statements. Seems silly considering all white people have that deep inside feeling of superiority over other races. Althought not one white man will admit it...Will you?capo ultra wrote:lol as a comedian I am quite sure Steve Coogan is perfectly qualified to speak about how funny or unfunny certain 'jokes' are tbfgnome wrote:Coogan's just another white man fighting the racism battle. Which isn't his battle, as he, like most white western people has never experienced racism properly. I would be able to tak his points had they been from a Mexican. Rather than a man in his castle pointing out how other people are doing wrong to other people. Quit whinging white man.
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Re: Steve Coogan on Top Gear's racial stereotyping
Nothing particular wrong with using stereotypes as jokes, as long as you can tell they arent being used in malicious ways. I havent seen that bit in Top Gear but Clarkson does strike me as someone who would use racial jokes for the wrong reasons.
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