New resampling technique [tutorial update]

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Re: New resampling technique

Post by Demian » Wed Feb 16, 2011 3:17 pm

That sounded awesome! I was always wondering how Eskmo did the rolling time stretch bass drop effects...not a clue if this is how, but damn that sounds wicked!

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Re: New resampling technique

Post by the dub lemon » Wed Feb 16, 2011 4:41 pm

Sick sounds there mate!

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Re: New resampling technique

Post by thor_beatz » Wed Feb 16, 2011 7:38 pm

cheers guys!
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Re: New resampling technique

Post by izaac c » Wed Feb 16, 2011 7:51 pm

ye been using this technique for about 18 months, liking the drums on ya track, can sort of hear itcome through on our reeces,
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Re: New resampling technique

Post by thor_beatz » Thu Feb 17, 2011 12:22 pm

wicked sounds Izaac. nce and neuro!
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Re: New resampling technique

Post by hasezwei » Thu Feb 17, 2011 4:05 pm

speaking of resampling... i never really get the results other people do when resampling. probably i'm doing the wrong things/applying the wrong fx in between steps, to be honest i don't even know what to do.
i just create a nice gnarly sound without automations in my synth, beef that up even more with waveshapers and tubes and all that jazz, then bounce it. load it into a sampler, apply some different lowpass-filter automations, bounce all of them.
then i chop them up like a breakbeat, and after that... well i don't quite know what to do. i frequency-split the final bassline into 3 bands, but only to mix and compress those differently (i like to have the midrange a bit lower and heavily sidechain it to get some extra movement). but even after doing that, it's basically just a variation of the sound i initially created in massive (or anything else i'd use).

is there more to it? do the sounds really change *drastically* in between different resampling stages? in other words, is it a purely subtractive method or are there additive steps? and what exactly do you do after you cut it up for the first time? stick another automated filter on top of your automated filters?

i'd kinda like to see a step by step tutorial, not explaining how to actually resample and freqsplit (that's been covered to death, srsly) but more like an example signal/resampling chain from start to finish, to really illustrate what to do in between stages. it's probably time-consuming to do that but i'm sure it'd help a lot of people.

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Re: New resampling technique

Post by thor_beatz » Thu Feb 17, 2011 4:38 pm

hasezwei wrote:speaking of resampling... i never really get the results other people do when resampling. probably i'm doing the wrong things/applying the wrong fx in between steps, to be honest i don't even know what to do.
i just create a nice gnarly sound without automations in my synth, beef that up even more with waveshapers and tubes and all that jazz, then bounce it. load it into a sampler, apply some different lowpass-filter automations, bounce all of them.
then i chop them up like a breakbeat, and after that... well i don't quite know what to do. i frequency-split the final bassline into 3 bands, but only to mix and compress those differently (i like to have the midrange a bit lower and heavily sidechain it to get some extra movement). but even after doing that, it's basically just a variation of the sound i initially created in massive (or anything else i'd use).

is there more to it? do the sounds really change *drastically* in between different resampling stages? in other words, is it a purely subtractive method or are there additive steps? and what exactly do you do after you cut it up for the first time? stick another automated filter on top of your automated filters?

i'd kinda like to see a step by step tutorial, not explaining how to actually resample and freqsplit (that's been covered to death, srsly) but more like an example signal/resampling chain from start to finish, to really illustrate what to do in between stages. it's probably time-consuming to do that but i'm sure it'd help a lot of people.
I get my bass sound as fat as possible. I try to have a 1 OSC act as a sub, so I dont have to mind the tuning of the bassline when resampling and adding a sub layer. I automate any parameter I hook up to my midi controller. (usng macros for more extreme results). LFO, phaser, feedback etc, they are all being automated and end up in one big recording. Drop that in a slicer and arrange your track. Mix that in splitted channels. Add moderate fx to each channel (lo,mi,hi)
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Re: New resampling technique

Post by thor_beatz » Mon Feb 28, 2011 2:42 am

Howdy,

So I've decided to split this up in 3 parts. Next part we will be using massive to create some fat bass sounds, 3rd will be about layering them.

In the first part I show how I granulize audio used in the example posted here before (or similair sounding anyway).

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Re: New resampling technique

Post by daft cunt » Mon Feb 28, 2011 5:41 am

Awesome stuff!
Thanks for sharing the knowledge and making the tutorials.
Can't wait for the next parts.

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Re: New resampling technique

Post by daft cunt » Mon Feb 28, 2011 5:54 am

Also, very useful blog! Thanks for that too!

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Re: New resampling technique

Post by djbmc » Mon Feb 28, 2011 8:55 am

wow, that bass is epic, gonna try that out man
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Re: New resampling technique

Post by tylerblue » Mon Feb 28, 2011 9:39 am

You are a gentleman, and a scholar. Thanks and looking forward to the next tutorials. :W:
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Re: New resampling technique

Post by thor_beatz » Mon Feb 28, 2011 11:26 am

Cheers guys! Stay tuned ;)
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Re: New resampling technique

Post by djbmc » Wed Mar 02, 2011 5:35 pm

i just listened to 'TJOK' on the same soundcloud page (i assume it's you?) mate how do you do that with ur basslines?!?!?! beg you do a more general tutorial for people (n00bs) like me!
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Re: New resampling technique

Post by thor_beatz » Wed Mar 02, 2011 7:46 pm

djbmc wrote:i just listened to 'TJOK' on the same soundcloud page (i assume it's you?) mate how do you do that with ur basslines?!?!?! beg you do a more general tutorial for people (n00bs) like me!
Polymasss is me and Maartez. In part 2 there will be more massive tuts. Also check out my tutorial section on http://durkkooistra.com
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Re: New resampling technique

Post by djbmc » Wed Mar 02, 2011 9:55 pm

cool, i don't use massive, i take it that type of sound isn't confined to just massive tho? although i'm aware of how versatile the whole performer/lfo modulation section is, and i'll check that link out
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Re: New resampling technique

Post by thor_beatz » Wed Mar 02, 2011 10:22 pm

By no means massive is the only way to achieve big bad bass. It is however the fastest way for me. It's mostly due to it's wavetables (which is something different than most synth have) and routing options combined with the drag n drop for exceptional modulation abilities.

In FL 3OSC, in ableton the operator, the list goes on and they are all capable of producing fat bass sounds.
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Re: New resampling technique

Post by hifi » Wed Mar 02, 2011 10:30 pm

edit: i know you hate me thor but sick WIP
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Re: New resampling technique

Post by thor_beatz » Fri Mar 04, 2011 5:26 pm

Just uploaded part 2

In this tutorial we take a look at a pre resample stage project and at the automations via maco controls in NI massive.

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Re: New resampling technique [tutorial update]

Post by thor_beatz » Wed Mar 23, 2011 6:12 am

Added the last part. Enjoy.

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