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kidshuffle · Post by **kidshuffle** » Tue Mar 29, 2011 4:39 pm

iirc, Richie August coined brostep in like...late 08? Because he was starting up his Brotown label

Words · Post by **Words** » Tue Mar 29, 2011 5:16 pm

pkay wrote:
wubstep wrote:Is brostep a hipster thing in the US?
not really

the hipsters into electronic music that are old enough to grow beards are into Washed Out, Neon Indian, Memory Tapes, etc and only listen to that because the nugaze bandwagon is full

blog house in 2008 -> chillwave in 2009 -> witchhouse in 2010 -> ??? in 2011

fate lays in the hands of the pitchfork gods

pkay · Post by **pkay** » Tue Mar 29, 2011 5:28 pm

Words wrote:
pkay wrote:
wubstep wrote:Is brostep a hipster thing in the US?
not really

the hipsters into electronic music that are old enough to grow beards are into Washed Out, Neon Indian, Memory Tapes, etc and only listen to that because the nugaze bandwagon is full
blog house in 2008 -> chillwave in 2009 -> witchhouse in 2010 -> ??? in 2011

fate lays in the hands of the pitchfork gods

did witchouse really catch on?

this year they seem hellbent on making The Weekend into stars and could see them trying to force an internet sub genre out of their sound.

Something R&B with EDM mixed together. R&E or something typical of pitchfork.

64hz · Post by **64hz** » Tue Mar 29, 2011 5:37 pm

i wish R&B stood for Rhythym and BASS so it could be used as an umbrella term to describe alot of what i listen to.

AllNightDayDream · Post by **AllNightDayDream** » Tue Mar 29, 2011 5:52 pm

pkay wrote:
hasezwei wrote:
pkay wrote:
wubstep wrote:Is brostep a hipster thing in the US?
not really

the hipsters into electronic music that are old enough to grow beards are into Washed Out, Neon Indian, Memory Tapes, etc and only listen to that because the nugaze bandwagon is full
dude nugaze is sooo 2009
i thought chillwave's the shit nowadays ? what's chillwave anyway?
chillwave is basically the artists I listed above and it's a terrible term imo

Embrace the chill, ride the wave

AllNightDayDream · Post by **AllNightDayDream** » Tue Mar 29, 2011 5:53 pm

Words wrote: blog house in 2008 -> chillwave in 2009 -> witchhouse in 2010 -> ??? in 2011

fate lays in the hands of the pitchfork gods

No truer words were said!

ahier · Post by **ahier** » Tue Mar 29, 2011 6:02 pm

wolf89 wrote:This annoys the fuck out of me. It's one of those situations where the people taking the piss clearly are as bad as the people they are taking the piss out of.

How do people have this image of dubstep anyway?

how do you know that they are as bad as the people they are taking the piss out of, when you only have these characters they are portraying to base it on? thats like saying steve coogan is an arrogant, misogynist imbecile based on watching mid morning matters

NickUndercover · Post by **NickUndercover** » Tue Mar 29, 2011 6:06 pm

honey-d wrote:James Blake is a hipster thing

Better be trollin there son.

wolf89 · Post by **wolf89** » Tue Mar 29, 2011 6:10 pm

ahier wrote:
wolf89 wrote:This annoys the fuck out of me. It's one of those situations where the people taking the piss clearly are as bad as the people they are taking the piss out of.

How do people have this image of dubstep anyway?

how do you know that they are as bad as the people they are taking the piss out of, when you only have these characters they are portraying to base it on? thats like saying steve coogan is an arrogant, misogynist imbecile based on watching mid morning matters

No because Coogan is intelligent with his humour and can create characters separate from himself.

These guys just come across as unfunny hipsters trying to take the piss out of hipsters in some painfully ironic way. It annoys me.

ahier · Post by **ahier** » Tue Mar 29, 2011 6:16 pm

wolf89 wrote:
ahier wrote:
wolf89 wrote:This annoys the fuck out of me. It's one of those situations where the people taking the piss clearly are as bad as the people they are taking the piss out of.

How do people have this image of dubstep anyway?

how do you know that they are as bad as the people they are taking the piss out of, when you only have these characters they are portraying to base it on? thats like saying steve coogan is an arrogant, misogynist imbecile based on watching mid morning matters
No because Coogan is intelligent with his humour and can create characters separate from himself.

These guys just come across as unfunny hipsters trying to take the piss out of hipsters in some painfully ironic way. It annoys me.

mmm i guess coogan is an extreme example, and granted this is of nowhere near the same comedy calibre, but still you have no idea whether these characters are separate from them or not so seems a bit unfair to assume that they are hipsters just because they are portraying hipsters. IMO they do it fairly accurately, albeit slightly exaggerated - which is surely the point of parody.

AllNightDayDream · Post by **AllNightDayDream** » Tue Mar 29, 2011 6:32 pm

Rönin wrote:
honey-d wrote:James Blake is a hipster thing

Better be trollin there son.

Really is though

NickUndercover · Post by **NickUndercover** » Tue Mar 29, 2011 6:34 pm

AllNightDayDream wrote:
Rönin wrote:
honey-d wrote:James Blake is a hipster thing

Better be trollin there son.
Really is though

He makes amazing tunes and that's all there is to it really, if he is a hipster thing then Distance's falling is hipster too ?

hasezwei · Post by **hasezwei** » Tue Mar 29, 2011 6:35 pm

pkay wrote:
Words wrote:
pkay wrote:
wubstep wrote:Is brostep a hipster thing in the US?
not really

the hipsters into electronic music that are old enough to grow beards are into Washed Out, Neon Indian, Memory Tapes, etc and only listen to that because the nugaze bandwagon is full
blog house in 2008 -> chillwave in 2009 -> witchhouse in 2010 -> ??? in 2011

fate lays in the hands of the pitchfork gods
did witchouse really catch on?

this year they seem hellbent on making The Weekend into stars and could see them trying to force an internet sub genre out of their sound.

Something R&B with EDM mixed together. R&E or something typical of pitchfork.

witchhouse, like aquacrunk, is another example of music journalists not understanding that you write about existing scenes, not make up a funny term and group some artists together.

and yeah they're going crazy over people using r&b samples like it's the dawn of a new genre or something

hasezwei · Post by **hasezwei** » Tue Mar 29, 2011 6:36 pm

Rönin wrote: if he is a hipster thing then Distance's falling is hipster too ?

no, that's pop

collige · Post by **collige** » Tue Mar 29, 2011 6:37 pm

Rönin wrote:
AllNightDayDream wrote:
Rönin wrote:
honey-d wrote:James Blake is a hipster thing

Better be trollin there son.
Really is though

He makes amazing tunes and that's all there is to it really, if he is a hipster thing then Distance's falling is hipster too ?

He does make good music, but he really is hipster. From what I've seen the most "hipster" artists are Blake, Burial, and Mount Kimbie. Case in point:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-dubstep

NickUndercover · Post by **NickUndercover** » Tue Mar 29, 2011 6:40 pm

We might not have the same definition for hipster... But let's leave it to this

flyingointment · Post by **flyingointment** » Tue Mar 29, 2011 6:40 pm

I think the thing with James Blake is that he's more of a singer/songwriter now than the siq producer his fans (including myself) grew to luv. I wanna hear more shit like the Stop What You're Doing remix and less shit like the Wilhelm Scream.

Which could be seen as selling out or pandering to indiefaigs, but I remember reading in an interview or something that he planned to come out with and mainly focus on his straight up organic music eventually, anyway. So it's not like it's something he has been disingenuous about.

AllNightDayDream · Post by **AllNightDayDream** » Tue Mar 29, 2011 6:44 pm

Rönin wrote:
AllNightDayDream wrote:
Rönin wrote:
honey-d wrote:James Blake is a hipster thing

Better be trollin there son.
Really is though

He makes amazing tunes and that's all there is to it really, if he is a hipster thing then Distance's falling is hipster too ?

I'm not saying he is hipster, he's just popular among hipsters. Not a bad thing, just a trend I notice.

pkay · Post by **pkay** » Tue Mar 29, 2011 6:49 pm

these days I'm pretty skeptical of anyone with a beard, glasses, or anyone wearing slim fit jeans. Beards itch, contacts are far superior, and no one can honestly say slim fit jeans are comfortable.

AllNightDayDream · Post by **AllNightDayDream** » Tue Mar 29, 2011 6:50 pm

pkay wrote:these days I'm pretty skeptical of anyone with a beard, glasses, or anyone wearing slim fit jeans. Beards itch, contacts are far superior, and no one can honestly say slim fit jeans are comfortable.

Slim fit jeans are comfortable. It's like someone is hugging my balls 24/7

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