Re: Is there a brostep of dnb?
Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 6:20 pm
Just clocked this... Yeah, it's Jump Up / Clownstep / Wobble you're after, think Clippz - CocoaWildcard wrote:A spinoff were almost everyone but the kids hate?
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Re: Is there a brostep of dnb?
Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 6:48 pm
This is completely not the equivalent at allGenevieve wrote:As far as unmemorable by the numbers stuff goes, most standard dancefloor dnb is pretty much brostep.
As far as harsh brutal noise and simple rhythms goes:
I suppose this is kinda a brostep equivalent? It's good stuff, though. I'm not into what people call 'brostep', but I love the harsher side of drum & bass.
Re: Is there a brostep of dnb?
Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 6:51 pm
deficit wrote:We call it Jump Up 'round these parts.
However, my interpretation of 'Brostep' was heavy/industrial/relentless/heavyweight business. A DNB equivalent might be Corrupt Souls / Raiden / Tech Itch / Current Value / Limewax, we tend to call this stuff 'Tech', but again, this is a catch all term that covers a lot of ground and there's a big difference between say Current Value and Corrupt Souls.
Eitherway, you're probably looking for Jump Up/Clownstep or Tech rather than Liquid or Autonomic.
Techstep =/= Skullstep
Techstep was dark bits but was more rolling, far more danceable tunes. The absolute beauty of techstep in 98-02 was that even though it was darker sounding, it still followed the structure of where drum and bass was at the time. You could easily work a set from one end of the spectrum to the other within an hour set and it'd roll the entire time. Now shit is so polarized it doesn't fit together. You aren't going to be able to bridge shit as easily so within that the crowds got polarized as well.
Techstep
Skullstep started moving away from the neuro/techy vibe and started throwing back to breaks/drum samples (early cylon, hardware, tech itch, XXX, Biotic, etc are all blatant influences). Skullstep is/was blatantly far less rolling... brought back in overprocessed drum samples, james brown grunts, and reece overkill. Far more influence from breakcore than anything offered in tech step.
Skullstep
Re: Is there a brostep of dnb?
Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 6:55 pm
pkay wrote:
Skullstep
Re: Is there a brostep of dnb?
Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 6:56 pm
as far as what is equal to brostep... it was right about when Breakbeat Kaos came out, got corny as fuck, Distorted Minds, Twisted Individual, Clipz, Baron, all that dumb bullshit.
As far as Hazard.... he proved himself long before joining true playaz & ganja. Put out insane amounts of bangers. We just like to remember old hazard.
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As far as Hazard.... he proved himself long before joining true playaz & ganja. Put out insane amounts of bangers. We just like to remember old hazard.
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Re: Is there a brostep of dnb?
Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 6:59 pm
Liam92 wrote:pkay wrote:
Skullstep
much like the brostep term it was a joke that stuck. I guess its similar to brostep in that manner only. You can check DOA and see the lol debates on the term skullstep.
Re: Is there a brostep of dnb?
Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 7:45 pm
what bored me to tears about "techstep" was all the creativity and thought behind the percussion was replaced with the most simple of beats... this is when i stooped listening to "dnb"... every track had the same drum pattern and really similar drop structures. the cookie cutter years had begun. the era of compartmentalized "dnb"... techstep, liquid, etc, yawn...
Re: Is there a brostep of dnb?
Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 7:49 pm
this! altho you have some absolute dons who really made fucking sick ass drum patternsfractal wrote:what bored me to tears about "techstep" was all the creativity and thought behind the percussion was replaced with the most simple of beats... this is when i stooped listening to "dnb"... every track had the same drum pattern and really similar drop structures. the cookie cutter years had begun. the era of compartmentalized "dnb"... techstep, liquid, etc, yawn...
Re: Is there a brostep of dnb?
Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 7:50 pm
drum n bass is the brostep version of jungle
Re: Is there a brostep of dnb?
Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 8:09 pm
but we were coming out of heavy heavy heavy sample oriented jungle for the past 5 or 6 years. It was honestly overkill. In 1998 drum and bass was dying because of the amen. Jump up, in moderation, was a saviour. The problem was it was too easy and formulaic, but it was a much needed change. Techstep was the anti-jump up. Yeah beat was 2 step and easy but the rest of the tune was innovation beyond anything we had seen before.fractal wrote:what bored me to tears about "techstep" was all the creativity and thought behind the percussion was replaced with the most simple of beats... this is when i stooped listening to "dnb"... every track had the same drum pattern and really similar drop structures. the cookie cutter years had begun. the era of compartmentalized "dnb"... techstep, liquid, etc, yawn...
There was still tons of breaks oriented/sample oriented dnb. Its why Dylan, Facs, Bkey, Loxy, Fon, Ink, etc were saviours and years ahead of their time.
Also tech itch and dom... who are honestly the two greatest beat editors ever. By a mile. Like not even close. Came to prominence in the techstep area.
Actually come to think of it some of the beats dom engineered likely account for thousands of tunes if not tens of thousands now. Some of the breaks he did are dance music standards now
Re: Is there a brostep of dnb?
Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 12:00 am
damnit you beat me to itPhyalow wrote:Pendulum.
Re: Is there a brostep of dnb?
Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 12:20 am
@pkay- I hear you, and agree. But I just grew so tired of that beat so quickly... When groups like pendulum and bad company started to get big, I knew that my love affair with dnb was over...
Re: Is there a brostep of dnb?
Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 12:58 am
if pendulum was number 1 in dnb who would be number 2
Re: Is there a brostep of dnb?
Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 2:56 am
Phyalow wrote:Pendulum.
Re: Is there a brostep of dnb?
Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 2:56 am
Phyalow wrote:Pendulum.
Re: Is there a brostep of dnb?
Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 6:20 am
Chase and StatusMapledelux wrote:if pendulum was number 1 in dnb who would be number 2
Re: Is there a brostep of dnb?
Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 3:04 pm
Rönin wrote:Mr Happy aka the pinacle of dnb
Re: Is there a brostep of dnb?
Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 3:44 pm
basically to a lot of dnb heads 'jump up' is basically the same as what 'brostep' is around here.
Re: Is there a brostep of dnb?
Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 5:20 pm
And interestingly, while many would defend the earlier days of brostep a lot of dnb heads would defend the earlier days of jump up.....scattybeanhead wrote:basically to a lot of dnb heads 'jump up' is basically the same as what 'brostep' is around here.
Re: Is there a brostep of dnb?
Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 5:30 pm
jump up is superior to brostep in all possible ways because you can actually dance to it.