Effects making my synths sound worse?

[Jacob15728]

Anyways, I do like listening to the deep shit. I just listened to Burial's latest album last night and really enjoyed it, and I also like stuff like Benga, Kryptic Minds, all that good stuff. I just prefer to produce brostep because it seems to have a more technical side to it with all the interesting bass modulations, and I enjoy the aggressive sound because I used to be really into metal. It's popularity is a bonus too, since getting into dubstep was the first time I actually liked music that is popular!

Bru mutha fuckin ha ha har haripidy harpo,

Alright, reproduce some goth trad stuff if you think its not technical.
Bro step is the least technical thing to produce, its got not no soul and no aim.

I don't know what goth trad stuff is but I can tell you right now that as far as complex synth programming goes, producers like Skrillex, Shekel, Diesel or Cyberoptix are at the forefront of all electronic music along with Tipper, Shpongle and the like. A lot of brostep is more simplistic, like Datsik or Rusko's newer stuff but a lot of it is insanely complex.

Now, if you're gonna talk about the musical/composition side, which I think you are (referring to soul and aim), then you're right that a lot of the deeper stuff is more musical than most brostep, but you can't make sweeping generalizations like that.

[Jacob15728]

[double post]

[oprs]

nah its really not.
all it is running your sound through a granulizer or something to that affect.

not really that hard.

[3za]

I don't know what goth trad stuff is but I can tell you right now that as far as complex synth programming goes, producers like Skrillex, Shekel, Diesel or Cyberoptix are at the forefront of all electronic music along with Tipper, Shpongle and the like. A lot of brostep is more simplistic, like Datsik or Rusko's newer stuff but a lot of it is insanely complex.

Oi kid, go listen to some proper IDM, like Deadmau5 FFS.

[Ldizzy]

Anyways, I do like listening to the deep shit. I just listened to Burial's latest album last night and really enjoyed it, and I also like stuff like Benga, Kryptic Minds, all that good stuff. I just prefer to produce brostep because it seems to have a more technical side to it with all the interesting bass modulations, and I enjoy the aggressive sound because I used to be really into metal. It's popularity is a bonus too, since getting into dubstep was the first time I actually liked music that is popular!

Bru mutha fuckin ha ha har haripidy harpo,

Alright, reproduce some goth trad stuff if you think its not technical.
Bro step is the least technical thing to produce, its got not no soul and no aim.

I don't know what goth trad stuff is but I can tell you right now that as far as complex synth programming goes, producers like Skrillex, Shekel, Diesel or Cyberoptix are at the forefront of all electronic music along with Tipper, Shpongle and the like. A lot of brostep is more simplistic, like Datsik or Rusko's newer stuff but a lot of it is insanely complex.

Now, if you're gonna talk about the musical/composition side, which I think you are (referring to soul and aim), then you're right that a lot of the deeper stuff is more musical than most brostep, but you can't make sweeping generalizations like that.

i really think you are the one making assumptions.

[Jacob15728]

Anyways, I do like listening to the deep shit. I just listened to Burial's latest album last night and really enjoyed it, and I also like stuff like Benga, Kryptic Minds, all that good stuff. I just prefer to produce brostep because it seems to have a more technical side to it with all the interesting bass modulations, and I enjoy the aggressive sound because I used to be really into metal. It's popularity is a bonus too, since getting into dubstep was the first time I actually liked music that is popular!

Bru mutha fuckin ha ha har haripidy harpo,

Alright, reproduce some goth trad stuff if you think its not technical.
Bro step is the least technical thing to produce, its got not no soul and no aim.

I don't know what goth trad stuff is but I can tell you right now that as far as complex synth programming goes, producers like Skrillex, Shekel, Diesel or Cyberoptix are at the forefront of all electronic music along with Tipper, Shpongle and the like. A lot of brostep is more simplistic, like Datsik or Rusko's newer stuff but a lot of it is insanely complex.

Now, if you're gonna talk about the musical/composition side, which I think you are (referring to soul and aim), then you're right that a lot of the deeper stuff is more musical than most brostep, but you can't make sweeping generalizations like that.

i really think you are the one making assumptions.

I didn't make a single assumption in my post. All I said was: 1. some brostep is extremely complex 2. some proper dubstep is more musical than brostep, but not necessarily all of it

How is that making assumptions?

Oi kid, go listen to some proper IDM, like Deadmau5 FFS.

Why do I feel like everyone is trolling/attacking me here? What the hell does Deadmau5 have to do with this?

[Ricky_Spanish]

Anyways, I do like listening to the deep shit. I just listened to Burial's latest album last night and really enjoyed it, and I also like stuff like Benga, Kryptic Minds, all that good stuff. I just prefer to produce brostep because it seems to have a more technical side to it with all the interesting bass modulations, and I enjoy the aggressive sound because I used to be really into metal. It's popularity is a bonus too, since getting into dubstep was the first time I actually liked music that is popular!

Bru mutha fuckin ha ha har haripidy harpo,

Alright, reproduce some goth trad stuff if you think its not technical.
Bro step is the least technical thing to produce, its got not no soul and no aim.

I disagree. I could transcribe midi and audio any trance track in a few hours, but something like Datsik's - Gecko would take me fking ages.

[narcissus]

crazy dirty insane aggressive bass got too easy for me about a year ago. i can make bass as dirty as sin in 5 minutes... creating something like psychadelic trance requires 10x as much time and effort, as well as subtlety and finesse. and actually challenges me..

it's all basically the same thing tho. do whatever is fresh to you. i think i may go back to dubstep with my new vibes someday soon, when i actually feel I can use it to say something.

[narcissus]

Anyways, I do like listening to the deep shit. I just listened to Burial's latest album last night and really enjoyed it, and I also like stuff like Benga, Kryptic Minds, all that good stuff. I just prefer to produce brostep because it seems to have a more technical side to it with all the interesting bass modulations, and I enjoy the aggressive sound because I used to be really into metal. It's popularity is a bonus too, since getting into dubstep was the first time I actually liked music that is popular!

Bru mutha fuckin ha ha har haripidy harpo,

Alright, reproduce some goth trad stuff if you think its not technical.
Bro step is the least technical thing to produce, its got not no soul and no aim.

I disagree. I could transcribe midi and audio any trance track in a few hours, but something like Datsik's - Gecko would take me fking ages.

i dare you to try and make this in a few hours -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQne95aLTo4

[3za]

I disagree. I could transcribe midi and audio any trance track in a few hours, but something like Datsik's - Gecko would take me fking ages.

Oi kid, go listen to some proper IDM, like Tiesto FFS.

[Jacob15728]

I disagree. I could transcribe midi and audio any trance track in a few hours, but something like Datsik's - Gecko would take me fking ages.

Oi kid, go listen to some proper IDM, like Tiesto FFS.

I think that's enough from you.

[3za]

I think that's enough from you.

Oi kid, go listen to some proper IDM, like Basshunter FFS.

[amphibian]

seems to have a more technical side to it with all the interesting bass modulations

Have a listen to guys like Biome then tell me it's not technical The deeper side is definitely getting more into this sound experimentation and I think is why it's starting to gain more traction again.

[Jacob15728]

seems to have a more technical side to it with all the interesting bass modulations

Have a listen to guys like Biome then tell me it's not technical The deeper side is definitely getting more into this sound experimentation and I think is why it's starting to gain more traction again.

Just listening to some Biome, it's actually really good! Thanks for the recommendation. The thing is, Biome is using a lot of midrange and high range sounds and wobbles. I wouldn't call it brostep, but it's definitely borrowing those elements. There's lots of brostep with that complex, technical feel and most proper dubstep is all in the sub bass, so you can't really do modulations with that. But yeah, there definitely is non-brostep that's very complex. Never said there wasn't...

[Ricky_Spanish]

moved.

[Ricky_Spanish]

Anyways, I do like listening to the deep shit. I just listened to Burial's latest album last night and really enjoyed it, and I also like stuff like Benga, Kryptic Minds, all that good stuff. I just prefer to produce brostep because it seems to have a more technical side to it with all the interesting bass modulations, and I enjoy the aggressive sound because I used to be really into metal. It's popularity is a bonus too, since getting into dubstep was the first time I actually liked music that is popular!

Bru mutha fuckin ha ha har haripidy harpo,

Alright, reproduce some goth trad stuff if you think its not technical.
Bro step is the least technical thing to produce, its got not no soul and no aim.

I disagree. I could transcribe midi and audio any trance track in a few hours, but something like Datsik's - Gecko would take me fking ages.

i dare you to try and make this in a few hours -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQne95aLTo4

yeah I could that. But the eastern wind instrument is done by a session muso i think, but everything else is doable. I've done like 2-300 transcribed trance, classical, film score, ambient and hardcore tracks over about 10 years.

If you really want, I will transcribe the midi and send it to you.

[Ricky_Spanish]

I disagree. I could transcribe midi and audio any trance track in a few hours, but something like Datsik's - Gecko would take me fking ages.

Oi kid, go listen to some proper IDM, like Tiesto FFS.

So what does that mean exactly? Why do you think you're the 'World premier AUTHORITY' on what constitutes the best of any particular genre.
(no need to answer, it's a rhetorical question, you are'nt)

If you think brostep is simple then you are kidding yourself, or maybe your own efforts at brostep are pathetic, so you hate it for that reason. whatever, it doesn't matter.

Trance is basic and easy? or just Tiesto. Since you mention Tiesto, how about you do a remix of 'pirates of the caribbean' (Hans Zimmer, Klaus Badelt score), the melody is 64 bars long btw. And by 'remix' I mean a recreation, not just chopping up audio.

So how about a critique of these:

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<iframe src="/forum/video.php?url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98C4HfV17Tc" frameborder="0" style="overflow:hidden; height:auto; max-width:540px"></iframe>

<iframe src="/forum/video.php?url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUBsZRNHi-g&feature=related" frameborder="0" style="overflow:hidden; height:auto; max-width:540px"></iframe>

Like how they are so simple and uninteresting compared to whatever you think is the pinnacle.

[amphibian]

dunno why you're asking him to validate those tunes. 3za has a superiority complex at times, I wouldn't take it personally

[Jacob15728]

3za is obviously trolling, or he's just retarded enough to think that Tiesto and Deadmau5 are IDM...

[jrisreal]

what is idm? Like how is it different from edm? I have done multiple freaking google searches in the past few months but the most information I ever came upon was what I.D.M. stands for :/