Identity, aesthetics, culture and history about dubstep 1&2

[Dub_freak]

tl;dr

[extremesociety]

We're more bro'd out because the exposure/understanding of most americans 18-25 is that the electro wobble and anthemic synth-pop halfstep is what dubstep is. Whereas in UK, people know about all the diverse bass music pouring into the scene at any given time. in USA that good shit is basically nonexistent aside from a small number of heads /deadhorse

It's so true. When I first heard of "Dubstep", as an American, I was pointed to BassNectar. It took me tons of personal searching to find the history of the genre and graduate to real Dubstep (Benga, Mala, Coki, Skream, et al.), and even longer to find the vinyl.

Dubstep is sub-bass and deep, and Americans don't like it (maybe they're afraid it makes them feel too much?).

[cyrusfx]

wow, very extensive and thorough, to say the least.. are you gonna host this on a page somewhere (or have someone host it for you)? I'd like to reference it in the future if you have it altogether somewhere.

[Shum]

Sorry to be a knob but could one of our kind mods merge this and the thread with the first half of the article together just for convenience.

inb4 "stop being a lazy prick Shum", etc.

[wobbles]

Stop being a lazy prick shum

[joeki]

wow, very extensive and thorough, to say the least.. are you gonna host this on a page somewhere (or have someone host it for you)? I'd like to reference it in the future if you have it altogether somewhere.

I advise you to read it before you say this is thorough....and I certainly wouldn't use it as a reference...the first part is full of blatant mistakes and "personal opinions" through hasty judgement and half assed research, covered by the additions of reference's here and there.

I applaud the effort, not the content (or a big part of it any way...)

[-[2]DAY_-]

Americans don't like [dubstep]

while its a sweeping statement, it's more or less the sad truth.

[leyenda]

'Techno house'??? What in the name of god is Techno House? Way to disrespect two MAJOR history shaping genres in one breathe.

Probably meant Tech house.

I think we both know OP has never heard a Tech House song is his life. In his head what he is thinking is probably Electro House.

To OP: I think the fact English does not appear to be your first language probably does not help in terms of getting your point across. Does feel however that the first half of this part of the paper is largely irrelevant. I'm not saying black immigrants were greeted with open arms into the UK but what relevance does this have to the history of dubstep? Who cares how many black/asian people were in the UK in 1939 in regards to this genre? And statements like:

Suffering from a racist society, the black population of Britain in the 1940s and 1950s had to get used to be the ones doing the hard jobs while others could enjoy themselves. When it came to entertainment blacks would go to dance and find white women to danced with

seem to be designed purely to get a rise out of people and the second sentence in particular is a huge generalisation and implies there is something wrong with black women so black men had to seek out white women.

At least you seem to have done your homework with regards to major players within the early dubstep scene and the various stylistic offshoots from this scene. Seen far worse interpretations of where dubstep comes from.

[fractal]

Sorry to be a knob but could one of our kind mods merge this and the thread with the first half of the article together just for convenience.

inb4 "stop being a lazy prick Shum", etc.

good idea shum!

[cyrusfx]

wow, very extensive and thorough, to say the least.. are you gonna host this on a page somewhere (or have someone host it for you)? I'd like to reference it in the future if you have it altogether somewhere.

I advise you to read it before you say this is thorough....and I certainly wouldn't use it as a reference...the first part is full of blatant mistakes and "personal opinions" through hasty judgement and half assed research, covered by the additions of reference's here and there.

I applaud the effort, not the content (or a big part of it any way...)

I did, thanks. I was more specifically referring to the second part, but thanks for just assuming I'm lazy.

[joeki]

thanks for pointing out that I shouldn't assume things. I'm trying to be a dick, but I can't deny that I am a serious dick.
The second part is better though...