Reason 4

abZ · Post by **abZ** » Wed Jun 27, 2007 11:08 am

dubsteppa wrote:i just watch the u tube vid n the new synth sounds just as dull as the old ones (but every one will use it duue to it have more flashing lights)i suggest to every one to get ableton and some good vsti's

Your going base your decision off of some preset patches and youtube audio? heh.

I can't imagine using ableton in the studio. Great for making a mix though.

dubsteppa · Post by **dubsteppa** » Thu Jun 28, 2007 8:45 am

how can u not love the sequencer in albleton its sexyer then your mother

substepa · Post by **substepa** » Tue Jul 03, 2007 3:21 am

I think reason uses alot of CPU and doesnt give out a clear sound, which makes no sense. Dont get me wrong a love reason from day, but there is numerous improvements that proppellerhead could make to this piece of software. The vst support would be well handy tho. I use reason 3, and that alone kills off my CPU when I only use 2 combinators in a track, I dont even wanna think what reason 4 would doing to my computer, properly explode or sumfing.

twatty vagitis · Post by **twatty vagitis** » Tue Jul 03, 2007 3:31 am

not being sarcastic at all, but you need to reformat your PC or something, because reason is actually known as 1 of the most CPU friendly audio programs around. I can have anything up to 15 combinaters each with countless synths/samplers/fx going on and barely hit halfway on the meter, and my PC aint particularly powerful.

As for the sound, its what you make of it, ppl like to compare it to vsts, but when you open a vst an load a patch and get a full sound, that full sound has not only been provided by the Osc and the filters, theres fx going on there too, usually chorus/delay shit like that, with reason you have to put them in urself, it is entirely possible to get a high quality sounding bassline/lead/pad out of the subtractor/malstrom, u just need to add the correct fx/eq an shit. The ppl usin the beta are sayin that THOR is soundin big which is great news, and the new seq looks amazing, I cant wait for it to be released personally

phuboy · Post by **phuboy** » Sat Jul 07, 2007 12:03 am

I totally love Reason 3, so i'm well excited bout V.4.

People forget that Reason doesn't do VST's because it essentially emulation of hardware with a sequencer tagged on. Adding VST to it would be like plugging one directly into your mixer. Maybe they could release some new modules every now and then...

Although, some kind of audio (Wav, MP3, AIF) manipulation would be handy... Reason 3 doesn't rewire to well with Cubase.

As to the CPU comment, my Laptop (1Gb ram 2GHz Pentium M) handles Reason better than anything else. Rarely does the CPU monitor go near 35% with about 15 combinators each with their own effects etc.

djshiva · Post by **djshiva** » Mon Jul 09, 2007 6:12 am

Substepa wrote:I think reason uses alot of CPU and doesnt give out a clear sound, which makes no sense. Dont get me wrong a love reason from day, but there is numerous improvements that proppellerhead could make to this piece of software. The vst support would be well handy tho. I use reason 3, and that alone kills off my CPU when I only use 2 combinators in a track, I dont even wanna think what reason 4 would doing to my computer, properly explode or sumfing.

http://www.musicxp.net/

if reason is killing your CPU, then you have not done what needs to be done with your computer. reason is one of the most cpu friendly music progs around.

producerpack · Post by **producerpack** » Wed Jul 11, 2007 12:22 pm

Why didnt they add audio to it!! ;-((

People been talking about it for years, why havent they listened??

Moan, Moan, Moan!!!!!

twatty vagitis · Post by **twatty vagitis** » Wed Jul 11, 2007 4:17 pm

audio in, wiv some kind of recorder wouldnt work that well in reason imo, i can be done, but prob best it isnt. Personally I think Recycle should be updated into a fully fledged wave editor which will then allow it to receive audo etc wivout ruining reason

jason burns · Post by **jason burns** » Mon Jul 16, 2007 8:50 pm

twatty vagitis wrote:not being sarcastic at all, but you need to reformat your PC or something, because reason is actually known as 1 of the most CPU friendly audio programs around. I can have anything up to 15 combinaters each with countless synths/samplers/fx going on and barely hit halfway on the meter, and my PC aint particularly powerful.

aggreed. logic pro smashes my mac everytime i use more than a few plugins. but i could load tons of shit onto reason and no problem. i always assumed it's because reason sounds like a toy in comparison to what i get out of logic synths. so i use both. each for there strengths.

synthektik · Post by **synthektik** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 1:40 pm

gotc wrote:
J_J wrote: "Another thing I like about the program is that it's very clean and it sounds massive when played live in a big venue. It's just so crystal clean. We would never have been able to do that with all the analog stuff. It would be all messed up", says Tom Hamilton".
I used reason in the past and I still rewire Redrum but if there's one thing Reason doesn't have it's a crystal clear sound

+ using Reason for live sets sounds mighty doubtful too

I agree!!!! wire it thru cubase (i've got SX) and actually hear what their hi hat samples actually sound like! ...hi-hats no less rather than compressed high-end thuds. it's always been just too muddy.

not sure quite how to play a live set thru reason. Hence everyone I can think of uses Ableton.

HAVE THEY MADE THE INTERFACE BETTER YET !!!???

neveready · Post by **neveready** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 9:44 pm

really looking forward on getting my hands on this baby! looks good, sounds good.. been happy with reason so far, ofcourse there are few things that could be better etc.. but it fits my "skills" on making music quite perfectly right now..

hope to get the 4.0 sometime!

whineo · Post by **whineo** » Thu Jul 19, 2007 11:51 am

I used reason 2.5 for years but stopped because I wanted to use Plugins

Just started using reason again bouncing everything into live , logic etc..
Its a great sketch pad for making beats and putting ideas down

If reason had plugin capability then it wouldnt be reason
I see it as more of a plugin itself to be honest.
I used to diss reason when I stopped using saying that it didnt process the sound properly and you could get the crispness of sound that you get in other DAWs. This was all in complete ignorance and utter bollocks

roqqert · Post by **roqqert** » Thu Jul 19, 2007 3:17 pm

i think ppl who hate reason cant work with it cause the most ppl only use presets of plug's.... in reason you can use refills but i like to make my OWN synth(eses)

and yeah with that device thing in reason 4.0 .... that would be heaven i think

i hope so

crytek · Post by **crytek** » Thu Jul 19, 2007 7:26 pm

Reason is a good prog. A friend introduced it to me back when v.2 was out. Hated it at first, but have grown to love it. I'm sure this version will be sick. Also, call me wierd, but I think it's better that a prog like Reason dosen't handle vst's. Makes you work harder to achive the sound you are after, and believe me, I've heard a lot of tunes done in reason, especially ekaj. Shit is top notch. Just let's you know it's the person who is using the tools is the one who is to blame, not the tools themselves.

twatty vagitis · Post by **twatty vagitis** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 12:16 am

jus got hold of reason 4 beta2.

apart from the 60min limit and the fact u cant save fuk all. OMFG its HEAVY

THOR sounds fukin amazing, I use albino 3 and z3ta quite regularly and truss me THOR is at least equally as good if not better. 6 osc types, 4 filter types, u can route 4 channels of audio thru it, fukin lovin it. the groove thing is very kool, great for ukg, I dont use arps in general but the arp thats in reason 4 can also be used to trgger other instruemtns using CVs much like the matrix so thats gonna be intresting. Also the sequencer is a work of art, vector automation anyone?? i know, i know, its about fukin time, but hey at least they done it at last

abZ · Post by **abZ** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 7:39 pm

Whineo wrote: I used to diss reason when I stopped using saying that it didnt process the sound properly and you could get the crispness of sound that you get in other DAWs. This was all in complete ignorance and utter bollocks

Wow I have never seen anyone go back on that. I think it's a load of shit too. It isn't perfect but I have heard some really fantastic sounding tunes come out of Reason. Whatever.

Defo can't wait for 4. That Thor will be instantly used on very track. The thing even had inputs. I'm not sure how I have been living without it all these years.

future one · Post by **future one** » Tue Jul 24, 2007 11:10 pm

I'm definatly going to buy it when it comes out.

roqqert · Post by **roqqert** » Wed Jul 25, 2007 8:50 am

I'm definatly going to download it when it comes out.

dubco · Post by **dubco** » Fri Mar 06, 2009 1:06 am

Substepa wrote:I think reason uses alot of CPU and doesnt give out a clear sound, which makes no sense. Dont get me wrong a love reason from day, but there is numerous improvements that proppellerhead could make to this piece of software. The vst support would be well handy tho. I use reason 3, and that alone kills off my CPU when I only use 2 combinators in a track, I dont even wanna think what reason 4 would doing to my computer, properly explode or sumfing.

do yourself a big favor, go to the store and return fl studio, and go out and get yourself a mac. live as well and reason work without an issue. i always had a difficult time with windows machines not having enough working memory to ever truly finish a song i was working on. i have a year old macbook pro and can say that without a doubt this should have been my first purchase. im no representative just one happy customer learning how to make dubstep tracks.... and yes reason 4 will cause your computer to implode.

abZ · Post by **abZ** » Fri Mar 06, 2009 3:42 am

abZ wrote:
dubsteppa wrote:i just watch the u tube vid n the new synth sounds just as dull as the old ones (but every one will use it duue to it have more flashing lights)i suggest to every one to get ableton and some good vsti's
Your going base your decision off of some preset patches and youtube audio? heh.

I can't imagine using ableton in the studio. Great for making a mix though.

WOW. Old thread LOL. I now use Ableton exclusively.

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