RickyRicardo wrote:Echo Wanderer wrote:
I don't think the US is ready for a woman president.It sounds good in theory,but women are too emotional and a lot of times crack under pressure.They take to thier own agendas(ie:Hillary)more than look into the needs of the many.But where a black president might have to struggle with deep rooted,personal,race issues(mainly with whites,but on some levels,hispanics as well),a female president would most likely take a more direct,immediate approach,viewing men as the lesser race,thus giving women "superiority rights".Race issues only go back so far,man hating goes back to the dawn of time.
Men are pigs,but we don't deserve to die.
This has gotta be about the most blatantly sexist thing I've read on this board in a long ass time.
I'm no Hillary fan myself, but to suggest that she'd be a bad president b/c "women are too emotional and a lot of times crack under pressure" is a fucking ridiculous assertion and ignores the scores of previous female presidents, PM's, queens, and empresses who have directly countered this notion throughout history.
I am actually not surprised you chimed in with a "face value" interpretation on this.AND YOU OBVIOUSLY MISSED THE BLATANT SARCASM.Almost every political OPINION I have ever expressed on this board you have called me out as something somewhat ignorant,uninformed,right,racist,and now sexist.First off,and with all due respect sir,I am entitled to an opinion.An opinion that I base on personal experience and broad observation.Normally,I just let it go.This is the first time I am actually responding back,because(and I will not say this as factual),you seem at times to contradict just to contradict.I do not know you,nor do I claim to,and I mostly agree with the myriad political opinions you express on this forum.But you do not know me enough to call me racist,sexist,classist,or anything of that ilk.I am a lot more informed than you think.
So before you call me out as something that I disagree with,let me give you a little background about myself:
I am the only boy raised by a single mother who worked her ass off working three jobs to provide for three children.My mother,a strong woman who fought against Vietnam in the '60s,carried me around(not my sisters,mind you) during NOW and ERA marches in the '70s,raised me to love all peoples,regardless of race,religion/spirtuality,gender,sexual orientation,political leaning,or economical status.I respect my mother for providing me with an education that most children will never have the opportunity to recieve,even via "higher education".Oh...and she is white.
Additionally,I am of mixed race.I have seen the full spectrum of racism.I have been jumped by every race out there,because I am not "black enough" or "white enough",or not not of a certain race.Many think I am hispanic,yet I have none in my racial background,which has especially caused me problems in SoCal,where blacks and hispanics don't really get along(I was once jumped by a girl I was dating's
familia because apparently when I told her I had no latin in me she felt somewhat "betrayed".It's kind of a no-no in traditional Mexican families here to date outside
la raza).
I was also adopted.My father's family originates from Sonora,Mexico,while my mother's side is primarily blue-blood English.Myself?Black,Irish,Sioux.Historically,I should have a lot to be pissed off about considering all my peoples were enslaved(again SARCASM).In fact,my mother made it a point to push the issue that I learn about all of these cultures and races because it's who I am.To explore my cultural background,not just "pick a side" as so many mixed kids do.
(Should add here that I don't need to hear the whole "eveyone is mixed/no one is truly racially pure" speech,because I already know this.)
Now,on the sexism thing.Most of my friends are women.My profession is dominated by women.In fact,I prefer to date women who are independent,strong,cerebral thinkers.I believe with great conviction in most feminist ideals and have,in fact,been active in many of the feminist causes(even been arrested for it!).I see women in positions of power on a daily basis.I don't think I have had a male boss in years.And I have given unrelenting respect to evey single female I have ever met.I'm sorry,but that's how I was raised and how I believe it should be.I have had PLENTY of time to observe how women interact with men and each other.As I said,I had to live in it for most of my life,including my family(in which even my extended one is mostly women and still adding),female roommates,girlfriends,best friends,long-term clients,co-workers,and buisness partners.And yes,as it is common in American society,most women are taught not to suppress emotion.Yes,I do agree with you about the female presidents,queens,and other high ranking officials who look at matters and handle them unbiased.But they are from different cultures,countries,and eras.And yes,there are women in this country now that I feel would be more qualified than Hillary as president.Even,dare I say...
Condi.
But I have also said that I don't think America is ready for a black president either.Does that make me a rascist?I think not,but you have the right to your opinion on that as well.Sizzla's post could be taken as sexist too,but I don't see you jumping down his throat and calling him out as such.Did you even note the "

" at the bottom of my post?I have not read one single response,nor recieved a single pm from any of the women on this forum regarding this,but you pulled an attack on this immediately.It's almost like the abortion issue,you know,where most of the people and lawmakers against it are men,yet they cannot physically have children due to thier gender and all,but are so outspoken about it nonetheless.
I will say this.I have nothing but respect for you and every member of this forum and all the opinions expressed here(no matter what the subject).And if you want to flex your moderator muscle and have me banned for standing up for myself in this moment,I wll respect that decision as well,and with no love lost.But please,before you start calling other people out as something that everyone would agree as negative,be sure you know who they are first.You might just find that people aren't always 100% serious.
That said,I still stand by my opinion that Hillary has too many personal agendas.And I agree with Sizzla's opinion that men in this country will have some new social and economic challenges if she makes it.And I am quite sure that the feminist groups(as well as women in general)in this country would be right behind her to make sure she "takes care of business",as at this point,they are her strongest contingent.That is not to say she would be a "bad president",as you assumed I said,but she definitely shows signs of vindication.And understandably so.Bill was kind of a dick to her.