Low sub eq help

[mikeyp]

I would really not cut any bass because that makes no sense to me... especially when you are making bass-centric music genres, but thats my opinoin.

I would put a limiter on your sub bass channel to help even out inconsistencies in "volume" of different notes.

Although 30hz if low and yes your standard bar/pa rigs will not hit much under 40hz... when/if you do get to play out on a bigger rig with proper bassbins you better beleive those systems can get down to 30hz and damn near close to 20hz with enough bins in the cluster/arrays.

exactly

do things with the biggest best system in mind

[Sagal]

I'm just sharing my experience about the low end frankly. I'm a great fan of cutting anything unnecesarry out of music really. It depends on a track. Sometimes it's beneficial, sometimes not so much, but let's face it - around 30Hz most of you can't hear/feel propertly at home while producing, won't really make much of a difference in a regular club. It's all about overtones, which may get better when you cut, depending on how you process your sub / low bass section.

Those very low frequencies are problematic and might as well not sound great on those larger systems you mention. There might be some dirt which will come out during compression and make your mix sound weak, or weaker than it might be, and you refuse to cut it cause... there is something there adding more blowing air basically - i can see it on the spectro.... Bare in mind those low frequencies carry most energy.

I'm not defending a theory. It's just a thing I do, a thing I learned. Where you cut is highly track - dependant. We can agree here that yes - in heavy bass tracks 40Hz is too high. Probably around 30 is your best bet. If your lowest note / effect hits a certain frequency, why would you allow some artifacts to go lower? It's not the midrange where artifacts are part of the art. After all most producers I know do that. And it sounds better to me as well.

But better is highly subjective so no point in this discussion I guess.

[blinx]

sagal i get that for sure.

You do it your way i do it my way, we all make dope tunes!

[Sagal]

Amen.

[RT60]

I have often wondered what 25Hz would sound/feel like.

[Sagal]

I have often wondered what 25Hz would sound/feel like.

I think they go that low in many quality cinemas for effects. I've seen some rotary woofers that go much lower for cinema use, down to 1Hz even which is just plain ridicoulous. Need to go check one out some day.

[Artie_Fufkin]

Sub and EQ in the thread title.....

Take a look at a spectrum analyzer. If that low note and the the other notes are the same level, I'd say you're good whether your speakers will play it or not. However I wouldn't go too low unless you mean for your stuff to be played on ^^ those subs. I generally don't go lower than 30Hz and I put a high pass filter with a cut off of at least 30Hz on everything. I recently found that there's a preset on the filter I use with the same settings I use specifically for this called "Infrasonic Filter".

[RT60]

I have often wondered what 25Hz would sound/feel like.

I think they go that low in many quality cinemas for effects. I've seen some rotary woofers that go much lower for cinema use, down to 1Hz even which is just plain ridicoulous. Need to go check one out some day.

The cinemas around here have shit sound. Anyways what I meant was actually listening to a 25Hz tone and noting its qualities, not just hearing it for a fraction of a second with many frequencies overtop.

[Jas0n]

A decent system in your trunk and you ought to be able to rumble around town all day listening to nothing but 25hz sine waves ... ?

[RT60]

A decent system in your trunk and you ought to be able to rumble around town all day listening to nothing but 25hz sine waves ... ?

You are not getting the idea. I mean in a studio setting. Running test oscillators.
You can have your car shake apart and rattle all you want. All you will be hearing is the parts of your car vibrating all around you.
The lowest frequency of a sub woofer does not only depend on the specs of the sub. Even if it goes down to 10Hz it is still not achieving anywhere near that unless it is in an utterly perfect environment. Therefore finding a studio or any area where you can actually clearly perceive frequencies that low is not at all as easy as getting a sub with a low frequency range or just going to any movie theater.