Basslines these days! re-sampling?

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motox2121
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Re: Mid range freq splitting

Post by motox2121 » Thu Jan 12, 2012 7:39 am

Also, regarding compression during the resampling process. Do you guys place a compressor at the end of your chain so that its compressed lightly each and every time, or do you wait until the end and run your "finished" product through the compressor a couple times to glue it together and finalize it?

I know I have a lot of questions but I feel these specific ones aren't discussed very often, as is resampling in general lol.

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Re: Mid range freq splitting

Post by joshisrad » Thu Jan 12, 2012 7:48 am

motox2121 wrote:So do you guys use chorus / flangers etc on your MID band?
depends on the sound but it is certainly not a bad idea to chorus or phaser or whatever the mids
I split mine @ 4k and I mucked with the highs in that manner getting a much nicer sound. Do you guys do any chorus / delays / stereo spread etc. the lower mids at all? Can it be done without muddying? I usually don't do anyhting more than a small dimension expander in the initial patch in massive but I may be missing out on this... I normally just do some light to moderated distortion using camelphat, ohmicide, or standard ableton overdrive/saturation.
There's not really a "right answer" here
Any other suggestions I should try for processing my lower mid range band?
try shit out
In what way would a transient shaper benefit me in this situation?
no idea xd


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Wub Wub, am I doing it 'right'?

Post by ScarletCyanide » Thu Jan 12, 2012 11:40 am

Hey guys, so I was wondering essentially if I'm doing my basslines the convebtional way?

I've been making 3ish note progressions, routing it too three seperate busses, EQing o.e low, one mids, one highs etc. I theen add relevant effects to the sound, i.e. bitcrusher to mids perhaps high, filter etc and then normally effectrix on he track to add a bit of extra glitch and movement too it, then bounce and place in the track and perhaps cut it up, move bits round and maybe reverse some sections...

As I'm still pretty new to producing I was wondering if this is a good way to go about it or not? I kindda got confused after I saw Wubs Bassline Movement thread :/

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Re: Wub Wub, am I doing it 'right'?

Post by serox » Thu Jan 12, 2012 11:44 am

please do it the non conventional way! or you will sound like everyone else who is trying to sound like someone else!
Don’t worry about people stealing an idea. If it’s original, you will have to ram it down their throats.

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Re: Wub Wub, am I doing it 'right'?

Post by Electric_Head » Thu Jan 12, 2012 11:49 am

do folks still use bitrushers?
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Re: Wub Wub, am I doing it 'right'?

Post by serox » Thu Jan 12, 2012 12:00 pm

Electric_Head wrote:do folks still use bitrushers?
Afraid so.
Don’t worry about people stealing an idea. If it’s original, you will have to ram it down their throats.

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Re: Wub Wub, am I doing it 'right'?

Post by cmgoodman1226 » Thu Jan 12, 2012 5:03 pm

Electric_Head wrote:do folks still use bitrushers?
If used sparingly, that or any type of lo-fi can give a really nice high end to a reese.

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Re: Basslines these days! re-sampling?

Post by ricoLA » Sat Jan 14, 2012 3:45 pm

thanks for all the techniques everyone!

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Re: Basslines these days! re-sampling?

Post by Undrig » Mon Jan 16, 2012 3:14 pm

This might help a bit in terms of resampling. I take the mid layer of bass and drag parts of it to a new track for adding fx. Then I (flatten in ableton) it down to audio on that track after freezing it. I still have the original sound in another track, so it's kinda working in a semi-destructive environment. I also drag midi clips to audio tracks in ableton. As it renders the clip to audio. It's a great way to get some messed up sounds without putting any strain on your cpu. Plus in ableton if you stumble upon something clever, you can save it as an audiorack with some macro knobs for later. Experiment with splitting the sound on a note per note basis and paste it back together with fx in the new track. While obviously having a separate track of pure sine underneath carrying the weight.

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Re: Basslines these days! re-sampling?

Post by naroja » Mon Jan 16, 2012 9:15 pm

Resampling is quite easy actually, it's just a process to learn it. After doing it a few times it'll get a lot faster.

The thing I think is even bigger than resampling for those fat basslines is frequency splitting + sends with some focused processing.
But Resampling never hurts, it's just another tool that can create some pretty crazy effects. Watch out though, you don't mud up the sound by overdoing it, this can be easy to do (always do an A/B comparison before continuing) :D
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Re: Basslines these days! re-sampling?

Post by EFEKZ » Wed Jan 18, 2012 4:41 am

highgain wrote:Okay so we've created a patch with potential then then we resample / split / effect / resample

Once you've got a great sounding sample, how would you load it into a sampler (say the one in ableton) to use as a new instrument without stretching it all out of wack when we move 3-4 keys up from the original?
Once you load the sample into ableton's sampler, at the bottom left side of the sample interface, you will see a key thingy that naturally says C3....change that to the original note that the sample was created in, and it will be perfect...........if I understood your question correctly

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Re: Basslines these days! re-sampling?

Post by highgain » Wed Jan 18, 2012 5:57 am

EFEKZ wrote:
highgain wrote:Okay so we've created a patch with potential then then we resample / split / effect / resample

Once you've got a great sounding sample, how would you load it into a sampler (say the one in ableton) to use as a new instrument without stretching it all out of wack when we move 3-4 keys up from the original?
Once you load the sample into ableton's sampler, at the bottom left side of the sample interface, you will see a key thingy that naturally says C3....change that to the original note that the sample was created in, and it will be perfect...........if I understood your question correctly
Correct that is great for resampling pre-modulation but I would love to have modulations from massive that stay "static" even when I load it into a sampler, but then I guess that would make things too easy hahah

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Re: Basslines these days! re-sampling?

Post by daeMTHAFKNkim » Wed Jan 18, 2012 7:04 am

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