Drug Question/General Drug Thread

[jameshk]

My advice mate, just don't fuck with drugs. They only lead down bad paths, all drugs have got me is a string of ruined relationships, lost friends, debt and multiple health problems including a dodgy heart, fucked galbladder and a hole in my nose.

First they're a lot of fun of course, then you need them to have fun, then you become reliant, eventually you start pushing people away.

this is gona be even worse with opiates, they make nothing else matter.

Stick with reefer bro!

[SunkLo]

I agree. Experimentation with other drugs has just led me to realize that weed is all you need.
If you want to try something new go for psychedelics. Something with less risk for harm and also an opportunity for benefit and enlightenment.
For just recreational use I'd suggest something like mdma over opiates, assuming you can get a good source that isn't filled with meth. As long as you keep it in low doses and don't let yourself build a tolerance you'll be alright every once in a while.

As with anything, do a lot of reading on erowid and other drug forums to see if it's right for you. Reading trip reports and details of a drug's effects will help you understand what you're in for.

[leyenda]

weed is all you need.

With the occasional use of

psychedelics

And maybe MDMA or something a little like it symptomwise like Mephedrone. Fuck opiates, way too addictive.

[hudson]

My advice mate, just don't fuck with drugs. They only lead down bad paths, all drugs have got me is a string of ruined relationships, lost friends, debt and multiple health problems including a dodgy heart, fucked galbladder and a hole in my nose.

First they're a lot of fun of course, then you need them to have fun, then you become reliant, eventually you start pushing people away.

this is gona be even worse with opiates, they make nothing else matter.

Stick with reefer bro!

It's really about who you are though, I've seen people get totally lost in that world, but I've also seen people get into it to the same point and just have fun, not fuck anyone over, then just slowly grow out of the scene ( )
People should have to take a test before they can touch any drugs, because they are great for some people and horrible for others.

[jameshk]

My advice mate, just don't fuck with drugs. They only lead down bad paths, all drugs have got me is a string of ruined relationships, lost friends, debt and multiple health problems including a dodgy heart, fucked galbladder and a hole in my nose.

First they're a lot of fun of course, then you need them to have fun, then you become reliant, eventually you start pushing people away.

this is gona be even worse with opiates, they make nothing else matter.

Stick with reefer bro!

It's really about who you are though, I've seen people get totally lost in that world, but I've also seen people get into it to the same point and just have fun, not fuck anyone over, then just slowly grow out of the scene ( )
People should have to take a test before they can touch any drugs, because they are great for some people and horrible for others.

I think it comes down to what kind of personality you have. Unfortunately for me I have a horrifically addictive personality. Feels good to be clean now though.

[wormcode]

My advice mate, just don't fuck with drugs. They only lead down bad paths, all drugs have got me is a string of ruined relationships, lost friends, debt and multiple health problems including a dodgy heart, fucked galbladder and a hole in my nose.

First they're a lot of fun of course, then you need them to have fun, then you become reliant, eventually you start pushing people away.

this is gona be even worse with opiates, they make nothing else matter.

Stick with reefer bro!

It's really about who you are though, I've seen people get totally lost in that world, but I've also seen people get into it to the same point and just have fun, not fuck anyone over, then just slowly grow out of the scene ( )
People should have to take a test before they can touch any drugs, because they are great for some people and horrible for others.

I think it comes down to what kind of personality you have. Unfortunately for me I have a horrifically addictive personality. Feels good to be clean now though.

Yeah that's key. I was always lucky enough to lose interest after a weekend of fun, and sometimes leftovers sat in my safe for months until I partied again. A close friend of mine was the opposite though, and ended up selling everything he owned for more on more than one occasion. Ruined his life, relationships, family, health etc. In & out of rehabs several times. It's just built into some folks really. If alcoholism or addiction runs in the family anwhere, it's a safe bet you need to be extra careful and avoid addictive stuff altogether.

Good going getting clean. It's extremely hard for some people to do. The friend I mentioned had to take very drastic measures, move far away etc. He's still using JWH but at least he's not stealing and selling stuff for skag anymore.

[mylon]

[AxeD]

I'm not exactly new to the whole drugs bit but I actually had to read up on some things to understand this.
We're basically talking about medicinal amphetamines here right? That wouldn't exactly be my first choice. There's mdma, coke,
speed, ket.. all that stuff why would one mess about with adderall?

I don't really understand why people immediately advice to stay away from amphetamines though. Just don't go with methamphetamine
which is not speed in my eyes btw (meth is sometimes sold as speed in the US). Luckily you can't easily find meth in my home country, that shit is plain dangerous.

[mylon]

I'm not exactly new to the whole drugs bit but I actually had to read up on some things to understand this.
We're basically talking about medicinal amphetamines here right? That wouldn't exactly be my first choice. There's mdma, coke,
speed, ket.. all that stuff why would one mess about with adderall?

I don't really understand why people immediately advice to stay away from amphetamines though. Just don't go with methamphetamine
which is not speed in my eyes btw (meth is sometimes sold as speed in the US). Luckily you can't easily find meth in my home country, that shit is plain dangerous.

the only reason for me would be ease of access.
'specially due to my lack age, connections

[mylon]

[AxeD]

Ah okay, well try to wait till you're a little older. Probably easier said then done, you can't legally drink yet either probably?

I never found the stuff btw, it found me
Got offered ketamine when I was 16 though, glad I refused back then.

[mylon]

Ah okay, well try to wait till you're a little older. Probably easier said then done, you can't legally drink yet either probably?

I never found the stuff btw, it found me
Got offered ketamine when I was 16 though, glad I refused back then.

I can't legally drink, although I can easily get it. I'm probably going to get (actually) drunk for the first time, soon.
Maybe that will subdue me
for now, at least...

[waki]

I'm probably going to get (actually) drunk for the first time, soon.

and you want to snort oxy..

seriously wtf

[S1NTH3TIC]

between vyvanse or adderall, I'd recommend railing the addy. ~60mg would be a really good speed for your first time, just don't expect to sleep for a while. If you smoke cigs then you'll want a full pack as well. Speeding is really fun, but I've had some buddies take it too far. Make sure you can handle taking a step into real drugs.

ALSO! vyvanse cant be ingested through your nasal cavity so no point in railing it.

[S1NTH3TIC]

double post

[leyenda]

I'm probably going to get (actually) drunk for the first time, soon.

and you want to snort oxy..

seriously wtf

Exactly, do you mind saying how old you are OP? I wouldn't even advise psychedelics or the usual uppers if you're below 15. Weed is fine but not daily at that age. Just enjoy getting slaughtered on a spirit at parties and putting yourself off said spirit for life.

[mylon]

[SCope13]

Vicodin doesnt do shit for me. When I had my stress fracture, I took 2 before bed, continued to have throbbing pain, took another, and ended up staying awake until 5:30 in the morning watching MASH with nothing but pain.

[Suangi]

ALSO! vyvanse cant be ingested through your nasal cavity so no point in railing it.

this. same with long release addy. so don't rail those. general rule for snorting vs ingesting is that snorting makes everything happen more quickly, while ingesting makes it come on more slowly and last longer. i'd say hold off on snorting anything right now.

almost any price for pharms is a ripoff as the script holder's copay is literally pennies per pill, and they will probably just spend your money buying weed or coke or video games. If you're 15 or under, you've got plenty of time to try stuff, so don't rush into it. The effect that weed has at that age is way better than any pharms, so enjoy that while you can.

read up a lot on erowid, including the experiences section. know your shit first & good look asking for advice before popping whatever your friend scoops from his nurse mom.
start with a low dose if you're new to a substance and dont know how youll react. This doesnt mean take a little, then take the rest because you dont feel high right away. Take a little and if it doesnt work, take a little more next time.
i have tried more substances than i remember the names of, and pharms rank pretty low for me.
overall, be safe. sounds like you have a lot of time ahead of you, so don't fuck it up now.
again Be Safe

[SunkLo]

Dude I would say definitely don't do it. I wouldn't be dippin into that shit at 22 let alone back when I was 15. If you're determined to do something more than weed, grow some mushrooms in your closet or grow one of those cacti. Don't even fuck with that shit when you're young man, your reward receptors are still developing, you don't want to be numb and unhappy in 5 years. Easy on the psychedelics too, it's hard to get through menial stuff like school and getting stuff done when the fabric of reality is malleable.

Also, it's always "Fuck school, Do drugs, I'm a badass."
The fact that you're denying it means you're ill-equipped.

Seriously though man just smoke weed, jack off, play x-box, bump tunes, like a normal 15 year old.
You have a lot of time to dip into shit later on, you're not dying any time soon.