Cloudkillers??? Has anyone else tried this...

[staggalicous]

Then call me an attention whore idc

Attention whore

thank you. +10 internets to you sir.

and btw following and unfollowing people is not a bad thing. its just a less annoying way to say "hey check out my music". no one is forcing you to follow them if you dont actually like their music.

It's a ratty move and everyone here's knows that

only a ratty move if you think its a ratty move. People wont find your music if you dont put yourself out there somehow. How do u get your music heard?

[dickman69]

i want as few people as possible to hear my soundcloud b/c then my tracks get clogged up with all the comments and its so annnnnoyingggg

[Shum]

Is there anyway to prevent people from commenting on your tracks on Soundcloud? (I don't upload my music to it.)

[Basic A]

either way my tracks are getting heard which is what i want.

I really think youd be surprised how many people are actually listening and how many are jsut commenting so people will comment them. Your kidding yourself if you think 99% of those are geniune. Track your plays + comments ratio this week. See what you get.

What scares you so much about actual promotion? Why do you need a you-scratch-my-back-ill-scratch-yours service? Cant you jsut earn respect? Of course not, what was i tihnking, way to much to ask for someone remixing r.a.t.m. tracks.

also... I'm pretty sure the site u visited was a phishing site cuz you cannot actually "buy comments".

cloudkillers.com right? Yeah, there are 4 options, different promotional packages, all sorted into the number of comments your guarenteed to get for the money. If thats not a feature of the site, they might wanna check on their security, as someone has hacked them and set up a whole store page in their name.

Are you affiliated with cloudkillers? Almost half your posts on DSF so far have been related to them, so I have to ask.

@Shum, yes, you can disable comments in the extended settings for your tunes.

[dickman69]

idk maybe there is a way

[xlyr]

I like it because it helps me find some pretty good producers on there. I comment then go find them later, and it forces people to listen to my shitty music which is always fun.

Basically I use it because I'm too lazy to actually dig around soundcloud so I go there

[Basic A]

How do u get your music heard?

Work closely with my labels during times they are promoting my releases, spent years messaging bloggers and djs, becoming friends with them, and adding them to a promotional mailing list. Walk through my local mall occassionally and hand out mixtapes to the trendy kids. Put my shit in my sig on DSF and give useful advice in production forum. Cut dubs entirely for other people, have dubstudio send em straight to your DJs, skip your house entirely. Attend shows, shake hands. Throw my logo up on every other wall I tag. Move your decks/speakers to the middle of the street you live on, spin for hours, hope people stop and watch. Post in soundcloud/facebook groups. Collab, promote each others work as a team. Get involved in some collectives. Spin tracks from artists you respect who arent as well known as they deserve to be, message the artist links to the mixes (these make my day, i always spread the word if someone tells me they dropped my shit.) Sell weed, give every customer a dope ass smoker of a mixtape with every purchase. Get hot bitches to put teknicyde stickers in their bedrooms, preferably, right above the headboard of their bed. Go to local record stores, ask if you can sit some free promo CDs on the counter.

Overall, write good music.

[dickman69]

im hoping my summer will be something like that ^^^

[Basic A]

im hoping my summer will be something like that ^^^

Whoa... fellow burghian... I had no idea, Ive seen you post here before, thats wild mang.

[dickman69]

i actually live in monroeville tho

[staggalicous]

How do u get your music heard?

Work closely with my labels during times they are promoting my releases, spent years messaging bloggers and djs, becoming friends with them, and adding them to a promotional mailing list. Walk through my local mall occassionally and hand out mixtapes to the trendy kids. Put my shit in my sig on DSF and give useful advice in production forum. Cut dubs entirely for other people, have dubstudio send em straight to your DJs, skip your house entirely. Attend shows, shake hands. Throw my logo up on every other wall I tag. Move your decks/speakers to the middle of the street you live on, spin for hours, hope people stop and watch. Post in soundcloud/facebook groups. Collab, promote each others work as a team. Get involved in some collectives. Spin tracks from artists you respect who arent as well known as they deserve to be, message the artist links to the mixes (these make my day, i always spread the word if someone tells me they dropped my shit.) Sell weed, give every customer a dope ass smoker of a mixtape with every purchase. Get hot bitches to put teknicyde stickers in their bedrooms, preferably, right above the headboard of their bed. Go to local record stores, ask if you can sit some free promo CDs on the counter.

Overall, write good music.

I agree. some of what you mention i actually do, although so far i have only been producing... still looking into djing. A lot of what you mentioned is also impossible for me considering i dont have a label and people dont really respect artists without a label, and im also a full time student in a very competitive engineering school, so my time is very limited and i choose to spend most of my time actually making music

[Basic A]

i actually live in monroeville tho

Humbug. Anything between morgantown and alquippa = the burgh imo. Washington myself (yeah, 724, rt 51, go ahead, call it the sticks, you knwo you wanna)...

Good to see the rise of producers around here, we've been a DJ dominated city for ages.

If your ever sendin around tunes man, keep me in mind, always up to try and support locals.

[Sexual_Chocolate]

i just went onto cloudkillers &... LOL what a bunch hyped up shit

[dickman69]

sure will man!

[Basic A]

i dont have a label and people dont really respect artists without a label

Well, if someone approached me with a demo for cosmo or unit, and I saw they had the whole soundcloud-murdered-by-cloudspammers like you do, it would be a quick and easy no, because it would show the artists complete lack of personability or promotional skills. So your not helping yourself in that regard.

I respect artists without a label. Most everytihng I spin comes through straight from artist on AIM. Dont know anyone whod really look different on someone without releases...

Aside from the first thing I said, which is working with them as closely as possible, nothing I covered was label oriented, any monkey making music could do them. There is nothing stops you from going to the marina district, next to where they have the rigada day every year, and putting up a system. Ive seen it done, that little park on the hill there, is an awesome renegade spot, your lucky to live in philly. And if you dont DJ, oh well, make friends with someone who does, or do what skirlex does and cheat. This is going to be a requirement along the way no matter how you look at it.

finally, most people dont have a single label... 360 deals are more uncommon amongst record labels then common in EDM... Usually EDM artists set themselves up with a release roster of one-time contracting with labels + an artist management service as their single-company exclusive signing. This is why you see people with 8-9 labels on their roster lists, and one promo agency.

[staggalicous]

i dont have a label and people dont really respect artists without a label

Well, if someone approached me with a demo for cosmo or unit, and I saw they had the whole soundcloud-murdered-by-cloudspammers like you do, it would be a quick and easy no, because it would show the artists complete lack of personability or promotional skills. So your not helping yourself in that regard.

I respect artists without a label. Most everytihng I spin comes through straight from artist on AIM. Dont know anyone whod really look different on someone without releases...

Aside from the first thing I said, which is working with them as closely as possible, nothing I covered was label oriented, any monkey making music could do them. There is nothing stops you from going to the marina district, next to where they have the rigada day every year, and putting up a system. Ive seen it done, that little park on the hill there, is an awesome renegade spot, your lucky to live in philly. And if you dont DJ, oh well, make friends with someone who does, or do what skirlex does and cheat. This is going to be a requirement along the way no matter how you look at it.

finally, most people dont have a single label... 360 deals are more uncommon amongst record labels then common in EDM... Usually EDM artists set themselves up with a release roster of one-time contracting with labels + an artist management service as their single-company exclusive signing. This is why you see people with 8-9 labels on their roster lists, and one promo agency.

ok now im past having arguments about cloudkillers for fun lol. I'm limited on money as im going to a 50k a year school, and the only speakers i have are $100 studio monitors. What speakers u think i would need? also, im planning on figuring out how to dj using just my launchpad and midi keyboard... probs gunna need more controllers for that, might just get a turntable/mixer all in one thingamajig... still exploring my options.

iv seen skrillex. what do u mean by cheat? never really looked into how he does it.

[Basic A]

ok now im past having arguments about cloudkillers for fun lol. I'm limited on money as im going to a 50k a year school, and the only speakers i have are $100 studio monitors. What speakers u think i would need? also, im planning on figuring out how to dj using just my launchpad and midi keyboard... probs gunna need more controllers for that, might just get a turntable/mixer all in one thingamajig... still exploring my options.

iv seen skrillex. what do u mean by cheat? never really looked into how he does it.

Schools understandable, I went to Penn State, as Im sure rayman can attest, its not the most expensive school in the world, but its an investment none the less. On a low budget, for speakers, Id think about starting a save-up fund for some better monitors Adam and Yamaha both have really good studio monitor lines... With a good set of monitors with a clean response curve, youll fairly rapidly feel the increase in your workflow after your ears adapt. A good set of nearfeild monitors is step one for anyone who wants to produce.
If you actually want a small PA rig, theres a comapny called b52 that do 4x15 stereo loudspeakers + 2x18 subs, they're expensive from a consumer standpoint, but also, a million fold cheaper then some of the great systems out there, and worth the investment if you wanna get into the house party/renegade circuit. This is worthless as a producer though, DJ luxuries like.

As for what to learn mixing on, I learned how to beatmatch on a numark cdmix1, back then they were a couple hundred bucks, nowadays you can get one for right around 49 american used. I definately recommend learning on CDJs or turntables before you really get into software DJing... Software can become a real annoyance if it doesnt function 100%, and that sorta stuff can really discourage a newbie. Also, learning your basic in-ear beatmatching on a traditional pitch-fader system will be the single most valuable asset to yourself as a DJ, itll make it possible for you to play seemlessly on virtually any setup your ever put in front of, because youll be doing it by ear.

the joke on the mainstream producer dude was just one about all-pc DJs, and how they'd be lost in front of a traditional DJ rig.

[staggalicous]

ok now im past having arguments about cloudkillers for fun lol. I'm limited on money as im going to a 50k a year school, and the only speakers i have are $100 studio monitors. What speakers u think i would need? also, im planning on figuring out how to dj using just my launchpad and midi keyboard... probs gunna need more controllers for that, might just get a turntable/mixer all in one thingamajig... still exploring my options.

iv seen skrillex. what do u mean by cheat? never really looked into how he does it.

Schools understandable, I went to Penn State, as Im sure rayman can attest, its not the most expensive school in the world, but its an investment none the less. On a low budget, for speakers, Id think about starting a save-up fund for some better monitors Adam and Yamaha both have really good studio monitor lines... With a good set of monitors with a clean response curve, youll fairly rapidly feel the increase in your workflow after your ears adapt. A good set of nearfeild monitors is step one for anyone who wants to produce.
If you actually want a small PA rig, theres a comapny called b52 that do 4x15 stereo loudspeakers + 2x18 subs, they're expensive from a consumer standpoint, but also, a million fold cheaper then some of the great systems out there, and worth the investment if you wanna get into the house party/renegade circuit. This is worthless as a producer though, DJ luxuries like.

As for what to learn mixing on, I learned how to beatmatch on a numark cdmix1, back then they were a couple hundred bucks, nowadays you can get one for right around 49 american used. I definately recommend learning on CDJs or turntables before you really get into software DJing... Software can become a real annoyance if it doesnt function 100%, and that sorta stuff can really discourage a newbie. Also, learning your basic in-ear beatmatching on a traditional pitch-fader system will be the single most valuable asset to yourself as a DJ, itll make it possible for you to play seemlessly on virtually any setup your ever put in front of, because youll be doing it by ear.

the joke on the mainstream producer dude was just one about all-pc DJs, and how they'd be lost in front of a traditional DJ rig.

I dont really need better monitors, im really happy with the ones i got now considering how small most rooms in philadelphia apartments are lol. Right now im just looking to start learning how to dj for house parties and mix my own tracks in so those PA's might be a good idea. Also, i know a lot of DJ's from my school and all of them use Software lol. whats the difference tho? I figured setting up a DJ set in ableton warping songs to mix together and adding effects on the two tracks (decks) that would mimic what you would find on a traditional dj set would be good.

i feel like i would be lost on any DJ rig iv never used before lol

[brettheaslewood]

This is really a 'how to promote yourself' argument.
Some people pay silly prices to promote there poor tracks, which is a shame, as, if they pushed themselves with normal promotion they'd get true feedback.
Others, actually just spam there friends with there tracks and post links on facebook/blogs or on here even.

Honestly, there's no need to argue over who spends money on an internet gimmick, that's lame.

[legend4ry]

I can see the attraction but here is my views ; I have slowly built up a fan base over the last 3ish years from releasing free EPs, connecting with DJs by sitting in radio stations chatrooms during the their shows, contacting labels whom I respect just to show support and eventually sending tunes (if I have the right stuff for them), speaking to bloggers, being around on DSF, going out to nights and handing out a few CDs to big named producers as well as producers I meet on the night and such.. You know the new-old fashioned way..

Its been a tiresome (at times) but rewarding journey and there is still thousands of people within bass music who don't know who the fack I am or what I do but those who do are supportive and 95% of my comments on soundcloud, facebook and twitter are genuine.

All the stuff I have done to promote music is natural though; even if I didn't make music I would still speak to these people due to common interest so I don't see it as "pushing myself as an artist" and more of "being part of this scene".


I think thats something Dubstep lacks these days; it used to be a scene, a community and some what way of life; now its just a music genre.

/rant