Ableton live drums: Audio vs Midi

[Perej]

Just trying to work with audio just now and it's actually nice being able to place everything a bit more specifically. Mapping out the beat in my head is easier like this. One thing is annoying though... what do you do with tiny samples that are so small in the audio lane you have to zoom in to the maximum to move them? Doesn't that become a pain in the arse?

[Tiger Blood]

hey guys thought id throw a question in here rather than make my own thread on the same topic.

I always use audio for my drums on seperate channels, my main concern is always i never worked out how to EQ individual samples in a drum rack, also i cant judge how long the midi notes need to be to get the full sample (snares and kicks being to short for some reason)

I want to switch to midi as using audio is killing creativity with drums as i always go for the same pattern every track when id rather tap it out on my maschine to arrange in midi for more complex patterns.

Any good vids on all this so i can move over?

sorry to the OP but thought it keeps the forum tidier than making more posts!

[mks]

As far as EQ'ing goes, just drop the EQ onto the individual drum pads so it is just on that sound, not the entire rack.

[Misanthr0py]

hey guys thought id throw a question in here rather than make my own thread on the same topic.

I always use audio for my drums on seperate channels, my main concern is always i never worked out how to EQ individual samples in a drum rack, also i cant judge how long the midi notes need to be to get the full sample (snares and kicks being to short for some reason)

I want to switch to midi as using audio is killing creativity with drums as i always go for the same pattern every track when id rather tap it out on my maschine to arrange in midi for more complex patterns.

Any good vids on all this so i can move over?

sorry to the OP but thought it keeps the forum tidier than making more posts!

Drop an EQ on the the specific pad for that sample, and to get the full sample length to turn the release dial the whole way up on the simpler of each sound, that way it doesn't matter how long your note is...

Can't help you with vids though bud, all audio for me

[Swelly]

Just go on YouTube and search for dubspot tutorials. They have a bunch and they are really good. Not completely sure if they have a drum rack tutorial. But I think they do.

[BloomingAudioLife]

i use the Drum Rack only because my laptop cant handle all the shittons of percussion his i use in most of my songs.

[Perej]

i just don't get how people can work with audio when the clips are so small. I lose track of the overall arrangement when I'm that far zoomed in... noone else? And where is the proof that drum racks don't sound as good as audio? hmm

[skwiggo]

i think that guy on the ableton forum was trolling - i can't see how audio samples played through the samplers in a drum rack can sound any different to audio unless you deliberately change the sound in the sampler. at the same time a lot of stuff does affect the sound in ableton (warping and other things - i think samples played through impulse sounds a bit different to drum racks or pure audio too but that just mite be my ears playing up idk)

i find both valuable ways of working and i use both pure audio and drum racks equally in tracks now. basically if i'm bored with using drum racks i'll make my next track's beat in audio and vice versa lol. i think you get a little bit more freedom with reversing/stretching using pure audio but you get velocity and easily mappable macros and convenience with drum racks.

also consolidating audio tracks together helps a lot when using pure audio to keep your tracks neat and tidy but still easy to find each individual hit (highlight clips you want to consolidate together, right click at the top of one of the highlighted clips then click consolidate in the right click menu for windows users).