Too Much EQ'ing

SKIN E · Post by **SKIN E** » Sat Sep 08, 2012 4:03 pm

haha ^^

Bassf4ce · Post by **Bassf4ce** » Sat Sep 08, 2012 5:37 pm

goodeh wrote:sorry to potentially derail the thread, but i was thinking about the phrase 'polish a turd'. if you polish a turd to much, then you might rub away the turd so much that all you have left is polish. does this mean that if you keep trying to make something bad into something good so much, it actually turn into something good?

Even though it is just a metaphor, it appears I have just done that! Now I have a perfectly good sound! I don't think I will ever be doing this much eqing ever again.

MaZa1 · Post by **MaZa1** » Sat Sep 08, 2012 9:34 pm

Sometimes when you try to polish a turd you might change the sound so that you can use it to something else. Like trying to make a midbass and you end up using the sound as some random percussive sound.

Steve_French · Post by **Steve_French** » Sat Sep 08, 2012 9:40 pm

MaZa1 wrote:Sometimes when you try to polish a turd you might change the sound so that you can use it to something else. Like trying to make a midbass and you end up using the sound as some random percussive sound.

what the fuck do you use? OxiClean?

sunny_b_uk · Post by **sunny_b_uk** » Sun Sep 09, 2012 9:19 am

Bassf4ce wrote:If you have to eq a sound to the point you have 9 Eq's is it even worth using that sound?

9 EQ bands or 9 friggin EQ plugins

Bassf4ce · Post by **Bassf4ce** » Sun Sep 09, 2012 9:41 am

sunny_b_uk wrote:
Bassf4ce wrote:If you have to eq a sound to the point you have 9 Eq's is it even worth using that sound?
9 EQ bands or 9 friggin EQ plugins

9 eq plugins and each of them have 7 bands I believe. I am using most of them for taking out single frequencies, so I may just be really bad at eqing. Also, second post would have your answer.

Bassf4ce wrote:
OfficialDAPT wrote:Why are you using 9 EQ's? Let's say you are using an EQ3 (you probably are using an EQ8 but I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt.) That's still 27 boosts or cuts. I don't think I've ever EQ'ed that much on one sound... Surely you can just make the sound better in the given vsts that you are using? I can imagine that the sound is very prominent after cutting out so many frequencies.... So to answer your question, IMO no it's not worth using that sound.
Fruity's pram eq 2 has 7 bands, and usually I am getting rid of single freqs or low/high pass.

fragments · Post by **fragments** » Sun Sep 09, 2012 4:37 pm

Dude...you don't need to load a new EQ to cut multiple bands.

Bassf4ce · Post by **Bassf4ce** » Sun Sep 09, 2012 5:20 pm

fragments wrote:Dude...you don't need to load a new EQ to cut multiple bands.

I am here to learn. what do I do in such an event?

fragments · Post by **fragments** » Sun Sep 09, 2012 5:22 pm

Most VST EQs I've dealt with have multiple bands. Use the Q to narrow or widen the bands, a really narrow Q on multiple bands will help you surgically remove unwanted frequencies. : )

Sure_Fire · Post by **Sure_Fire** » Sun Sep 09, 2012 6:37 pm

In FL, a cool trick is to use edison on a sample of audio to identify harmonics and cut out unwanted frequencies with absolute precision. Try to get your head around Maximus aswell, it's a great compressor that puts FL's stock multiband compressor to shame, since you can choose the exact frequencies you want to compress, then you have a lot of compression and saturation option from then on.

There's no need for more than one eq, and Fl's parametric EQ2 is pretty much one of the best around.

Sure_Fire · Post by **Sure_Fire** » Sun Sep 09, 2012 6:37 pm

In FL, a cool trick is to use edison on a sample of audio to identify harmonics and cut out unwanted frequencies with absolute precision. Try to get your head around Maximus aswell, it's a great compressor that puts FL's stock multiband compressor to shame, since you can choose the exact frequencies you want to compress, then you have a lot of compression and saturation option from then on.

There's no need for more than one eq, and Fl's parametric EQ2 is pretty much one of the best around.

Bassf4ce · Post by **Bassf4ce** » Sun Sep 09, 2012 6:39 pm

fragments wrote:Most VST EQs I've dealt with have multiple bands. Use the Q to narrow or widen the bands, a really narrow Q on multiple bands will help you surgically remove unwanted frequencies. : )

Oh my god, who in the hell does not know what the q is? *facepalm* I said like 5 times I was taking out single freqs. Wouldn't imply that I am using very narrow q?

ehbes · Post by **ehbes** » Sun Sep 09, 2012 6:41 pm

Calm your tits

fragments · Post by **fragments** » Sun Sep 09, 2012 6:48 pm

Bassf4ce wrote:
fragments wrote:Most VST EQs I've dealt with have multiple bands. Use the Q to narrow or widen the bands, a really narrow Q on multiple bands will help you surgically remove unwanted frequencies. : )
Oh my god, who in the hell does not know what the q is? *facepalm* I said like 5 times I was taking out single freqs. Wouldn't imply that I am using very narrow q?

First, there are tons of people out there who have no idea what that is. Second, your first post made it sound like you know next to nothing TBH.

Bassf4ce · Post by **Bassf4ce** » Sun Sep 09, 2012 6:49 pm

All of my eq's, for people to see. Not in order of the chain of fx.

ehbes · Post by **ehbes** » Sun Sep 09, 2012 6:50 pm

7 of them are useless..

Bassf4ce · Post by **Bassf4ce** » Sun Sep 09, 2012 6:52 pm

fragments wrote:
Bassf4ce wrote:
fragments wrote:Most VST EQs I've dealt with have multiple bands. Use the Q to narrow or widen the bands, a really narrow Q on multiple bands will help you surgically remove unwanted frequencies. : )
Oh my god, who in the hell does not know what the q is? *facepalm* I said like 5 times I was taking out single freqs. Wouldn't imply that I am using very narrow q?
First, there are tons of people out there who have no idea what that is. Second, your first post made it sound like you know next to nothing TBH.

Sorry for freaking out on ya.

fragments · Post by **fragments** » Sun Sep 09, 2012 6:57 pm

No worries. But yea...overall if you are EQ'ing that much out of a sound...get a new sound...or your mix is already too full if you can't shoe horn in that last element. That's just IMO of course.

And by the looks of those EQs it looks like you are cutting in the same freq ranges multiple times? Just looks like a mess to me. At least for me...when shit starts getting that complex I go back and reconsider the sample/sound design.

drake89 · Post by **drake89** » Sun Sep 09, 2012 8:08 pm

only time i been using more than 1 eq is to eq click out of subs that were gated. i assume it works better than 1 because you only get -12db in ableton's eq8. not sure how the math works or anything, but it works to my ears! but yeah dude, you went waaaaay overboard there. esp since you hp'd and lp'd and cut/boosted everything in between!!!

Bassf4ce · Post by **Bassf4ce** » Sun Sep 09, 2012 8:14 pm

drake89 wrote:only time i been using more than 1 eq is to eq click out of subs that were gated. i assume it works better than 1 because you only get -12db in ableton's eq8. not sure how the math works or anything, but it works to my ears! but yeah dude, you went waaaaay overboard there. esp since you hp'd and lp'd and cut/boosted everything in between!!!

I only boosted cause I thought/think, since I am cutting shouldn't I boost a few things to balance it out?

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