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Re: On patience, hard work, and being an artist

Post by Bassf4ce » Wed Sep 19, 2012 11:31 pm

ehbrums1 wrote:
chekov wrote:it'd drive me crazy :(

i'm like literally all about the music man... /pretentious music geek mode
I'm pretty laid back about music... Except when people say chillstep
Is it because chillstep is actually more like what dubstep actually is under a false name?

*edit LOL right after typing this I go to my youtube account and this comes up in the feed:

the playlist is this:
Burial - In McDonalds
Bloc Party - Where Is Home? (Burial remix)
Burial - Fostercare
Burial - Untrue
Burial - Ghost Hardware
Volor Flex - Unfeeling
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Re: On patience, hard work, and being an artist

Post by ehbes » Wed Sep 19, 2012 11:37 pm

what people call chillstep is dubstep and 'future' garage and ambient stuff
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Re: On patience, hard work, and being an artist

Post by NinjaEdit » Thu Sep 20, 2012 1:51 am

What if you make music your day job by writing film music and sessioning, etc?

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Re: On patience, hard work, and being an artist

Post by Bassf4ce » Thu Sep 20, 2012 2:16 am

jonahmann wrote:What if you make music your day job by writing film music and sessioning, etc?
What like background ambiance?
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Re: On patience, hard work, and being an artist

Post by zeta » Thu Sep 20, 2012 2:31 am

I think he means by being a producer and recording/mixing other artists.

If you're pretty good at what you do teaching is always a fallback option for musicians.

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Re: On patience, hard work, and being an artist

Post by Attila » Thu Sep 20, 2012 2:40 am

narcissus wrote:
siperdellyeer wrote:
Hircine wrote:
siperdellyeer wrote:
Reversed wrote:"Passion". Isn't this what drives all us "bedroom producers"?
Isn't it a great thing? Something to draw motivation from. Something to reflect upon a certain emotion with.
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no, my friend did wanted to do it for the money, when he gave up he noticed i was better than him. he wanted to work with me and become "big", and i refused.

there are many people who think becoming big is just a 1 2 3 step thing :?
you actually lose more money than you make in music, I had 500 dollars cymbals stolen countless times lol
lol, why would anyone steal cymbals?
..... why wouldn't they?
Cymbals are worth a shitload...I've put about 2500 into mine...easily worth more than the rest of my kit combined. And they're usually conveniently packed away in a case with no way to trace them if stolen.

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Re: On patience, hard work, and being an artist

Post by Bassf4ce » Thu Sep 20, 2012 2:43 am

zeta wrote:I think he means by being a producer and recording/mixing other artists.

If you're pretty good at what you do teaching is always a fallback option for musicians.
I was talking about the film music idea. It would be a while before I could teach anyone anything, because how am I so-pose to teach someone if I don't even know any instruments.
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Re: On patience, hard work, and being an artist

Post by twilitez » Thu Sep 20, 2012 3:01 am

Fanu is a leg and he is right on most accounts. He could have made it bigger though being the leading example of drumfunk years ago. Apart from what he said its also about to what extent you are willing to give up artistic integrity and go with current trends.

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Re: On patience, hard work, and being an artist

Post by Ficticious » Thu Sep 20, 2012 3:17 am

Finally made a song that came directly from my heart. Much pleased with it....Gonna hammer away at it for a while.

If you want to become really good. Don't care what other's think except constructive criticism...Make it from the heart with emotion and all that jazz' 8) and share your music as well as listen to a bunch of other stuff all around. Don't hold a bias opinion there will be a good tune in any genre even if there's more bad than good.

And don't ever stop making music practice everyday if you can.
Patience, concentration, meeting people and emotion.

I'm sure a lot of you can grasp your head around this.

And no, I don't believe "selling out" is the only way. Creating your Own type of music that is absolutely amazing within your own style can also get you far. It really just depends on what crowd you hit and where you go.

There's really so much to it. So I'll just shutup now. :oops:
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Re: On patience, hard work, and being an artist

Post by Toolman4 » Thu Sep 20, 2012 6:36 am

Thanks wub. Atm, it was needed.

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Post by wub » Thu Sep 20, 2012 6:53 am

Toolman4 wrote:Thanks wub. Atm, it was needed.

Cheers.
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Re: On patience, hard work, and being an artist

Post by efence » Thu Sep 20, 2012 8:47 am

Bassf4ce wrote:I read that last article and man I don't know how someone like me could make it in the music industry. Only thing I got is connects with the two biggest local dj's in my city(It is not the strongest connection though); if they even would play my song that doesn't really do much, cause people will not really know the song that is playing. I guess I should be more focused on my skills before I worry about getting out there. I am only 16 anyways, so what does it matter?
if making music for fame or people to look at you and say "wow that was awesome" then i would say give up now. i made music for years knowing only 4-20 people would ever hear the song through headphones/carstereo/home hifi. We released tapes through local record shops and sold for a break even price(than had some left over for a loss), but i was young and thats all i could do. It was do or die...and from a professional stand point we died.

but now ,out of the original krew i recorded with 3 out of the 4 still write in some manner 10 years later. wITH NO DREAM OF EVER MAKING MONEY. We do it cause we have to. there is something inside that needs to come out. I put stuff out now and maybe 50 people might hear it wich is more than when i was trying to make money. Hearing your music on a decent system is heaven and playing out live is god. I may have too many responsibility's now as a father but i will always have memories and the release of making music

late night drunken ramble :W:

put at least a little part of you in your music....and at least you will like it

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Re: On patience, hard work, and being an artist

Post by Sharmaji » Thu Sep 20, 2012 2:08 pm

Attila wrote: Cymbals are worth a shitload...I've put about 2500 into mine...easily worth more than the rest of my kit combined. And they're usually conveniently packed away in a case with no way to trace them if stolen.
yeah was gonna say, over the years i've probably got like $10k in cymbals-- plenty of which exist in the fucked-beyond-playable pile in my backroom. Shit, if you were to buy a good brand-new K ride you could expect to pay upwards of $500. drumming don't come cheap.

to play devil's advocate, there's a lot of untested, pie-in-the-sky thoughts about the industry here. I've made my living for the past 10 years playing/writing/performing/recording music. I've walked off of plenty of gigs that i thought were bullshit, and made plenty of money playing gigs that were unbelievably fulfilling. At the end of the day, if this is what you do, there are days where it's just a job and you grin and bear it-- and there are days where it is trascendent, the music makes the sky bluer. and every shade in between.

But i do certainly agree w/ Fanu's sentiments-- patience and hard work-- consistent hard work-- are 2 of the best things you can bring to the table as a professional in music. As one on the creative end of things, being able to grow from criticism, sometimes harsh, is really handy as well, as is the ability to collaborate and bring a project to fruition, be that a single song or a full theatrical production.

Being an internet don who's got deep-set principles and will never make music just to be big because music is a part of your soul and you don't want to tarnish it-- not so much.
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Post by adover » Thu Sep 20, 2012 2:57 pm

efence wrote:
Bassf4ce wrote: put at least a little part of you in your music....and at least you will like it
Wicked quote :z:
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Re: On patience, hard work, and being an artist

Post by shoot2stun » Thu Sep 20, 2012 6:09 pm

wub wrote:


Getting your stuff heard for the first time is probably the hardest thing you’ll have to do as an artist. It’s not an uphill struggle. It’s a vertical climb (with lots of overhangs, and no safety rope). You’re fucked basically.
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Re: On patience, hard work, and being an artist

Post by narcissus » Thu Sep 20, 2012 8:56 pm

i stand by my sentiment. if you think i am a pretentious, holier-than-thou blowhard, that's fine. think what you like. i want to change the world, and i will. there are more important things than music, than art. than entertainment too.

i realize this is a wildly unpopular view here. again, you are free to rationalize your distaste in anyway you feel comfortable with.

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Re: On patience, hard work, and being an artist

Post by Ficticious » Thu Sep 20, 2012 11:52 pm

some music can be quite entertaining. But you're right, it has to be inspirational in some way to make an impact. There are a lot of things we can do for the world. Music is only one of the many. Still doesn't mean that I'll ever stop making it. :corndance:
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Re: On patience, hard work, and being an artist

Post by Toolman4 » Thu Sep 20, 2012 11:56 pm

That's fine narcissus. But the REAL HONEST TRUTH IS, passion will find a way to make both work. Such as myself, I'm a food server. I work mainly for tips in the states. I work from the earliest 3:30 till the latest at 11 but most nights I'm out by 10pm. I am single with minimal obligations, and I'm thankful because of the choices I've made to allow such circumstances. From 10pm till whenever I loose the creative juices, usually somewhere between 4-5am, I go to bed, with still a couple hrs in the afternoon to have lunch and get ready before work.

It's irrational to think that you can't reach the goal of becoming what you want solely by dedicating every waking moment to it. It's not the way the world works. It's about balance. I don't spend the time at work thinking about music b/c I need to focus on work. When I get to the studio, it's the same concept. I've kept this routine for the better part of 18 months now and it's been amazing.

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Re: On patience, hard work, and being an artist

Post by twilitez » Fri Sep 21, 2012 2:22 am

if you are convinced you cant make it, you wont. If you are convinced you can, its no guarantee for anything but a much better starting place.

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Re: On patience, hard work, and being an artist

Post by NKF » Fri Sep 21, 2012 3:45 pm

the initial caption with Edison talking about hardwork is rather ironic. Not that i don't think he worked hard but he did work hard at exploiting the hardwork of others.

I think the path that leads to music is one that isn't so much a decision as a need. I went to school for music and put all my chips in but I felt I could not live any other way. Hard work is essential. I think you also need a certain disregard for the odds. That isn't to say you should be delusional but you need to be optimistic and persistent and be able to visualize your goals.

Nobody can decide what is right for you. And i think you will find that those years of poverty and hardwork are the years many look back as in some way rewarding. The journey is what matters. I do think it requires sacrifices many won't make and being committed to something is important in achieving the goals you set out to make.

In the end, whether you make it or not, your life will be richer. But i won't lie that when you find out your high school mongoloid pal has paid off his mortgage , it is going to sting a bit.

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