How to make this Sound December 2012

[IamDroid]

isn't darkstep a dnb subgenre?

Most of the darkstep that i've heard has generally been at or around 140 bpm. Idk if actually derived from DNB, but most of the artist that make it do most dubstep so, that I would assume its another dubstep sub genre. It has a lot reese bass, so make its a darker slower version of DNB, idk. I don't really know all the sub genres of EDM, i just classify them by tempo, and then if their in a certain range to me i just consider them to be in most generic mainstream genre.

[Blingley]

Yeah, as far as I know, Darkstep is a jungle subgenre, similar to Neurofunk. Essentially, where Neurofunk and Darkstep both come from Techstep, they took different directions on where they headed from there. Neurofunk brought in Sci-Fi elements, and tried to get as clean of a production as possible. Darkstep went into a more horror-esque direction, and incorporated elements of Darkcore.

I'm not sure what 140BPM version should be called. Going by the internal logic of genre names, Probably something like: "Gittle-Dinky Bowlstep". Still makes more sense than some of the other names.

[Genevieve]

Yeah darkstep is a type of dnb and it's been around for a bit longer than dubstep has. It's the primary genre I make. It's stuff like dis:



Dubstep is EXTREMELY anti-subgenres. Chillstep/joystep/deathstep/darkstep/whateverstep is never something in dubstep. It's just 'dubstep'. Brostep is more of a derogatory term for a certain flavor of dubstep than a genre.

[Eridu]

I`d say you`re looking for a "machine gun" type of bass, similar to that in noisia`s track of the same name. General guidelines are quick pitch down envelopes with a lot of distortion. There was a good tutorial on yt that replicated that bass pretty good and I cant find it anymore.

[IamDroid]

I`d say you`re looking for a "machine gun" type of bass, similar to that in noisia`s track of the same name. General guidelines are quick pitch down envelopes with a lot of distortion. There was a good tutorial on yt that replicated that bass pretty good and I cant find it anymore.

Okay I know how to make a machine gun 8 bit style bass in massive using I think a HP/LP/Comb/Scream filter. One of the four, i don't remember which one exactly. But, I do know how to make those types of sounds. If i were to try to make one of these darker sounds in massive, do you know what waveforms, or wavetables are best for the darker kind of wobbles? There are a few that are good for reese's and distorted basses, but there not quiet as dark as the one I usually here on DarkstepWarrior (YT channel)

[mthrfnk]

My interpreation of the phrase "darkstep" haha:
Soundcloud

[sunny_b_uk]

i dont use massive for these type of sounds although its certainly doable with added fx.. it wont sound organic enough just relying on massive alone since massive is a bit too digital sounding & tbh PLENTY of automation is involved to get it to sound right and a tiny bit of resampling.. also layering if u want.
i just make a standard reese (or any basic waveform without detuning) then automate distortion, a flanger or two, a phaser, eq (notchs and few peaks) & lastly waveshape/distort. its all about what distortion your using (waveshapers are very flexible) also use eq before and after the distortion for more control of the timbre.
at the end do some random lowpass/bandpass/highpass occasionally automated through.
the rest is arrangement + bouncing to audio and retriggering certain parts of the sound/reversing it also adds more interesting movement.
lastly i love using vocodex in FL for dark reeses its awesome.
i guarantee in just one attempt of trying all this it will not work perfectly but don't give up and keep experimenting!
its all about how you fine tweak the parameters & finding sweet spots

[IamDroid]

i dont use massive for these type of sounds although its certainly doable with added fx.. it wont sound organic enough just relying on massive alone since massive is a bit too digital sounding & tbh PLENTY of automation is involved to get it to sound right and a tiny bit of resampling.. also layering if u want.
i just make a standard reese (or any basic waveform without detuning) then automate distortion, a flanger or two, a phaser, eq (notchs and few peaks) & lastly waveshape/distort. its all about what distortion your using (waveshapers are very flexible) also use eq before and after the distortion for more control of the timbre.
at the end do some random lowpass/bandpass/highpass occasionally automated through.
the rest is arrangement + bouncing to audio and retriggering certain parts of the sound/reversing it also adds more interesting movement.
lastly i love using vocodex in FL for dark reeses its awesome.
i guarantee in just one attempt of trying all this it will not work perfectly but don't give up and keep experimenting!
its all about how you fine tweak the parameters & finding sweet spots

Okay good you use fl, what do you mean by waveshaper? I understand that is a distortion term, but what vst can do this particular type of distortion? Could you please elaborate. I love using vocodox as well, its fucking crazy for growl synth.
And also just so i'm clear this is the process for making one of these sounds: Reese bass (Detuned/not detuned, consisting of Saw,sine or triangle waves)-->Eq-->Add Phaser (could be more than one) --> Add Flanger (could be more than one)--> Eq Again?? (is it necessary? at this point that is) --> Add Distortion (Camelphat/crusher? Blood overdrive? WHAT ARE GOOD PLUGINS FOR THIS) --> EQ AGAIN? Or don't and instead add and automate HP/LP/BS Filters?

Have you tried granular synthesis by any chance. I would like to experiment with the granulizer and maybe some other outside granular synthesis in the future, but i'm not exactly sure what type of sound I would use to resample when use that type of synthesis. Maybe a reese bass? idk.

[mthrfnk]

Okay good you use fl, what do you mean by waveshaper? I understand that is a distortion term, but what vst can do this particular type of distortion? Could you please elaborate. I love using vocodox as well, its fucking crazy for growl synth.
And also just so i'm clear this is the process for making one of these sounds: Reese bass (Detuned/not detuned, consisting of Saw,sine or triangle waves)-->Eq-->Add Phaser (could be more than one) --> Add Flanger (could be more than one)--> Eq Again?? (is it necessary? at this point that is) --> Add Distortion (Camelphat/crusher? Blood overdrive? WHAT ARE GOOD PLUGINS FOR THIS) --> EQ AGAIN? Or don't and instead add and automate HP/LP/BS Filters?

Have you tried granular synthesis by any chance. I would like to experiment with the granulizer and maybe some other outside granular synthesis in the future, but i'm not exactly sure what type of sound I would use to resample when use that type of synthesis. Maybe a reese bass? idk.

Fruity WaveShaper lol.

If you're interested in reeses, and granulisation, check out the reese bass thread - lots of people (inc. me) have posted a lot of info/guides.

[IamDroid]

Okay good you use fl, what do you mean by waveshaper? I understand that is a distortion term, but what vst can do this particular type of distortion? Could you please elaborate. I love using vocodox as well, its fucking crazy for growl synth.
And also just so i'm clear this is the process for making one of these sounds: Reese bass (Detuned/not detuned, consisting of Saw,sine or triangle waves)-->Eq-->Add Phaser (could be more than one) --> Add Flanger (could be more than one)--> Eq Again?? (is it necessary? at this point that is) --> Add Distortion (Camelphat/crusher? Blood overdrive? WHAT ARE GOOD PLUGINS FOR THIS) --> EQ AGAIN? Or don't and instead add and automate HP/LP/BS Filters?

Have you tried granular synthesis by any chance. I would like to experiment with the granulizer and maybe some other outside granular synthesis in the future, but i'm not exactly sure what type of sound I would use to resample when use that type of synthesis. Maybe a reese bass? idk.

Fruity WaveShaper lol.

If you're interested in reeses, and granulisation, check out the reese bass thread - lots of people (inc. me) have posted a lot of info/guides.

Lol the waveshaper.... ritee. I have no idea how to use that plugin though. And yes, I have been following the reese and growl bass threads for about two or so weeks now. Lots of good stuff on their, I plan on reading the entire post from the begging very soon.

[mthrfnk]

Okay good you use fl, what do you mean by waveshaper? I understand that is a distortion term, but what vst can do this particular type of distortion? Could you please elaborate. I love using vocodox as well, its fucking crazy for growl synth.
And also just so i'm clear this is the process for making one of these sounds: Reese bass (Detuned/not detuned, consisting of Saw,sine or triangle waves)-->Eq-->Add Phaser (could be more than one) --> Add Flanger (could be more than one)--> Eq Again?? (is it necessary? at this point that is) --> Add Distortion (Camelphat/crusher? Blood overdrive? WHAT ARE GOOD PLUGINS FOR THIS) --> EQ AGAIN? Or don't and instead add and automate HP/LP/BS Filters?

Have you tried granular synthesis by any chance. I would like to experiment with the granulizer and maybe some other outside granular synthesis in the future, but i'm not exactly sure what type of sound I would use to resample when use that type of synthesis. Maybe a reese bass? idk.

Fruity WaveShaper lol.

If you're interested in reeses, and granulisation, check out the reese bass thread - lots of people (inc. me) have posted a lot of info/guides.

Lol the waveshaper.... ritee. I have no idea how to use that plugin though. And yes, I have been following the reese and growl bass threads for about two or so weeks now. Lots of good stuff on their, I plan on reading the entire post from the begging very soon.

You posted about granuisation too, I wrote a little thing a while back about FL Granuliser - can definitely do some good things to reeses

[IamDroid]

Okay good you use fl, what do you mean by waveshaper? I understand that is a distortion term, but what vst can do this particular type of distortion? Could you please elaborate. I love using vocodox as well, its fucking crazy for growl synth.
And also just so i'm clear this is the process for making one of these sounds: Reese bass (Detuned/not detuned, consisting of Saw,sine or triangle waves)-->Eq-->Add Phaser (could be more than one) --> Add Flanger (could be more than one)--> Eq Again?? (is it necessary? at this point that is) --> Add Distortion (Camelphat/crusher? Blood overdrive? WHAT ARE GOOD PLUGINS FOR THIS) --> EQ AGAIN? Or don't and instead add and automate HP/LP/BS Filters?

Have you tried granular synthesis by any chance. I would like to experiment with the granulizer and maybe some other outside granular synthesis in the future, but i'm not exactly sure what type of sound I would use to resample when use that type of synthesis. Maybe a reese bass? idk.

Fruity WaveShaper lol.

If you're interested in reeses, and granulisation, check out the reese bass thread - lots of people (inc. me) have posted a lot of info/guides.

Lol the waveshaper.... ritee. I have no idea how to use that plugin though. And yes, I have been following the reese and growl bass threads for about two or so weeks now. Lots of good stuff on their, I plan on reading the entire post from the begging very soon.

You posted about granuisation too, I wrote a little thing a while back about FL Granuliser - can definitely do some good things to reeses

Alright well, hopefully the reese forum can help me make these types of sounds. Thanks man.

[Umea]

Does anyone know how to make a generic darkstep wobble? It could anything from a bass wooble to a mid to high range scream/squeal wobble. For example the sound in the video above at 0:56 (it comes directly after the first intro growl bass in the drop) something like that. I'm trying to enter the darkstep genre, and I really like the sounds artist like Rekoil, Exude, TrollPhace, etc, use in their darkstep songs. Any help whatsoever would be awesome. Thanks.

actually just try to do a scream filter with a very sharp envelope at the cutoff, then a bitcrusher and so on
found this : http://www.dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=117253
chainsaw caligraphy got a smiliar bass as i know, try to customize etc

[Umea]

Oh my fkin god
ever heart a wetwob like this?
i really want to know how to get a wobble like that. so wet and bubbly


well i use massive and i dont think that its possible to recreate sth like this ... any tips?

[wolf89]

oi darkstep is limewax, hidden, current value etc you mug

[IamDroid]

Does anyone know how to make a generic darkstep wobble? It could anything from a bass wooble to a mid to high range scream/squeal wobble. For example the sound in the video above at 0:56 (it comes directly after the first intro growl bass in the drop) something like that. I'm trying to enter the darkstep genre, and I really like the sounds artist like Rekoil, Exude, TrollPhace, etc, use in their darkstep songs. Any help whatsoever would be awesome. Thanks.

actually just try to do a scream filter with a very sharp envelope at the cutoff, then a bitcrusher and so on
found this : http://www.dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=117253
chainsaw caligraphy got a smiliar bass as i know, try to customize etc

Thanks man appreciate the guidance.

[antman]

Oh my fkin god
ever heart a wetwob like this?
i really want to know how to get a wobble like that. so wet and bubbly


well i use massive and i dont think that its possible to recreate sth like this ... any tips?

JUST about to post this tune.

+1

[Umea]

Oh my fkin god
ever heart a wetwob like this?
i really want to know how to get a wobble like that. so wet and bubbly


well i use massive and i dont think that its possible to recreate sth like this ... any tips?

JUST about to post this tune.

+1

in air pressure converted awesomeness mate

[Thoughtcrime]

EZ, anyone know how to make the old school wub sounds? It sounds very resonant and wet, no real clue but it's a sound i've been craving for a while and can't get my head around, i can make 90% of the brostep sounds but this old school stuff gets me gassed.





Any inclination or advice would be a big help! Cheers!

[Augment]

First one is a square wave with a lowpass filter on it. Automate lfo, maybe turn up the resonance a bit