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Post by wizard » Wed Oct 17, 2007 7:21 pm

ask a few of your dj mates also
coz you can have a listen to those
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Post by ascend » Fri Oct 19, 2007 10:57 am

forensix (mcr) wrote:Sennheiser HD-25
Amen!!!!!

I hate everything else after using these for 5 or so years..

I've never had a problem hearing/cueing anything at a club, no matter how loud the monitors are, best.. headphones.. ever... IMO of course!
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Post by breakbait » Fri Oct 19, 2007 12:31 pm

forensix (mcr) wrote:Sennheiser HD-25
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Post by gravious » Fri Oct 19, 2007 1:45 pm

Slim wrote:Are any headphones good enough to use instead of nearfield monitors? I would love this to be true, as i am about to move into either uni halls or rented accomodation, neither of which i am convinced would be too keen on me treating their walls / blasting sound from monitors at all kind of hours.

I suspect though, having read many a "wtf did you mix this with headphones or something" comment in the dubs section, or the equivalent elsewhere that this isn't the case.
You can mix down in headphones. You just have to get used to their soundnad limitations, and listen to the mixdowns you've done on lots of different systems when you get a chance (this is always a good idea, even more so with phones).

Also, I reckon your ears probably need more rests when you are producing thru phones than with speakers. I've done a lot of producing in my headphones over the years, and its still surprising how often you shut down the sequencer project for ten minutes, get a drink, check mails, and then come back to it and it sounds shite!

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Post by two oh one » Fri Oct 19, 2007 4:05 pm

gravious wrote:
Slim wrote:Are any headphones good enough to use instead of nearfield monitors? I would love this to be true, as i am about to move into either uni halls or rented accomodation, neither of which i am convinced would be too keen on me treating their walls / blasting sound from monitors at all kind of hours.

I suspect though, having read many a "wtf did you mix this with headphones or something" comment in the dubs section, or the equivalent elsewhere that this isn't the case.
You can mix down in headphones. You just have to get used to their soundnad limitations, and listen to the mixdowns you've done on lots of different systems when you get a chance (this is always a good idea, even more so with phones).

Also, I reckon your ears probably need more rests when you are producing thru phones than with speakers. I've done a lot of producing in my headphones over the years, and its still surprising how often you shut down the sequencer project for ten minutes, get a drink, check mails, and then come back to it and it sounds shite!
The Ultrasones slim has will solve a lot of probs associated with headphone mixes because they work differently.

You don't need to blast them very loud at all due to the way they produce bass, so you don't get so fatigued. You can play these extra, extra quiet. I agree -Breaks are always good, though. You just might need less of them with Ultrasones.

I'd say the 750s have been amazingly translatable and I wouldn't have thought any headphone (at any price) would be able to produce a translatable mix if you asked me last year.

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Post by overcast radio » Tue Oct 23, 2007 12:03 am

ATH-M40fs are awesome flat response headphones. They go down to 5 Hz! Do not mix with them...you'll think yr kik drum is retardedly huge, tonal, almost a discreet bassline. IMO, you cannot mix on phones at all. But for refrence, sure. Check yr mixes on whatever you listen to music most on like yr Bose Triports or whatever. But those M40fs just sound great...closed cups too.
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Post by overcast radio » Tue Oct 30, 2007 3:49 pm

Not that anyone said anything...I agree you can mix on phones certain aspects of the mix (image, and spotting errors, etc)...definitely a good piece of the puzzle! But music with heavy bass...it's so easy to be fooled into thinking yr bass track is huge on 2" speakers 1/2" away from yr ears!
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Post by bowzer » Tue Oct 30, 2007 5:55 pm

i've been in the market for some new headphones as both my sony mdr-v700's have duct tape holding the ears together. after reading this i've decided im going to get 2 new pairs of headphones... ones for dj'ing and ones for producing...

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Sennheiser HD 25-1 II

producing
ultrasone PROLINE 750

anyone know what the average price is to buy these?
or what place has the best deals?

thanks!

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Post by overcast radio » Tue Oct 30, 2007 8:41 pm

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Post by overcast radio » Tue Oct 30, 2007 8:57 pm

Those 750's are $399 MSRP! Get those ATM-40fs ones I talked about...they sound great and they're 80 bucks. IMO, headphones are like wine glasses...just a matter of time before they break. Esp. live rig ones. If sound quality isn't an issue you can always get the Direct Sound Extreme Isolation phones...

http://www.extremeheadphones.com

They are ugly, and don't sound good (maybe these upgrades are better than the originals I had) but they block out everything. You could go to the range with them.
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Post by two oh one » Tue Oct 30, 2007 9:06 pm

Those 750s are a steal, considering how good they sound. Everything else now sounds like trash to me. Nothing comes close because they just don't reproduce sound the same way.

I have the extreme isolation headphones and they do indeed sound terrible. Probably the worst headphones I've ever tried. I use them for tracking my vocalists.
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Post by overcast radio » Wed Oct 31, 2007 3:55 pm

I hear you...get a loaner/demo, or make sure they take returns on headphones (might not). I've seen both phones we're talking about (M40s and 750's) in "worst purchase ever" threads...headphones are not as important to me than good monitoring...Good luck with them! And yeah, my isolation phones are all broken and forgotten...they are only good for blocking out noise.
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Post by vadarfone » Thu Nov 01, 2007 2:34 pm

Senheisser HD650 are the only way to go.

You will have a heart attack when you shove a decent track through these bastards.

They really take me to another world.

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Post by overcast radio » Thu Nov 01, 2007 3:39 pm

Those are like $500 right...they must sound sick for that much. I should go listen to these, hear what I'm missing.
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Post by mordacai » Thu Nov 01, 2007 11:34 pm

Osk wrote:Reckon those Sennheiser ones are the best man cos you don't get too much bass. And for this kind of music where you mix off the highs and snares, that's ideal.

I've used things like Sony MDRV700s or whatever - 120 quid - and they aren't as good; better for listening, but not for DJing.
i love the sony mdv700s but you doo have to watch out they tend to break around where the ear pice connects to the head band. fine line tape befor they break work's realy well to prevent this.

you can find them at any best buy and i beleve they come with a life time warrenty
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