The Hendrix, Pink Floyd of our generation?

kidshuffle · Post by **kidshuffle** » Sat Jul 05, 2014 10:37 pm

He did make black skinhead so yeh bro we kno

m8son666 · Post by **m8son666** » Sat Jul 05, 2014 10:38 pm

i think i would rather have a beer with hitler tbh

Harkat · Post by **Harkat** » Sat Jul 05, 2014 10:42 pm

Beer with hitler deserves its own thread

What questions would you ask etc

OGLemon · Post by **OGLemon** » Sat Jul 05, 2014 10:43 pm

Um Mr. Führer sir, is it true that you only have one testicle?

Genevieve · Post by **Genevieve** » Sat Jul 05, 2014 10:47 pm

Kanye will be remembered as an innovator, but the truth is that he listens to what's hot in the underground and brings his own appropriation of it to the mainstream.

Harkat · Post by **Harkat** » Sat Jul 05, 2014 10:58 pm

Genevieve wrote:Kanye will be remembered as an innovator, but the truth is that he listens to what's hot in the underground and brings his own appropriation of it to the mainstream.

Very true. He's really good at it though, and I think it has a positive effect on music as a whole.

nousd · Post by **nousd** » Sun Jul 06, 2014 2:38 am

^like Bowie did

today's Hendrix re style, innovation and skill?
ain't none partly because of the time his musical life and his melding of influences
(Frank Zappa missed the big band input & John MacLachlin became too narrow-minded))

today's Pink Floyd re style and big-show iconography?
taking into account their English prog-rock (e.g. Barclay James Harvest) and German electronic influences
maybe Animal Collective or Muse...but drawing a long bow.

mks · Post by **mks** » Sun Jul 06, 2014 2:43 am

sd5, peeps will have no idea what you are talking about if you mention John McLaughlin on this board.

I don't know.

Prove me wrong.

dickman69 · Post by **dickman69** » Sun Jul 06, 2014 2:55 am

lol @ kendrick lamar

Jizz · Post by **Jizz** » Sun Jul 06, 2014 3:16 am

I was thinking kendrick's more like 2Pac

But anyway ive realized this was a silly question to ask

Harkat · Post by **Harkat** » Sun Jul 06, 2014 9:33 am

FFS Muse

Muse is so corny

Johoosh · Post by **Johoosh** » Sun Jul 06, 2014 10:23 am

Im sorry no.

Kanye West can absolutely do 1.

He isnt forward thinking at all and his bars are shit & hes a grade A wanker.

Ppl big up his productions but tbh never heard anything by him id rate higher than decent. Yeezus was potentially the most noshed off record and it was bait

Sorry just have no love for the man at all

m8son666 · Post by **m8son666** » Sun Jul 06, 2014 10:23 am

jaydot · Post by **jaydot** » Sun Jul 06, 2014 10:29 am

Noel Gallagher

Genevieve · Post by **Genevieve** » Sun Jul 06, 2014 11:16 am

I think Kanye's influence is massively overstated. He's a huge celebrity and a huge figure in music, but I don't think he's set any musical trends at all. Again, he just followed and appropriated them.

Madlib, Dilla and DJ Paul have a much bigger influence on contemporary hip-hop. And Dr. Dre's, Timbaland's and the Neptunes' influences are still as present as ever.

I'm not saying that Madlib, Dilla or Paul are bigger than Kanye, though. I certaintly don't believe they are. But stylistically, their influence is far more wide reaching than Kanye's.

Samuel_L_Damnson · Post by **Samuel_L_Damnson** » Sun Jul 06, 2014 11:26 am

I don't get why kanye is so influential.

m8son666 · Post by **m8son666** » Sun Jul 06, 2014 11:27 am

he's not at all.

people just buy into the narcissistic bullshit he's constantly spouting and start believing what he says

Harkat · Post by **Harkat** » Sun Jul 06, 2014 11:50 am

Genevieve wrote:I think Kanye's influence is massively overstated. He's a huge celebrity and a huge figure in music, but I don't think he's set any musical trends at all. Again, he just followed and appropriated them.

Madlib, Dilla and DJ Paul have a much bigger influence on contemporary hip-hop. And Dr. Dre's, Timbaland's and the Neptunes' influences are still as present as ever.

I'm not saying that Madlib, Dilla or Paul are bigger than Kanye, though. I certaintly don't believe they are. But stylistically, their influence is far more wide reaching than Kanye's.

You're mostly right. Especially big up DJ Paul, should be as talked about as dilla IMO.

But that's not OP's question.

Also, Dre style beats are completely gone from contemporary hip hop aren't they?

m8son666 · Post by **m8son666** » Sun Jul 06, 2014 11:52 am

yh but i am also sure op's question isn't 'who is the most up himself wanker in music nowadays'

Jizz · Post by **Jizz** » Sun Jul 06, 2014 12:04 pm

Kanye's College Dropout came out when hiphop on the whole was in quite a terrible state. That set him up for a good few years in music. Geneveev nailed it when he said hes not an innovator as such, but hes always had an ear for whats hot. Especially in hiphop, a genre based on the ideal of sampling each other, i find it hard to blame what kanye does in this respect.

He is a twat. But who else in recent years has done an album that is just as fuckin vast as My Beautiful Twisted Dark Fantasy (other than maybe bjork's attempt with biophilia... but certainly no one in hiphop)? In a certain way, it does remind me of Floyd, the sheer amount of (yes, narcissistic) vision involved in both dark side of moon and dark twisted fantasy

Having said all this, Im not his biggest fan tbh

lyrically hes gone down the drain and i cant stand his ego now. On the whole, i wouldnt like to call him our Floyd, no; that was just a suggestion. But i respect his work, he definitely deserves to be a suggestion imo

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