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Re: Dubstep Swing/Groove?
Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 1:32 pm
by serox
smudge wrote:What swing setting are you guys using for your tracks? Do you have say a 45% swing on your 16th notes and a 45% on your (half time) 8th notes? Or are you keeping everything strictly quantised and using velocity to make things groove?
swing/groove is nothing I ever used when trying to make techno so I have kind of ignored it. I will give it a go with Dubstep later but at the moment I still just use velocity to try and help with the groove.
Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 8:00 pm
by osk
@Shonky:
Say I have a MIDI region of hats quantised on the 8th notes - what happens to those notes when a groove template is applied? Do they all change position, or do they just move slightly and take on the feel of the template?
Surely it doesn't totally reprogram the hats? Or maybe it does. Still yet to experiment with this on Logic. Reckon now is the time.
Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 10:32 pm
by shonky
Osk wrote:@Shonky:
Say I have a MIDI region of hats quantised on the 8th notes - what happens to those notes when a groove template is applied? Do they all change position, or do they just move slightly and take on the feel of the template?
Surely it doesn't totally reprogram the hats? Or maybe it does. Still yet to experiment with this on Logic. Reckon now is the time.
The groove template will basically be all of the drum hits from the break or pattern you used to make the groove template, so it will basically shift your notes to the nearest potential part of the groove. Had this trouble before trying to sync a hi-hat to a template that didn't have a hit in that space.
Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 11:13 pm
by auan
Shonky wrote:Osk wrote:@Shonky:
Say I have a MIDI region of hats quantised on the 8th notes - what happens to those notes when a groove template is applied? Do they all change position, or do they just move slightly and take on the feel of the template?
Surely it doesn't totally reprogram the hats? Or maybe it does. Still yet to experiment with this on Logic. Reckon now is the time.
The groove template will basically be all of the drum hits from the break or pattern you used to make the groove template, so it will basically shift your notes to the nearest potential part of the groove. Had this trouble before trying to sync a hi-hat to a template that didn't have a hit in that space.
Switch quantize off, drag it to what looks roughly in between the two hits, lower the velocity to make it a ghost hit.
Bada-bing, bada-bam, as your avatar would say.
Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 2:52 pm
by fnordy
Shonky wrote:Don't know if you can do this in your sequencer, but in Logic you can create a groove template from your drums and then apply that to your other instruments. If you're using separate midi channels for snares, kicks and hats, take the 8 bar loop you're using, glue it together and then take the groove from that and then mute that track. When you click down the quantize list you'll see the template there and you can apply it to your other tracks.
Also if you do want to change the groove, you can just change the hits in the muted template and it'll automatically change all other hits to the new changes.
That's amazing, just what I need. Gotta check if you can do that in Live...