Dub, and dub influenced dubstep

use your brain · Post by **use your brain** » Thu Feb 14, 2008 3:19 pm

coki - soundboy
this n is huge fo me_

random trio · Post by **random trio** » Thu Feb 14, 2008 7:34 pm

Whispers on forthcoming RTP004 is more on the dubby tip. Fools day on 3.5 maybe. check out www.myspoace.com/randomtrio for more info

automat3000 · Post by **automat3000** » Wed Sep 24, 2008 10:49 pm

[quote="7""]Mala
RSD

for the Dub itself there are King Tubby, Scratch Perry, King\Prince Jammy, Scientist, Augustus Pablo, U-Roy...

Dubwise![/quote]

I'm gonna ruffle a few feathers and say forget about those guys. Their stuff hasn't aged well at all. Where it's been at for a while is European dub (tends to take more influences from dnb, electro and breaks, and all the better for it).

Everyone on this forum should know about Disrupt's album Foundation Bit (and if not, shame on you). But don't stop there, steer yourself towards www.jahtari.org for loads of free 8-bit dubby lovliness. Best net label on the web imo. Also pick up "Jahtarian Dubbers Vol. 1" just released from the same camp. Seriously heavy stuff.

Also the Different Drummer label: esp. Richard Dorfmeister's 'Different Drummer Selection' cd. Aswell as artists like:

Rootah
Blue Vitriol
G-Corp
Rocker's Hifi
International Observer
Tosca
Al Haca Soundsystem
Dubblestandart
Smith & Mighty

Plus the Hi-Fidelity Dub Sessions series.

I'm working my way through the above right now in fact, and loving every bit of it. Sos the lack of dubstep, but i've pretty much given up now. Dub has all but vanished from it. It's a good thing i've gotten into the techno/hessle/bristol and 2-step revival stuff from trg/martyn and the like, otherwise i'm not sure i'd even be listening to dubstep outside of a club anymore! RSD sounds good though. I'll defo check him out.

Oh, and yeah, don't expect any dub sounds from anything Rusko's done for a while. He now seems to be the king of wobble. However he happen to come out with the best dub / dubby dubstep mix i've ever heard. Be sure to pick this up:

Rusko's 'My Dub is Heavy' @ Radioluz (26 Mar 07)

http://www.divshare.com/download/launch/344905-246

It's mostly all Rusko dubs infact. I wish he went back to that style.

frodo · Post by **frodo** » Wed Sep 24, 2008 11:11 pm

automat3000 wrote:I'm gonna ruffle a few feathers and say forget about those guys. Their stuff hasn't aged well at all.

Fucking hell..

And FYI, RSD is actually Smith from Smith & Mighty.

alphacat · Post by **alphacat** » Wed Sep 24, 2008 11:31 pm

Wait - King Tubby "hasn't aged well at all"... ?!

DEAD FUCKING WRONG MAN. Tubby's tracks hold up very, very well to the test of time, unlike much nu-skool dub from even 10 years ago. Not to say that there's not good new stuff out there, but IMHO your statement is like saying "oh sure, you can listen to the Beatles - but they're so last year! Check out Madonna instead!"

automat3000 · Post by **automat3000** » Wed Sep 24, 2008 11:44 pm

Not at all. (You didn't seriously site Madonna as a modern equivalent of the Beatles there did you? I hope not). Unlike rock, which hasn't significantly progressed technologically in the last 40 years due to the very nature of its production, dub is is an electronic form of music and the limits to which producers can achieve are increasing all the time. It's the reason why we can listen to dubstep now, but it wouldn't have been possible not that long ago.

I'm not completely dismissing King Tubby et al. They have produced superb music that is still enjoyable today, and if you want that pure reggae dub sound, there's none better. I just think they've been surpassed, naturally, by artists since. They drew up the blueprints for dub, and without them where would we be? But it's 2008 now. Jamaicans have been set in their ways for years now, while we Europeans have mastered the art of making music with the computer, and it's all the better for it.

Frodo wrote:Fucking hell..

And FYI, RSD is actually Smith from Smith & Mighty.

Oh right, shows how much i know then lol

cixxxj · Post by **cixxxj** » Thu Sep 25, 2008 8:11 am

testap wrote:rusko, clouds, quest and that infiltrata's new tune. what is it called? goes like "... love for your fellow human ..."

12th planet - Just Cool out on Argon

quite surprised noone has mentioned CLOUDS outta Finland!!!

Their latest in Jahtari is TOO MUCH! and what about that another tune by them called 'too much' so? That track is perfect, 50% dub 50% dubstep for the better! Steppa rhythms and dubstep layers on those, dont know how to explain well, audio here http://dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=59206

human? · Post by **human?** » Thu Sep 25, 2008 8:56 am

automat3000 wrote:But it's 2008 now. Jamaicans have been set in their ways for years now, while we Europeans have mastered the art of making music with the computer, and it's all the better for it.

lol @ european masters... sounds more like 1643 than 2008

adam mac · Post by **adam mac** » Thu Sep 25, 2008 10:13 am

LV & Dandelion - CCTV
Silkie - Illegal Immigrant
Synkro - Jah Love
Quest - Hardfood/Mirage

dubble · Post by **dubble** » Thu Sep 25, 2008 10:14 am

plume wrote:I need more dub in my life. I was drawn to this sound mainly because of the heavy dub influenced tunes

I always just go back to them once in a while to reminisce

rodazlan · Post by **rodazlan** » Thu Sep 25, 2008 12:13 pm

Clouds (His Dub Box is stacked with riddim)
Rusko dubwise is high grade.
RSD - Full respect everytime
Synkro is pushing through with the new riddims

JA to the UK and the world man can't dismiss years upon years of history.
Lee Perry, Keith Hudson are foundation experimental producers who have and continue to inspire (FREE) minds even now.

UK has been pivotal in DUB techniques pushing into genres other than Reggae
Dennis Bovell and Mad Professor are a couple of guys who are directly involved.

I think the Live instruments Versus computer based Digital style is over, It's all music and the sound is a preference.

"Come on let's Dub it up"

executive steve · Post by **executive steve** » Thu Sep 25, 2008 12:25 pm

pinch - chamber dub

good call on DISRUPT and the JAHTARI stuff, i find it pretty hard to disagree with those points too, although out of respect to the foundation i don't think they're ever points i myself would dare make.

also - i can't BELIEVE there's been no mention of Scion, Rhythm & Sound etc...

nousd · Post by **nousd** » Thu Sep 25, 2008 1:04 pm

^Rhythm & Sound would be assumed knowledge I reckon.

I'm nostalgic for a good roller meself
like Darquwan's "Maximum Respect"
what Caspa, Hatcha, elB useta do.
Agree with having an ear out for dubby sound
seeking relief from insistent techstep.

deeps · Post by **deeps** » Thu Sep 25, 2008 2:48 pm

Check out some back to basics dubs:

http://www.discogs.com/label/Reggae+On+Top

lord dubious · Post by **lord dubious** » Sat Sep 27, 2008 8:11 pm

Each and every Thursday, dropping classic dub and dubstep:

http://www.dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=46544

saxon · Post by **saxon** » Sat Sep 27, 2008 8:20 pm

disrupt?
Edit: just clocked someone had mentioned

Bluetech?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nB3kaviE ... re=related

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