edgar cayce/the shift

[silentk]

basically religion is blind people looking for truth, and englightenment is when you don't need to look or guess or hypothesize anymore.

sounds like my kinda enlightenment.
understand what you have. before looking to what you don't.

well i don't mean merely accepting that you don't know like agnosticism

i'm talking about finally knowing and therefore no longer seeking

i think "enlightenment" will only come once you have accepted that enlightenment its self is nothing but an ideology, that can never truly be reached

[parson]

basically religion is blind people looking for truth, and englightenment is when you don't need to look or guess or hypothesize anymore.

sounds like my kinda enlightenment.
understand what you have. before looking to what you don't.

well i don't mean merely accepting that you don't know like agnosticism

i'm talking about finally knowing and therefore no longer seeking

i think "enlightenment" will only come once you have accepted that enlightenment its self is nothing but an ideology, that can never truly be reached

i think conclusions like that are what you come to when you're too lazy to learn the value of meditation

[jah wobble]

imo theres a lot of human egoism/chauvinism in a lot of these shift theories. not to say that magnetic pole shifts or other things that would affect neurological processes won't happen, but i just don't think humans are all that important to the universe as a whole for any of these ideas to matter. i don't see humans as much more than super germs for the most part. i'd love to be proven wrong though.

[pk-]

basically religion is blind people looking for truth, and englightenment is when you don't need to look or guess or hypothesize anymore.

sounds like my kinda enlightenment.
understand what you have. before looking to what you don't.

well i don't mean merely accepting that you don't know like agnosticism

i'm talking about finally knowing and therefore no longer seeking

that's an impossible state to reach

[parson]

who is to say that germs aren't important

[parson]

basically religion is blind people looking for truth, and englightenment is when you don't need to look or guess or hypothesize anymore.

sounds like my kinda enlightenment.
understand what you have. before looking to what you don't.

well i don't mean merely accepting that you don't know like agnosticism

i'm talking about finally knowing and therefore no longer seeking

that's an impossible state to reach

says the guy who doesn't meditate

[silentk]

basically religion is blind people looking for truth, and englightenment is when you don't need to look or guess or hypothesize anymore.

sounds like my kinda enlightenment.
understand what you have. before looking to what you don't.

well i don't mean merely accepting that you don't know like agnosticism

i'm talking about finally knowing and therefore no longer seeking

i think "enlightenment" will only come once you have accepted that enlightenment its self is nothing but an ideology, that can never truly be reached

i think conclusions like that are what you come to when you're too lazy to learn the value of meditation

true, i know nothing about meditation, the closest i ever came to meditation was taking yoga classes, we used to do a sort of relaxation/meditation thing towards the end.
i do not pretend to know much about this sort of thing (or maybe i do ), i just like to share my lay-mans veiw.

[parson]

cool.

the truth is inside though. ain't gonna find any of it in the external world

[silentk]

cool.

the truth is inside though. ain't gonna find any of it in the external world

hmm, but wont truth be reacher quicker through collaboration, and pooling of ideas and theories? some of the greatest discoveries in history would never of come to pass if it wasn't for the totaly chance involvement of more than one party?

[misk]

I dont think that any of us will be able to define enlightenment with our human words. I dont intend to try. I do agree with parson, in that i believe in some sort of shift. I dont think it will be quite so sudden, as i've said before, change is a process, not an event.

Nonetheless, i do find this to be an exciting time to live in, and i do think we are all here for a reason. In response to shonky's statement about the silliness of past life regression, i do agree with you sir. there are a lot of quacks out there - who wish nothing more than to part a fool with their money.

Though i have memories that i have uncovered, and i find that far too often, myself, and the others around me who have memories of past lives, tend to be much more mundane than cleopatra or napoleon. I've been a soldier many times, as well as a slave. I've lived in the middle east relatively recently as a matter of fact. We tend to get rather stuck in a rut for a few thousand lifetimes here and there, i find. Ironically, i spent a lot of time in the crusades and the catholic church as well .

I dont know what this "shift" will bring, but i feel that it wont occur in one short year. What i dont understand is how personally you all take your opinions about these things. Its not as if we are the opinions we attempt to define ourselves with.


take it or leave it?

[parson]

you keep lyin n tryin

denyin the call from inside

you can't hide respsponsibility

so decide from today just how its gonna be

thou shall have no other god but ME

he can set you free, see

but you have to listen

and who's the false idols i see you kissin?

money, success and untold wealth, good health

and all you had to do was love yourself

its a fact you'll attract to all the things that you lack

so just chillll and get off the race track

and take a pace back, face facts

its your decision

you don't need eyes to see

you need vision

continue to view the lord as being separated

and you're living a lie that's been perpetrated

for many centuries

i gotta mention these

facts in my rap

huh

i don't sing

but i have to share the peace that it brings

my name is G.O.D. The Grand Oral Disseminator

[misk]

cool.

the truth is inside though. ain't gonna find any of it in the external world

hmm, but wont truth be reacher quicker through collaboration, and pooling of ideas and theories? some of the greatest discoveries in history would never of come to pass if it wasn't for the totaly chance involvement of more than one party?

I agree! isnt it amazing? the beauty of synchronicity, and the pure grace of a new thought being born within the mind of 1000 genius' around the globe at the exact same time. we only need to listen.

[parson]

cool.

the truth is inside though. ain't gonna find any of it in the external world

hmm, but wont truth be reacher quicker through collaboration, and pooling of ideas and theories? some of the greatest discoveries in history would never of come to pass if it wasn't for the totaly chance involvement of more than one party?

nah. thats the opposite of what i'm saying.

[jah wobble]

who is to say that germs aren't important

exactly. who am i to say? i think i'm just playing a small part in a bigger theater. super germ or not, i've got my place. i just think all i got is now so i gotta make the now as peaceful as i can and can't worry or speculate about some huge shift in some future now.

interesting theories though. i especially like the ideas of the human population approaching the number of cells in a human brain. some kind of huge mother brain type thing going on.

[shonky]

We tend to get rather stuck in a rut for a few thousand lifetimes here and there, i find.

Shit - I was hoping I only had 30 more years and now I found I've got thousands of the bastards.

Not good

[bashment dan]

imho people have to just be patient and wait for the gradual progression in scientific knowledge to understand the ultimate 'theory of everything'.personally i dont think the human mind is near capable of understanding a lot of the phenomena in the universe(quantum mechanics and higher dimensions etc)but through technological evolution and future thinkers we will inevitable get there.to say you can be all knowing through meditation is unrealistic but im not dismissing that it has real worth as a field of scientific study.

[parson]

of course people working together towards a common goal is good. its the way to make change happen.

i'm talking about finding truth though. not going to find truth from each other. got to find that inside.

[bellybelle]

1. i don't know why a revolution of consciousness is religious. i don't believe spiritual awakening is synonymous with religion. religion is there to control individuals. spirituality is between the individual and the force/power/entity they honor as deity.

2. a reawakening is long over due. at some point, people have to tire of bread and circuses, which is what most of our fluffy lives consist of, no matter how important we think which girl is hot and which tune is slutty. apathy has reigned for far too long. we, as people, seem to be lacking any real passion. I think part of us will always crave it, and bring the pendulum back.

3. I don't meditate but I do dance as a form of meditation, like in the trance dancing of whirling dervishes or of Zaar rituals. But i think the place i personally had a major epiphany was in accepting who i was. Quite the existentialist mantra, "Become who you are," but in all seriousness, when I accepted who I was, it put a lot of things into perspective. However, I think most people avoid it because to admit to certain aspects of their personality would crush their delicate facade and force them into a place where they had to actively choose against mediocrity or actively accept what they fear: not being a special snowflake.

sorry...i hate the shift key

[misk]

i think the important thing to remember here is not to focus or intellectualize what *might* possibly happen, but instead to consider what we as individuals can do to help humanity move forward successfully into a new time.

[parson]

imho people have to just be patient and wait for the gradual progression in scientific knowledge to understand the ultimate 'theory of everything'.personally i dont think the human mind is near capable of understanding a lot of the phenomena in the universe(quantum mechanics and higher dimensions etc)but through technological evolution and future thinkers we will inevitable get there.to say you can be all knowing through meditation is unrealistic but im not dismissing that it has real worth as a field of scientific study.

what quantum mechanics has been describing for the past 50 years is what people meditating have been describing for thousands upon thousands