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Post by n-type » Fri Jun 09, 2006 9:54 am

[quote="Paulie"]I thought this thread was about pills.[/quote

lol!!!!


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not that i know anything about that... :?



Please sumone tell me what a double drop mix is i have no idea?? do i do it on my radio shows?? I hear loads of people taking about it in drum n bass. is it just wen 2 tracks drop together after a corus or intro?? i do that all the time.

but..

One thing i never do though is practice mixes cos i like to do freestyle all the time! thats because i find it more creative, risky and fun!

Thats my own personal opinion though, i know alot of people whould say that isnt the right thing to do...

But say u have 2 sets in the same night well if u practice the set people are goin to here the exact same set in 2 different places. u might as well play a cd and go to the bar...

I never get time to practice, i practice on radio! thats wen i get to touch the decks in the week.

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Post by kidkut » Fri Jun 09, 2006 9:58 am

i thought they were refering to li'l un's as well :lol:

Double drop for d&b is just when you have the drop from two tunes at the same time... personally im not a big fan of them, a tune should be strong enough to stand on its own... but with dubstep it does work if you eq alot so you end up with a blend rather than two subs over the top of each other.. imo

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Post by spaceboy » Fri Jun 09, 2006 10:00 am

Alex bk-bk wrote:re: original topic

this is some backpacker dnb shit.
nice and cynical!

dnb djing pisses all over dubstep imo...

i'm yet to hear a mampi swift or andy c...yunx is good out of the fwd dj's
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Post by alex bk-bk » Fri Jun 09, 2006 11:13 am

dubstep isnt really about that so much

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Post by spaceboy » Fri Jun 09, 2006 11:17 am

why not do something interesting with your mixes has always been my stance - it makes for much more listening pleasure when in the dance.

come on - u know your anticipating something when andy graces the deck...

similarly you know your expecting some clanging when grooverider touches down...
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Post by alex bk-bk » Fri Jun 09, 2006 11:54 am

i dont fuck with that shit

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Post by juliun_c90 » Fri Jun 09, 2006 12:06 pm

what the fuck's a ''double drop''?

we've established that this isn't related to recreational pharmaceuticals. are you talking about having two tracks in the mix at the same time?

dunno if i'm being stupid, but isn't this just known as 'mixing'? feel free to enlighten me if that ain't the case.
dnb djing pisses all over dubstep imo...

i'm yet to hear a mampi swift or andy c...yunx is good out of the fwd dj's
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Post by delsa » Fri Jun 09, 2006 1:02 pm

Spaceboy wrote:
come on - u know your anticipating something when andy graces the deck...
Yeah buy andy C records like 6 track double drop mega mixes on cds then drops them, that hardly worth getting excited about and it removes the point of mixing in the first place and returns to N-types point but even more so.
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Post by spaceboy » Fri Jun 09, 2006 1:07 pm

i'm just stating my case. i'm a nobody and can't mix it up. but i remember as a kid waiting for andy to get on the decks, coz u knew everytime, it was going to be special.
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Post by triac » Fri Jun 09, 2006 1:36 pm

juliun_c90 wrote:are you talking about having two tracks in the mix at the same time?

dunno if i'm being stupid, but isn't this just known as 'mixing'? feel free to enlighten me if that ain't the case.
Like what kidkut said, it's when you arrange the mix so that the bass drops on both tracks coincide. For full effect (in dnb at least), it's best done with two tracks that have dead simple breakdowns/intros with no beats, and you bring the second track in during the breakdown. So when the drop comes, which makes everyone jump about anyway, you hear a whole load of drums that you never heard before. Obviously if you don't EQ one bassline out, it will sound shit. Oh, and it's also best when the track that's playing is familiar to the crowd - they think they know what's coming with the drop, but then they get something different.
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Post by corpsey » Fri Jun 09, 2006 2:14 pm

''There's a big thing at the moment about double and triple dropping records. To me that must mean that the records on their own don't stand up too well, I like to hear a whole tune like when we used to go out and buy records and listen to the whole thing. I don't buy a Miles Davis album to be double dropped with Charlie Mingus! I wanna hear the music the way it was intended, not lost in the mix. When a lot of these tunes came out we heard them mixed in everyt single way imaginable and there's a different dynamic in tunes today than there was then. Today tunes are less melodic and more linear, and that doesn't mean it's not eclectic now or that it was more incredible back then, but there was a rolling scope to the music that I don't hear so much anymore.''- Goldie

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Post by Steve AC23 » Fri Jun 09, 2006 2:16 pm

Less of an Andy C

more of a Equinox :)

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Post by kidkut » Fri Jun 09, 2006 2:32 pm

ac23 wrote:Less of an Andy C

more of a Equinox :)
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Post by tronman » Fri Jun 09, 2006 2:54 pm

Spaceboy wrote:don't get so technical, honestly double drops become 2nd intuition after you've practiced enough.
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Post by signus » Fri Jun 09, 2006 3:05 pm

When some one double drops a mix in DnB anyway it sounds ace simply because you usually wont be expecting the other tune to come in with it. It beefs out the mix more and makes everyone go mental especially if the crowd knows both tunes.

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Post by spaceboy » Fri Jun 09, 2006 3:11 pm

Signus wrote:When some one double drops a mix in DnB anyway it sounds ace simply because you usually wont be expecting the other tune to come in with it. It beefs out the mix more and makes everyone go mental especially if the crowd knows both tunes.
i can guarantee u andy c, works out some of his drops/mixes b4hand.

those dj's who say, "im just so good i never practice, its all natural to me" are talking out of their ass. trust me.
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Post by djgyn » Fri Jun 09, 2006 3:57 pm

Mr Hyde wrote:yeah I love making and listening to dubstep but dont find mixing it as much fun as with other types of music, love mixing minimal techno- can just keep tracks playing together for huge long mixes eq'ing bits in and out or do real quick cut up styles and scratching.

and i agree with spaceboy that there arn't really any dubstep dj's that excite me much for their technical dj skills- but probably because the music doesn't really fit real technical type djing stuff- more about all about the dubs a dj has or what they have produced. need an andy c or jeff mills or dj craze of dubstep i reckon- get some more 3 deck stuff going!
I kinda agree with you on this, but as a DJ I've always been a bigger fan of track selection over technical prowess. I love spinning hard non-stop mixes, but I can definately see myself taking a somewhat different approach with dubstep.
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Post by corpsey » Fri Jun 09, 2006 4:23 pm

Double drops can be great as long as they are properly worked out and don't happen too much in a set.

Having said that, saw Mampi at Detonate rock city last year and his double drops were making my bowels release I swear lol When properly done can really kill it

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Post by brklss » Fri Jun 09, 2006 10:10 pm

Hold tight! It's nice that this thread led into a proper discussion.

I think i have to clearify my standpoint about double drop. Since i'm coming from DnB, i like a well done mix with a good track selection. But honestly, a big part of the mixes here in the mixes section aren't mixed very well and i dislike to listen to them. I really like the Vex'D, Quite Storm, Distance and Forensics mixes as they're at a good mixing skill. I know everyone has to learn and improve, so do i. I'm certanly not the best DJ and i don't claim to be. Further i don't really do much of double drops. Not in DnB and not in dubstep. I just need to put a set together because my slot on the radio is very restricted in time and i want to show the swiss audience a variety of dubstep. To add the cherry on the cake, i wanted to do a double drop on mentioned tracks as the last tracks to end. That's it :)

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