Fuck you Cubase, I'm going back to FL......

hardware, software, tips and tricks
Forum rules
By using this "Production" sub-forum, you acknowledge that you have read, understood and agreed with our terms of use for this site. Click HERE to read them. If you do not agree to our terms of use, you must exit this site immediately. We do not accept any responsibility for the content, submissions, information or links contained herein. Users posting content here, do so completely at their own risk.

Quick Link to Feedback Forum
User avatar
lucky_strike
Posts: 801
Joined: Tue Jan 03, 2006 7:02 pm

Post by lucky_strike » Thu May 22, 2008 8:34 am

Wub wrote:SCORE!


After installing my new copy of FL8, I remembered in about 3mins just how much I fucking love it.

Had a drum loop and bassline setup from scratch in under 15mins, something that would've taken at least a couple of hours to do under Cubase. Then spent the next couple of hours messing with effects.

Also loved how my Oxygen 8 autodetected and installed, plus I was able to assign rotaries for the first time in about 2 fucking years. Praise be.


:D :D :D

ummmm, your just not very good with cubase then.

Cubase is another level compared to FL. it just is.

Used Logic 8 last week tho. oh my that runs tings!

wub
Posts: 34156
Joined: Tue Feb 26, 2008 3:11 pm
Location: Madrid
Contact:

Post by wub » Thu May 22, 2008 8:38 am

LUCKY_STRIKE wrote:

ummmm, your just not very good with cubase then.

Cubase is another level compared to FL. it just is.

It wasn't the right workflow for the way I like to work.

I gave it 18months and still couldn't get a proper feel for it. FL is more intuitive for the style that I have I guess.

User avatar
dj $hy
Posts: 3409
Joined: Wed Oct 12, 2005 10:13 pm
Location: Gatwick, Hanger 16 Near Itchy Robots Hanger...
Contact:

Post by dj $hy » Thu May 22, 2008 10:32 am

Its deffo a marmite thing isnt it.

I was taught on QB so for me its natural. As Wub said he installed FL8, 15mins later had a drum n bass patteren. It takes me the same ammount of time to get something down. With templates you really can just open n start but its again what you prefer.

QB4 is THE ONE. Finally EQ's you can use! Routing with power and did I say bout the EQ's lol

My only issue is on my Virus TI I have the option of 3 x USB outs but my DAW only shows on output. I've checked my output in QB but nothing seems wrong. Anyone else had this problem?

Wub I'm glad you found your perfect match buddy! As I'm sure everyone has said its down to you n how you work.

ITs not what you use its how you use it!
http://soundcloud.com/afterdark-dubstep
New Deep one! Unsigned ATM
Soundcloud

A deep one... Dropping on Family Tree Records END OF THIS MONTH!!!!!!!
Soundcloud

User avatar
MARCHMELLOW
Posts: 979
Joined: Tue May 08, 2007 9:33 pm
Location: brighton-uk
Contact:

Post by MARCHMELLOW » Thu May 22, 2008 11:16 am

DJ $hy wrote:Its deffo a marmite thing isnt it.

I was taught on QB so for me its natural. As Wub said he installed FL8, 15mins later had a drum n bass patteren. It takes me the same ammount of time to get something down. With templates you really can just open n start but its again what you prefer.

QB4 is THE ONE. Finally EQ's you can use! Routing with power and did I say bout the EQ's lol

My only issue is on my Virus TI I have the option of 3 x USB outs but my DAW only shows on output. I've checked my output in QB but nothing seems wrong. Anyone else had this problem?

Wub I'm glad you found your perfect match buddy! As I'm sure everyone has said its down to you n how you work.

ITs not what you use its how you use it!
$hy i have the exact same problem, cubase 4 is sooo boom! BUT for some reason i should have 3 virus outputs, and i only see 1??? i can't for the life of me work it out, PLEASE let me know if you do! i hope you've been playing with atomizer... oh my days that is FUN!! "
www.soundcloud.com/marchmellowuk

Dub & Run Records/Phreaks of Nature/Wicky Lindows/BassPunch Records/Tsunami Audio/ Love Sick Records.

deadly_habit
Posts: 22980
Joined: Tue Oct 24, 2006 3:41 am
Location: MURRICA

Post by deadly_habit » Thu May 22, 2008 7:30 pm

:wink:
Image

take time and learn em all (except reason shit sux :wink: )

__________
Posts: 6338
Joined: Tue Mar 06, 2007 5:51 pm

Post by __________ » Thu May 22, 2008 8:51 pm

blah blah blah another daw thread, amazing.

use what program you want. its not the program that is good or shit, its you and how you approach that program and how logical the process of beat-making in that program seems to you

User avatar
fuzz_2k
Posts: 2717
Joined: Sun Apr 13, 2008 1:53 pm
Location: Brighton/cheltenham - UK
Contact:

Post by fuzz_2k » Sat May 24, 2008 2:32 pm

cuebase all the way 4 me!!!!!!

just got to get to know it....

User avatar
Tangka
Posts: 1003
Joined: Mon Aug 27, 2007 8:41 pm
Location: Oakland

Post by Tangka » Sun May 25, 2008 3:35 am

Legendary wrote:My workflow on FL8 is pretty fast I have been getting down drums, bass and atmosphere and that down in a hour half/hour and spending A LOT of time getting it mixed down proper, tweaking automation and that, the update to the sequencer is top notch. Ive tried Reason and now having a go with renoise, I dunno FL is just best for my work flow, I can use Reason and Renoise pretty well just FL is my baby :lol: .
Well there's the thing right there

You will spend DAYS trying to get a good mix down in Fruity whereas you could just mix all the seperate channels down into seperate wavs and port them into cubase, which is MUCH better and faster for the mixing / post production process.

Dont restrict yourselves. Take the best of both (or all) worlds.

picleweasel0
Posts: 16
Joined: Sun Jul 20, 2008 8:08 pm

Post by picleweasel0 » Sat Aug 02, 2008 8:18 pm

I always flit between different DAWs but i go back to Fruity Loops because that was my first DAW and because ive worked with it longer i know it better

slothrop
Posts: 2655
Joined: Thu Aug 24, 2006 11:59 am

Post by slothrop » Sat Aug 02, 2008 8:43 pm

Earthling wrote:You will spend DAYS trying to get a good mix down in Fruity whereas you could just mix all the seperate channels down into seperate wavs and port them into cubase, which is MUCH better and faster for the mixing / post production process.
What's different about it?

I've never really played the field in terms of DAWs, so I don't really know much about what the differences are, I just found something that pretty much works for me (EnergyXT) and stuck with it...

User avatar
feasible_weasel
Posts: 5637
Joined: Mon Feb 26, 2007 9:07 am

Post by feasible_weasel » Sat Aug 02, 2008 9:40 pm

8) I love Pro tools
with reason 4 on rewire and its godly :)
You feel like your a proffesional on that program.
fl's amazing for knocking out some beats in a hurry 8)
Macabre Unit Image

User avatar
silentk
Posts: 1234
Joined: Sun Oct 14, 2007 8:22 pm
Location: Lewisham

Post by silentk » Sat Aug 02, 2008 9:48 pm

im on FL7 atm, i have tried cubase and reason but don't like either. only problem is, im about to use a music tech course, during which i'm going to be restricted to cubase SE 3 for 2 years, it's a bit dawnting :(

only problem i have, is FL's pattern sequencing can sometimes get a bit annoying when compared to cubases more traditional sequencing method.
Soundcloud

*****************************
Free Debut Release - http://www.vektarecords.com/releases/vr002/

User avatar
feasible_weasel
Posts: 5637
Joined: Mon Feb 26, 2007 9:07 am

Post by feasible_weasel » Sat Aug 02, 2008 9:53 pm

SilentK wrote:im on FL7 atm, i have tried cubase and reason but don't like either. only problem is, im about to use a music tech course, during which i'm going to be restricted to cubase SE 3 for 2 years, it's a bit dawnting :(

only problem i have, is FL's pattern sequencing can sometimes get a bit annoying when compared to cubases more traditional sequencing method.
8) it will be good though
Macabre Unit Image

User avatar
silentk
Posts: 1234
Joined: Sun Oct 14, 2007 8:22 pm
Location: Lewisham

Post by silentk » Sat Aug 02, 2008 9:58 pm

feasible_weasel wrote:
SilentK wrote:im on FL7 atm, i have tried cubase and reason but don't like either. only problem is, im about to use a music tech course, during which i'm going to be restricted to cubase SE 3 for 2 years, it's a bit dawnting :(

only problem i have, is FL's pattern sequencing can sometimes get a bit annoying when compared to cubases more traditional sequencing method.
8) it will be good though
hopefully, u done anything similar?
Soundcloud

*****************************
Free Debut Release - http://www.vektarecords.com/releases/vr002/

Steve AC23
Posts: 898
Joined: Sun Feb 19, 2006 1:39 pm
Location: melburn ozstrailya

Post by Steve AC23 » Sun Aug 03, 2008 7:22 am

boyd wrote:
forensix (mcr) wrote:
boyd wrote:Haven't come across templates in cubase before (only got it recently), how do they work?

Cubase has been a bit of a bitch to work on but I find it better than reason and fruity having demoed them before. Though there are things that I feel should be simple that are bloody annoying to do, like assigning effects to midi tracks where you have to find a secret passageway. And even just volume mixing if you've got a load of vst's involved, the mixer turns into a metre long nightmare. I'm probably missing some shortcuts though, got a lot to learn..
To make a template create a new project and insert all the channels, fx tracks, eqs, group tracks etc that you normally use and save the project as a template then when you start a new project you can select your template

The mixer has buttons on the side to hide the midi tracks/audio tracks/instrument tracks this helps reduce the size of the mixer I normally click off the midi tracks

To assign effects to VSTi is easy go to the channel view at the left hand side of the screen open the insert panel under the instrument name and select a plug in
Thanks a lot for the help man.

Re mixer - I have hidden midi but my problem is using battery for drums, so trying to locate my kick for example will mean finding one channel out of a million sitting there doing nothing labelled battery something.. and because I use a different battery for each bit of the drum kit there are countless battery channels showing in the mixer with only about one in 20 actually doing anything. If any of that makes any sense. I see there's an option to hide channels marked as hide (or something), but I can't see how to mark the channels to hide them!

Re effects on VSTs - the method you describe is cool for audio tracks but not midi, the inserts list doesn't have any of my own effects plug-ins. I have to go into the mixer, try and locate the channel I want and click edit to then add the effect.
You only need one instance of Battery open.

In Battery

Click File --> Options.

In the bottom right corner click Audio Outputs and change to your desired outputs.

Close.

Click on your drum hit and goto the Effects Tab.

In the bottom right corner, select the channel you want to go out to.

Look in your mixer to see all the Battery outputs firing away :).

Sometimes it doesnt register properly and I found a restart of a Cubase and a new Project to make it all show up in the mixer.

----------

Re: VST Inserts.......your clicking on the wrong "e".

You need to click the bottom one, not the MIDI.

You don't have to go into the mixer :)

Image

User avatar
feasible_weasel
Posts: 5637
Joined: Mon Feb 26, 2007 9:07 am

Post by feasible_weasel » Sun Aug 03, 2008 8:13 am

SilentK wrote:
feasible_weasel wrote:
SilentK wrote:im on FL7 atm, i have tried cubase and reason but don't like either. only problem is, im about to use a music tech course, during which i'm going to be restricted to cubase SE 3 for 2 years, it's a bit dawnting :(

only problem i have, is FL's pattern sequencing can sometimes get a bit annoying when compared to cubases more traditional sequencing method.
8) it will be good though
hopefully, u done anything similar?
nope...........but learing ang daw extensively will make you better
Macabre Unit Image

.klimaxx
Posts: 82
Joined: Fri Jul 18, 2008 9:55 am
Location: London

Post by .klimaxx » Sun Aug 03, 2008 8:53 am

i'm using fl8 and cubase 4 and it's great for me!
i honestly don't know why everyone is saving up for them - get them free!

i'm still in college, so how the fuck do they expect me to pay £1000 for something like that?

seriously, i suggest you guys just download the illegal versions like i did, and use the spare cash to buy some decent hardware to help your workflow.

sunnyb
Posts: 240
Joined: Mon Sep 10, 2007 7:06 pm

Post by sunnyb » Mon Aug 04, 2008 10:35 am

Fl For producing

Cubase for recording

martello
Posts: 655
Joined: Sun Sep 09, 2007 2:46 pm
Location: Estonia

Post by martello » Mon Aug 04, 2008 3:18 pm

.klimaxx wrote:i'm using fl8 and cubase 4 and it's great for me!
i honestly don't know why everyone is saving up for them - get them free!

i'm still in college, so how the fuck do they expect me to pay £1000 for something like that?

seriously, i suggest you guys just download the illegal versions like i did, and use the spare cash to buy some decent hardware to help your workflow.
I bought Cubase 4 and as I know it is not cracked yet...? :o Well, who cares 8)

slothrop
Posts: 2655
Joined: Thu Aug 24, 2006 11:59 am

Post by slothrop » Mon Aug 04, 2008 3:51 pm

I tend to buy my software because it supports the small developers who are doing good and interesting stuff. It's not actually that expensive if you get over the "you must have every bit of Steinberg / NI / Waves / Korg software out there or you will never write a decent tune" brainwashing.

Same reason I buy vinyl rather than downloading radio or myspace rips, really.

Earthling / anyone else: I'm still interested in how much difference the host makes for mixing - so long as you have a sensibly arranged mixer and decent plugs, I can't see how much difference it'd make tbh.

Locked

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 0 guests