Drum & Bass, death of

pookie · Post by **pookie** » Mon Jun 02, 2008 3:48 pm

paradox is still smashing it... check out all his labels outsider, esoteric, arctic music, paradox music.

nucleus & paradox - descendants is special

swomp · Post by **swomp** » Mon Jun 02, 2008 4:00 pm

D&B just pisses me off these days - still like some of the older stuff but can't stand any of the new shit. I think TC is partly to blame for killing it for me.

Was well into it, still have loadsa DnB records but I just can't listen to it for longer than about 30 mins at home. I can hack it at raves still, is quite refreshing after a night of dubstep...

Pistonsbeneath · Post by **Pistonsbeneath** » Mon Jun 02, 2008 5:15 pm

swamp wrote:D&B just pisses me off these days - still like some of the older stuff but can't stand any of the new shit. I think TC is partly to blame for killing it for me.

Was well into it, still have loadsa DnB records but I just can't listen to it for longer than about 30 mins at home. I can hack it at raves still, is quite refreshing after a night of dubstep...

have you checked fanu?

TC are almost as bad as pendulum lol

charlie_g · Post by **charlie_g** » Tue Jun 03, 2008 2:18 am

Anyone heard of a guy called Cabbie? Not sure exactly how many tunes he's put out but 'Mr Jah' and some other bits on his Myspace are quite good. Think he's due to release some tracks on Digital's label. I wouldn't say d'n'b is dead, I'm just not really feeling it like I used to. More into dubstep and electronica nowadays. People like Calibre and Marcus Intalex should keep the genre going though, I hope.

code · Post by **code** » Tue Jun 03, 2008 9:14 am

ramadanman wrote:especially feeling

alix perez
darkestral / instramental
d-bridge
break
icicle
martsman
subtle audio

at the moment

Nice one man !

and check this brand new release people if yer lookin' for some new D&B with a different twist : http://www.dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=48592

tacospheros · Post by **tacospheros** » Tue Jun 03, 2008 9:19 pm

dont listen to the shitty pop dnb thats out there and you wont have any reason to make threads like this

tru_g · Post by **tru_g** » Tue Jun 03, 2008 10:30 pm

Feeling Lynx this year

D-Bridge - Gemini Principle is sounding sick aswell

kate_ · Post by **kate_** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 3:25 pm

What's old Dom and Roland up to these days? Or what about Yellow Note?

darkmatteruk · Post by **darkmatteruk** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 3:41 pm

Kate... wrote:What's old Dom and Roland up to these days?

still about, ive got a couple of this years releases

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kate_ · Post by **kate_** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 4:32 pm

He was my favorite for the longest time. I'd say back in like, 98-2000. New stuff just as good?

darkmatteruk · Post by **darkmatteruk** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 4:46 pm

Kate... wrote:He was my favorite for the longest time. I'd say back in like, 98-2000. New stuff just as good?

sick, mostly on the renegade hardware side of things, dark and full of grunt

blizzardmusic · Post by **blizzardmusic** » Mon Jun 09, 2008 9:18 pm

TRU_G wrote:Feeling Lynx this year

Have you heard Disco Dodo?

HEAVY tune

POND LIFE · Post by **POND LIFE** » Tue Jun 10, 2008 11:18 am

hazard - killers dont die

bad tune... stopped following drum n bass due to its increasing proportional output of bollocks tunes, but that one does it for me.

corpsey · Post by **corpsey** » Tue Jun 10, 2008 3:15 pm

It's not dead, it's just different...

To me its very very functional music. Its lost that feeling of looseness and spontaneity that jungle had- I always think its to do with the speed of it, the relentless driving rhythm that everything has to lock into. I think I can appreciate that on a dancefloor but listening to it at home it gets a bit stale.

Structurally its also extremely conservative in the main, but then I suppose that's the case with most genres, especially long established ones. But it seems like almost every tune follows exactly the same structure and not that many tunes develop or go anywhere. Again, I think the most powerful thing DNB can do nowadays is lock you into a near-frenzied groove- if I see a DJ like Break I can really get into it because most of the tunes have the same rhythmic backing, give or take a bit of percussion, the same intro/drop/breakdown/drop/end structure etc...

Anyway, as I said I think that's just the way DNB is nowadays and personally I have some problems with that, but then I've been rinsing DNB for three years straight so I'm bound to have got bored of it.

fuagofire · Post by **fuagofire** » Tue Jun 10, 2008 6:28 pm

marxman is floating my boat at the mo - but dnb is on a low at the mo, i dont however think its leaving the planet anytime soon

raise cain · Post by **raise cain** » Wed Jun 11, 2008 12:13 am

bjackman wrote:is drum n bass dead?
but i've heard very few good tunes in 2008 so far

- and clipz is just A GENIUS

* does not compute *

Strangely, shit like clipz is being played all over the place, but Im pretty good at ignoring most of it. I dont understand how people consider that music at all.

These discussions about *death* are so reductionistic. I am not going to go into some long winded discussion like I want to, but

drum n bass

rules all music.

Listen to dubstep, to electro, glitch, etc all take so many elements from the dnb. Fuck, even Lily Allen had an Andy C sample in one of her tunes.

Flying Lotus last weekend in Montreal, even ended his set with a crazy chopped up amen jungle tune. People were going nuts.

Jungle is being moved in so many directions, by so many artists that care to give it energy. But this is nothing new.

pressa · Post by **pressa** » Wed Jun 11, 2008 2:01 pm

Dnb is heavy still, Alix Perez, Lynx, Breakage and Hazard are all smashing it up!!

PRESSA

osk · Post by **osk** » Wed Jun 11, 2008 2:27 pm

Stopped following it a few years back having followed it obsessively for about 8 years. And yes, my view of it was that it was indeed DEAD. There were a few exceptions of course, but going out was just rubbish; one good tune every ten just wasn't enough for me.

Now, flicking through a few bits and buying the odd thing, it seems there is good stuff about. TBH I find the whole Alix Perez obsession a little boring; he basically just ripped off Calibre and Commix and his sound doesn't really seem to be rooted in any kind of individuality at all. Instra:mental, Jonny L, D-Bridge etc seem to be on a real good thing right now. Strangely enough, listening to new Calibre bits now doesn't really get me going. It just sounds the same as it did three years ago.

To me, dubstep is going in a similar direction. As things progress it becomes harder and harder to innovate.

bjackman · Post by **bjackman** » Wed Jun 11, 2008 5:12 pm

raise cain wrote:
bjackman wrote:is drum n bass dead?
but i've heard very few good tunes in 2008 so far

- and clipz is just A GENIUS

* does not compute *

Strangely, shit like clipz...

but... just listen to Offline

waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[that was me singing clipz tunes]

Push It up vs. Download is the best double drop i've ever done - people in the room were like "mate you've been fiddlin with the decks for a while now this mix had better be good" n i was like "fam there are 2 tunes playing already."

also the VIP of grimey is just brilliant - loving the "griiiiiiiiiiiimey"

ok i am being pretty tongue-in-cheek here but on a more serious note, clipz can always put you in a wicked mood unlike any other moron music

Pistonsbeneath · Post by **Pistonsbeneath** » Wed Jun 11, 2008 8:07 pm

PRESSA wrote:Dnb is heavy still, Alix Perez, Lynx, Breakage and Hazard are all smashing it up!!

PRESSA

I like music smashing it up sometimes but d&b can be much more than this

& tbh i really don't dig what i've heard of hazard...just seems a bit simple tbh

gimme fanu, spor, current value & limewax any day from the newer blood

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