is it time to move on?

press · Post by **press** » Fri Sep 12, 2008 6:45 pm

black lotus wrote:[
i think press uses reason and he makes bangin tunes.

*blush* thanks very much! and yes this is true i use reason up untill recently i used it alone. I now rewire into reaper, not beacuse i thought reasons sound was bad but because i wanted to timestretch sound without slicing them and to resample synths while im making beats not open close open close etc.

i still only have one stereo master out track for reason in reaper so i still do the bulk of my mixing in reason the only thing i mix in reaper is a few audio files or vox with my reason master mix.

reason is the fucking shit imo no real complaints.

whineo · Post by **whineo** » Fri Sep 12, 2008 7:46 pm

vision wrote:ok i use reason 4 to make songs and if i want to do n e think amazing with audio i use cubase sx3. i starting to get sick of the sound i get. is it time to move on? will i get a better sound just useing cubase? or sould i move to diffrent software? i know that its 100 small tweaks to get a slighty better sound whatever software i use but i feel that i have got past what Rason can do for me. i was thinking of genertating waves in Audacity and then bringing them into cubase, would this work?

mate.
just read this..
http://www.dogsonacid.com/showthread.ph ... did=540472

for the record I don't use reason because it doesn't support audio or plugins

eastern electrics · Post by **eastern electrics** » Fri Sep 12, 2008 8:07 pm

Junglist wrote:Pro Tools > All

I'll be making the move up from the joke of all DAW's (Acid Pro on PC) to the top (Pro Tools on Mac) in 2 weeks time. Can't wait!

For multitrack-recording Pro Tools ist the weapon of choice, but for MIDI-Stuff it sucks in my opinion.
i use reason 4 only and sometimes i feel the same as "vision".
but i wont give up, there are a lot of producers that create big tunes on reason. (like the widdler as already mentioned)
so it´s about exercise i think.

i just wish it would support streaming audio.

darkmatteruk · Post by **darkmatteruk** » Fri Sep 12, 2008 8:13 pm

[quote="Eastern Electrics]"i just wish it would support streaming audio[/quote]

read a propellerheads interview the other week that said that will never happen

_________

http://www.virb.com/darkmatterUK

eastern electrics · Post by **eastern electrics** » Fri Sep 12, 2008 8:19 pm

d´oh! these guys keep it straight stable.

John Locke · Post by **John Locke** » Sat Sep 13, 2008 11:24 am

ive never used reason, never even seen a copy in fact. know nothing about it. and mostly i'm of the opinion that whatever tools you use its all good, as long as you know what u r doing with them...

...but reason is an exception:

everytime i'm on myspace/virb or wherever and hear some over-clean, plasticy sounding, soulless electronic music that i dont really like the feel of, i check the producer's info...and there it is, fucking Reason.

2b fair, there's something about the sound i like a little too; a kind of warm roundness. but its so fucking plasticy and synthetic, there's no dirt, no humanity.

but plenty ppl love it. and if u like it then stick with it.

i personally think it sounds like an audio equivalent of polystyrene.

osk · Post by **osk** » Sat Sep 13, 2008 7:48 pm

Just learn the program. Reason is brilliant.

Andy Stott only uses Reason. Do his tunes sound naff? Er, no.

It's foolish to think that a change of program will improve your music.

Disco Nutter · Post by **Disco Nutter** » Sat Sep 13, 2008 9:30 pm

Osk wrote:It's foolish to think that a change of program will improve your music.

Actually it's not foolish. I did, and I swear - it DID improve. It's all depending on the workflow. I ended up working better with th workflow of DAW X than DAW Y I had been using for a couple of years.

Or maybe I'm just imagining stuff...

abZ · Post by **abZ** » Sat Sep 13, 2008 10:11 pm

Johnny Beat wrote:
Osk wrote:It's foolish to think that a change of program will improve your music.
Actually it's not foolish. I did, and I swear - it DID improve. It's all depending on the workflow. I ended up working better with th workflow of DAW X than DAW Y I had been using for a couple of years.

Or maybe I'm just imagining stuff...

Naw I'm with you. I switched from Reason to Ableton and I think things are improving. At very least like you say workflow is better. Sometimes you can rig Reason up to do what you want where as other progs are designed to do those tasks. And it is liberating not being tied down to Reason's plugins. I have been trying to mix down some tunes I did in Reason via rewire to Ableton and within minutes I can take that tune to the next level. But I totally recommend you take whatever prog you have and learn it as good as you can before moving on.

deadpostcard · Post by **deadpostcard** » Sat Sep 13, 2008 10:26 pm

i've been using reason for quite a while, roughly 4 yrs now. i do have to say that it does sound pretty weak. BUT, a little compression and eq'ing goes a long way...
i recently started using more vst's like massive, absynth, and fm8, and korg ms 20, within live.
what it all comes down to is how you use your programs.
you still have to do a little mastering with the vst's because the synths don't have their own eqs...
anyways, just know your programs!

kingnaya · Post by **kingnaya** » Sat Sep 13, 2008 10:28 pm

yeah man... i used reason since i 1st started producin.. only cos my girlfriend produces on cubase and not reason is the only fact ive started usin massive and albino etc... ive always said reason can make any sound just takes more time.. more routin sund modules too other sound modules.. alot more effects... etc... ive always sed the reason people with vsts sound god is cos everythinks handed too them on a plate and the sounds are so easy too make.. but im turnin too the darkside nwo im usin cubase alot more and i kinda like it.... shame... but yeah i make music on cubase and reason so i know the diffrences.. and im not biast eitha so i wil always give you the correct opinion

deadly · Post by **deadly** » Sun Sep 14, 2008 8:59 am

FSTZ wrote:
Junglist wrote:Pro Tools > All
not necessarily

ProTools is a very stable platform for multi-tracking ALOT of audio

however, it cannot touch Logic, Cubase, or Nuendo when it comes to processing midi, and virtual instruments

but if you choose to pursue recording as a career, you will need know Protools because most professional studios around the worls use the HD systems

mbox and 008 are a joke IMHO

After spending time in a Pro Tools studio (a proper one - not someone's bedroom!) I'd have to agree. For mixing audio, recording and stuff it's great but give me Logic for song creation any day.

feasible_weasel · Post by **feasible_weasel** » Sun Sep 14, 2008 10:25 am

darkmatterUK wrote:im using reason 4 aswell, and you can get seriously good results using just reason. check the first tune in my virb, thats all made with just reason, the dark reese bass was one thor and a scream distortion unit

http://www.virb.com/darkmatterUK

godly

hugh · Post by **hugh** » Sun Sep 14, 2008 10:45 am

i would say the reason most people's music from reason sounds tacky is cos they are using presets and simply changing a few things so that the sound isn't really appropriate to the mood of the tune. Also since a lot of people seem to start on reason, they move on before they really understand synthesis - i know i am only getting the hang of it but i know for a fact with thor you can get some really high quality sounds if u have a vague idea of what you are doing.

ms>v · Post by **ms>v** » Sun Sep 14, 2008 11:46 am

I spent too much time stressing that I wasn't using the right software.....

and then I thought..

Fakk It

It's about the end product.. not how you got there

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