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Post by slothrop » Sat Sep 13, 2008 5:25 pm

UmkhontoWeSizwe wrote:the question is what the fuck does this have to do with 8 feet tall blue people from andromeda who communicate telepathically in the 4th dimension and of whom there is no evidence of their existence......
But if you don't believe that then you must unquestioningly believe EVERYTHING THE GOVERNMENT IS TELLING YOU! Because the government is telling you that there aren't 8 feet tall blue people from andromeda who communicate telepathically in the 4th dimension. And you're believing them. So you must believe everything else they say as well.

Srsly, if you keep thinking critically about stuff and demanding evidence then you're always going to fall for their lies, the only way to become less gullible is to believe everything you see on youtube without thinking to hard about whether it's true or not.

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Post by parson » Sat Sep 13, 2008 5:41 pm

i'm telling you right now. if this information does not resonate with you, then please discard it.

carry on.

this thread is not for convincing or arguing.

and if you're feelin collier, here's what he's up to these days
http://www.escapetheillusion.com/blog/2 ... tion-2008/
[damn he doesn't get started till 11 minutes in fyi]

ohhh he talks about our unique ability to make music and how other races are incapable of doing what we do.
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Post by parson » Sat Sep 13, 2008 6:06 pm

telepathy is the key to understanding this stuff. the way extraterrrestrial communication goes down is telepathically. humans have telepathic potential as well. we're actually doing telepathic shit all the time. empathy is telepathy. telepathy can be developed. when your'e telepathic, there are no secrets. all there can be is forgiveness and love, or shit is very uncomfortable.

check this:

The secret was out of the Bag in 1974; any human being can receive and transfer information psychically. The only thing lacking was an understanding of how to focus and develop this ability. Turns out the geniuses at Stanford Research Institute (with oversight by the CIA of course) discovered this by running scientific testing on known “Remote Viewers” who had developed partial control of this ability along with regular CIA volunteers, most of which just happened to be working in the building at the time.

The results are nothing less then proof positive evidence that all humans have psychic abilities. This was over 30 years ago; imagine the understanding they have over the human consciousness and its abilities today! If you look back far enough you will see that these people have had years to study human psychic abilities. Funded by billions of dollars, with teams of scientist using advanced computer modeling who have cracked the secrets of our minds.

Maybe that is what has them so scared; wanting to kill through war and starvation 2/3s of the population. Maybe the scarcest scenario to the “controllers” is the fact that we might wake up one day and realize the power that is within ourselves is greater than any government or advanced technology. Mind Control is easier to do then most people think, which is why people need to start learning how to use these abilities to protect themselves. Electromagnetic waves affecting our consciousness is nothing new, in fact its old news, just like this report.

THE FACT STILL STANDS…

EVERYONE has the power to LEARN HOW TO REMOTE VIEW, RECEIVE PSYCHIC INFORMATION, and TRANSMIT PSYCHIC INFORMATION and most importantly PROTECT THEMSELVES FROM MIND CONTROL if they so choose.

People have to know that it is possible…

KNOW THAT IT IS.

http://www.psitech.net/news/sri_pat.htm

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released by CIA so far. Seven more exist from the same time period.
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SRI
STANFORD RESEARCH INSTITUTE
Menlo Park, California 94025 U.S.A.
Final Report

Covering the Period January 1974 through February 1975

PERCEPTUAL AUGMENTATION TECHNIQUES

Part One--Executive Summary
By: Harold E. Puthoff and Russell Targ

Electronics and Bioengineering Laboratory
SRI Project 3183
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I OBJECTIVE
The goal of this program was to determine the extent to which certain
individuals obtain accurate information about their environment under
conditions thought to be secure against such access and without the use of
known human perceptual modalities.
The program was divided into two categories of approximately equal
effort--applied research and basic research.. The applied research effort
explored the operational utility of the above perceptual abilities. The
basic research effort was directed toward identification of the
characteristics of individuals possessing such abilities and the
determination of neurophysiological correlates and basic mechanisms
involved in such functioning.
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II SUMMARY
As a result of exploratory research on human perception carried out in
SRI's Electronics and Bioengineering Laboratory, we observed the emergence
of a perceptual channel whereby certain individuals access and describe,
by means of mental imagery, randomly-chosen remote sites located several
miles or more away. In this final report, we document the study at SRI of
this human information-accessing capability which we call "remote
viewing," the characteristics of which appear to fall outside the range of
well-understood perceptual/information-processing abilities. This
phenomenon pertains to the ability of certain individuals to access and
describe, by means of internal mental processes, information sources
blocked from ordinary perception and generally accepted as secure against
such access. These individuals include not only SRI subjects, but
visiting staff members of the sponsoring organization who participated as
subjects in order to critique the protocol. Experiments carried out under
controlled laboratory conditions included the reproduction of line
drawings shielded against ordinary perception, the determination of the
electronic state of a four-state random number generator, and the viewing
of remote geographical locations, all at levels of statistical
significance p < 10 -6 {less than ten to the minus sixth power}. Our
initial work in this area has been reported in the open literature under
the title "Information Transmission Under Conditions of Sensory
Shielding," Nature 252, 18 October 1974, and reprinted in the IEEE
Communications 13, January 1975. A copy of this publication is included
as Appendix A of this report.
Since our initial work the phenomenon we have investigated most
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extensively is the ability of individuals to view remote geographical
1ocations (up to several thousand kilometers), given only coordinates
(latitude and longitude) or a person on whom to target. We have worked
with a number of individuals, including sponsor personnel, whose remote
perceptual abilities have been developed sufficiently to allow them at
times to describe correctly--often in great detail--geographical or
technical material such as buildings, roads, laboratory apparatus, and the
like.
The development of this capability at SRI has evolved to the point where
(a) visiting CIA personnel with no previous exposure to such concepts have
performed well under controlled laboratory conditions (that is, generated
target descriptions of sufficiently high quality to permit blind matching
of descriptions to targets by independent judges), and (b) subjects
trained over a one-year period have performed well under operational
conditions (that is, provided data of operational significance later
verified by independent sources). Our accumulated data thus indicate that
both specially selected and unselected persons can be assisted in
developing remote perceptual abilities to a level of useful information
transfer.
To indicate the level of proficiency that can be reached, we present four
examples generated by experienced subjects. The first category consists
of long-distance (trans-Atlantic) remote-viewing of a large stale
installation. The second category consists of two or more subjects
remote-viewing the same target, independently, which in this series was
technical apparatus. The third category consists of remote sensing of the
internal state of a piece of electronic equipment. The fourth category
consists of the perturbation of remote equipment.
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A. Category I: Long-Distance Remote Viewing
In order to subject the remote viewing phenomena to a rigorous
long-distance test under external control, a request for geographical
coordinates of a site unknown to subject and experimenters was forwarded
to the OSI group responsible for threat analysis in this area. In
response, SRI personnel received a set of geographical coordinates
(latitude and longitude in degrees, minutes, and seconds) of a facility,
hereafter referred to as The West Virginia Site. The experimenters then
carried out a remote viewing experiment an a double-blind basis, that is,
blind to experimenters as well as subject. The experiment had as its goal
the determination of the utility of remote viewing under conditions
approximating an operational scenario. Two subjects targeted on the
site, a sensitive installation. One subject drew a detailed map of the
building and grounds layout, the other provided information about the
interior including codewords, data subsequently verified by sponsor
sources (report available from COTR),
A long-distance remote viewing experiment was then carried out on a
sponsor-designated target of interest, a research center at Semipalatinsk,
USSR. The Contracting Officer Technical Representative (COTR) furnished
map coordinates to the experimenters. The only additional information
provided was the designation of the target as an R&D test facility. The
experimenters then carried out a remote viewing experiment on a
doubleblind basis with a subject (S1)* trained in the SRI program.
Figure l(a) shows the subject's graphic effort for building layout;
Figure l(b) shows the subject's particular attention to a multistory
gantry crane he observed at the site. (Again, these results were obtained
on a double-blind basis
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* A key to numerical designations for subjects is available from the COTR.
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(a) SUBJECT EFFORT AT BUILDING LAYOUT
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[b) SUBJECT EFFORT AT CRANE CONSTRUCTION
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before exposure to the COTR-held information, thus eliminating the
possibility of cueing.) For comparison an artist's rendering of the
site, as known to the COTR (but not to contract personnel) is shown in
Figure 2(b), with crane detail shown in Figure 2(b). The exceptionally
accurate description of the multistory crane was taken as indicative of
probable target acquisition, and therefore the subject as introduced to
sponsor personnel who collected further data for evaluation. The
latter contained both additional physical data which were independently
verified by other sponsor resources, thus providing additional
calibration, and also initially-unverifiable data of current operational
interest. Several hours of tape transcript and a notebook full of
drawings were generated over a two-week period. A description of the data
and evaluation is contained in a separate report. -The results contained
noise along with the signal, but: were nonetheless clearly differentiated
from the chance results generated by control subjects in comparison
experiments carried out by the COTR.
B. Category II: Technology Series (Multiple)
A series of experiments designed to measure the resolution capability
of the remote viewing phenomenon were carried out within the
confines of
SRI. In each experiment a subject was asked to attempt to
describe remote
laboratory equipment, demarcated only by a target individual sent to a
location of interest by means of a random protocol outside the
experimenters' control. The experimenter remaining with the subject was
kept ignorant of the contents of the target pool to prevent cueing during
questioning. The subject was asked to describe the apparatus both verbally
(tape recorded) and by means of drawings. The sample presented here is
not an edited collection of "best ever" results, but rather consists of
the results of the entire collection of experiments directly involving
visiting CIA personnel in which
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(a) TARGET SITE
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(b) CRANE COMPARISON
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two or more subjects independently viewed an identical technological target.
The target for Experiment 1, a typewriter, was chosen by a sponsor staff
member during a site visit. The response drawn by the subject (S4), located
approximately 100 yards away, is shown on the right of Figure 3. The
target was re-used at a later date with another subject, resulting in the
response on the left.
The target for Experiment 2 was a Xerox machine, chosen by the COTR during
a site visit. In response the drawing on the right of Figure 4 was
generated by a second sponsor staff member who agreed to participate as a
subject in this one experiment in order to evaluate the protocol. The
target was re-used at a later date with an SRI subject (S2) in an
experiment under observation by sponsor personnel, resulting in the
response on the left. Finally, the same target came up for subject S3
during a random technological target series, resulting in the drawing in
the center.
The target for Experiment 3, a computer input-output unit, resulted in the
responses shown in Figure 5. The response on the left was generated by SRI
subject S4, the one on the right by a visiting sponsor staff member who
participated as a subject in a random technological target series.
Such results, generated in experiments with viewing windows of 15-min.
duration, indicate the presence of an information channel of useful bit
rate. Furthermore, it would appear that by correlating a number of
subject responses to a given target, we can obtain enhancement of the
signal-to-noise ratio.
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TECHNOLOGY SERIES
TYPEWRITER TARGET
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SRI SUBJECT S3 RESPONSE SRI SUBJECT S4 RESPONSE
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FIGURE 3 DRAWINGS BY TWO SUBJECTS OF A TYPEWRITER TARGET
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TARGET LOCATION: XEROX MACHINE
(TECHNOLOGY SERIES)
{photo}
EXPERIMENTER WITH HIS
HEAD BEING XEROXED
(TO ADD INTEREST TO
TARGET LOCATION)
{drawing}
SRI SUBJECT S2 RESPONSE
{drawing}
SRI SUBJECT S3 RESPONSE
{drawing}
When asked to describe the square at upper left, the subject said, "There
was this pre-dominant light source which might have been a window, and a
working surface which might have been the slick, or a working surface or
desk." Earlier the subject had said, "I have the feeling that there is
something silhouetted against the window."
SPONSOR SUBJECT RESPONSE
TA-760522-74
UNCLASSIFIED
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{photos}
TARGET: VIDEO MONITOR FOR TEXT EDITING (TECHNOLOGY SERIES)
{drawing}
SUBJECT DRAWING OF "BOX WITH LIGHT COMING OUT OF IT . . .
PAINTED FLAT BACK AND IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROOM"
SRI SUBJECT S4 RESPONSE
{drawing}
SECOND SUBJECT SAW A TEXAS INSTRUMENTS "SILENT 700"
COMPUTER TERMINAL
SPONSOR SUBJECT RESPONSE
SA-3183-B
FIGURE 5 DRAWING BY TWO SUBJECTS OF A VIDEO MONITOR TARGET
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C. Category III: Remote Sensing of Internal States of Electronic Equipment
To determine whether remote viewing could be extended beyond visual
perception to the sensing of the internal state of a piece of electronic
equipment, further experimentation was carried out with six subjects who
had shown an ability in remote viewing. The task was the determination of
the internal electronic state of a four-state random number generator (p =
1/4 for each of four equal-probability outputs) whose characteristics had
been examined in detail to verify its randomness. The solid-state machine
has no moving parts and provides no sensory cut to the user as to its
target generation. (See Figure 6,) Although the task appeared more
difficult, one of six subjects consistently scored significantly better
than chance (p = 3 x lO -7) {p= three times ten to the minus seventh
power}. In the required 2500-trial run the latter obtained 17.4% more hits
(734) than would be expected by chance (625). When the subject was asked
to repeat the entire experiment at a later time, he was able to replicate
successfully a high scoring rate (11.5% more hits than expected by chance,
p = 4.8 x 10-4)
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{photo}
SA-2613-3
FIGURE 6
FOUR-STATE RANDOM NUMBER GENERATOR
The printer to the right of the machine records data automatically on fan-fold
paper tape.
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D. Category IV: Perturbation of Remote Equipment
Additional experimentation was initiated to investigate the possibility
that the remote sensing channel may possess bilateral aspects; for
example, it might be possible to couple energy from an individual to a
remote location as well as in reverse. To test this hypothesis,
experiments were carried out with a sensitive magnetometer in an adjoining
laboratory as the remote target. Use of an ORD-developed magnetometer was
arranged by ORD personnel. In a series of thirteen 10-trial runs with 50
seconds per trial, perturbations of the magnetometer by a subject gifted
in remote viewing were obtained under a strict randomization protocol,
yielding a positive result significant at the p = 0.004 level. Because
of the potential significance and implications of such findings, we intend
to collect considerable additional data before arriving at a hard
conclusion. Nonetheless, as a tentative conclusion there is evidence that
a piece of sensitive equipment can be perturbed by a subject during remote
viewing, thus implying that the information channel under investigation
may sustain energy transfer in either direction.
E. General Considerations
The primary achievement of the SRI program was the elicitation of high
quality remote viewing by individuals who agreed to act as subjects.
Criticism of this claim could in principle be put forward on the basis of
three potential flaws: (1) the study could involve naiveti in protocol
which permits various forms of cueing, intentional or unintentional; (2)
the experiments discussed could be selected out of a larger pool of
experiments of which many are of poorer quality; (3) data for the reported
experiments could be edited to show only the matching elements, the
non-matching
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elements being discarded.
All three criticisms, however, are invalid. First, with regard to cueing,
the use of double-blind protocols ensures that no person in contact with
the subject can be aware of the target. Second, no selection of
experiments for reporting takes place; every experiment is entered as
performed on a master log and is included in the statistical evaluations.
Third, data associated with a given experiment remain unedited; all data
associated with an experiment are tape recorded and included unedited in
the data package to be judged, evaluated, etc. Finally, the entire
unedited file of tape recordings, transcripts and drawings for every
experiment is available to the COTR and others in the scientific
community for independent analysis.
The observed results outlined in A through D above (target acquisition,
equipment description, electronic state specification, and perturbation of
instrument operation) may together constitute different aspects of a
single remote coupling phenomenon. With regard to understanding the
phenomenon itself, the precise nature of the information channel coupling
remote locations is not yet understood. However, we can show that its
characteristics are compatible with both quantum theory and information
theory and with recent developments in research on brain function.
Therefore, our working assumption is that the phenomenon of interest does
not lie outside the purview of modern physics and with further work will
yield to analysis and specification.
Further, with an eye toward future subject selection, subjects possessing
a well-developed natural ability in the area under consideration underwent
complete physical, psychological, and neuropsychological profiling, the
results of which suggest the core of a screening procedure.
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Finally, it is concluded by the research contractors that the accrual of
experience in three years of successful effort constitutes an asset that
could be utilized in the future both for operational needs and for
training others in the development and use of the remote sensing
capability.
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Post by black lotus » Sat Sep 13, 2008 6:16 pm

#1 i believe information like this is making people more stupid. it's not telepathy, it's intuition. get the fuck over it.


#2 i've had enough hallucinogenic experiences with LSD and DMT and Salvia to know that there is external signals coming in, but it is the interpretation of those signals that make your belief systems what they are. bottom line: every little bit of whatever you think you are experiencing is always filtered through your belief system. that's how signal flow works. how do you know you aren't deceiving yourself?


if we want to know the honest to goodness truth, we must be skeptical of information like this. to blindly accept it is to be religious, and we already know where that road leads.. do yourself a favor and don't believe every little thing you hear. we all want hope and we all want a better world, but believing in aliens and telepathy will probably not lead us to those things. could it become a reality? of course, there's a possiblity. but i'm with richard dawkins and these types of phenomena. quit bullshiting about shit that you don't really know is real.

see also, ken wilber.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wX_W1BB_0M
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Post by parson » Sat Sep 13, 2008 6:17 pm

it's all lies. carry on.

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Post by black lotus » Sat Sep 13, 2008 6:19 pm

Parson wrote:it's all lies. carry on.
you are NOT helping.

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Post by parson » Sat Sep 13, 2008 6:22 pm

i appreciate your enthusiasm. you have a lot of great energy.

if you would try to channel it into a space of love for a few minutes, you would feel less angry, and the universe would appreciate it as well.
<3

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Post by black lotus » Sat Sep 13, 2008 6:26 pm

Parson wrote:i appreciate your enthusiasm. you have a lot of great energy.

if you would try to channel it into a space of love for a few minutes, you would feel less angry, and the universe would appreciate it as well.
<3

the universe owes me, as far as i am concerned. i can't burn bright without fuel.
also, i channel 'love' energy daily. this isn't the issue. additionally, your methodology is errored. and i am saying this out of respect, endless peace and love for other people doesn't just occur. it, too, requires an injunction. the hippies were wrong. also, acid.

also, people will see whatever their system allows them to see. you can't force it. but you can guide it. i've been doing this for a while.

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Post by guerillaeye » Sat Sep 13, 2008 6:49 pm

You've not had telepathic experiences?? Even after (or during) your LSD and DMT use?

I dont know what to tell you.

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Post by parson » Sat Sep 13, 2008 6:56 pm

the hippies were right, but they got arrogant and impatient and bloated with a following that didn't really get it and were easily manipulated.

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Post by parson » Sat Sep 13, 2008 6:57 pm

for spontaneous injunction, check out these ram dass lectures
http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/4121786 ... s_in_truth

also this convo with ram dass and terrence mckenna is awesome
http://dedroidify.blogspot.com/2008/01/ ... -dass.html

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Post by black lotus » Sat Sep 13, 2008 7:02 pm

Parson wrote:the hippies were right, but they got arrogant and impatient and bloated with a following that didn't really get it and were easily manipulated.
i would love to help you, but even in your most recent blog you are writing about how you do not understand free will.


additionally, i *have* had telepathic experiences (way to assume otherwise based on what little information you had, proof of flawed logic), the difference is i don't go around saying "HAY GUIZE I CANS HEAR/EXPERIENCE WAVELENGTHS"

do you even understand why you have telepathic experiences and how they function beyond "omg they are real"?

the reason why nobody believes people who come out with information like this is because their delivery is profoundly ignorant. again, i mean no offense whatsoever, but seriously.. there is good form and poor form. i have seen this a million times. needs more grace and fluidity.

yes, i know ram dass. i know mckenna. i've actually browsed the akashic records while on ketamine. i've been experimenting with belief systems for a while.
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Post by -djz- » Sat Sep 13, 2008 7:03 pm

Chris, yer funny.

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Post by parson » Sat Sep 13, 2008 7:04 pm

in my blog i was writing as i was coming to understand (remember[again]) free will.
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Post by parson » Sat Sep 13, 2008 7:06 pm

black lotus wrote:i've been experimenting with belief systems for a while.
this is just ignorant. i'm going to need evidence. and some erudicity. and some lemonade.

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Post by black lotus » Sat Sep 13, 2008 7:06 pm

Parson wrote:in my blog i was writing as i was coming to understand free will.
and that's beautiful, but it doesn't really change the fact that you are still very blind and your understand of how the universe is still is embryonic. don't follow the hippies.
Parson wrote: this is just ignorant. i'm going to need evidence. and some erudicity. and some lemonade.
the evidence and elucidation will become apparatus as conversation moves forward.
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Post by parson » Sat Sep 13, 2008 7:06 pm

erudicity sounds better than eruditeness so i'm goin with it.

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Post by parson » Sat Sep 13, 2008 7:07 pm

black lotus wrote:
Parson wrote:in my blog i was writing as i was coming to understand free will.
and that's beautiful, but it doesn't really change the fact that you are still very blind and your understand of how the universe is still is embryonic. don't follow the hippies.
what are you talking about. you don't know what i know.

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Post by parson » Sat Sep 13, 2008 7:07 pm

i've never come across somebody so conflicted as you.

you're conflicted.

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Post by black lotus » Sat Sep 13, 2008 7:08 pm

Parson wrote:
black lotus wrote:
Parson wrote:in my blog i was writing as i was coming to understand free will.
and that's beautiful, but it doesn't really change the fact that you are still very blind and your understand of how the universe is still is embryonic. don't follow the hippies.
what are you talking about. you don't know what i know.
you don't even know how much you are revealing to me right now.

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