UNI DISSERTATION IDEAS>>pls Help..

[kindofblue272]

here's an idea: combine a little musicological groundwork with your productions for a discussion of musical process in a relatively homogenous sound group (i.e. dubstep). how do you fit your efforts in to the greater context of the community? what elements are important, where do you conform to a certain standard, and where do you deviate? what are the benefits of homogeny in musical groups? what social mechanisms enable communal musical progress?

[teqh]

Cheers kindofblue,

that is pretty much it, i dont even need to perform it.

You are right about having substantial creative work, which i would like to be a selection compositions, I'm all ready to get started on them (well i say that, but i mean im mentally ready to start working on them and crack on with this project) apart from i need to know what is the focus and the drive behind the compositions, what are they showing, which is what im trying to figure out with everyone now. there has to be a reason for me to be writing the pieces to be showing something, then i will have something to write about for the evaluation, not just 'i made a selection of dubstep compositions because i waned to show you that i can write dubstep'..hmmm

I like TEQH's idea

"Perhaps you could write about the stylistic influences of early electronic music on underground electronic music of 21st Century and you could take early tracks and try and mold their sound into a modern context through your practical pieces."

I could look at some Stockhausen pieces or some other old experimental electronica and try and modernise them into dubsteppy pieces. I guess i would have to try and find a piece that i could find some similarities to a more modern piece. But then what would it be that i was trying to prove? that there are similarities? I guess i would need to figure out a more specific similarity or specific type of influence..

I feel like im getting somewhere, a little

Thanks for the help everyone,,

I might keep this post as a sort of a blog for my ideas. If anyone wants to add anything it would be greatly appreciated!!

Helen
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I didn't say that idea i was just requoting it incase you missed it, original post is a few above me

[makeusabrew]

oooohhhh im suck

is there no one else on the forum whos done a music tech degree?

Everyone has been really helpful thank you,

i just find myself going in circles and never coming up with a solid title,


I was also thinking about relationships between electronic music and architecture, i could write some interesting pieces and choose specific buildings to compare them to..

This is an interesting thread

http://www.pushpullbar.com/forums/archi ... -6406.html

[kindofblue272]

I was also thinking about relationships between electronic music and architecture, i could write some interesting pieces and choose specific buildings to compare them to..

don't do that. that idea sounds like you're putting the chicken before the egg ... other than the fact that some architects happen to be musicians or like music or use music as an analogy for certain architectural concepts, i don't think there really are a whole lot of meaningful relationships between architecture and music ...

the relationship between music and 2-dimensional images is tenuous enough as it is (illustrated by the fact that you can pick a DVD blindfolded and toss it in while you're DJing and you'll notice connections)
--much less the relationship between music and 3-dimensional objects.

keep trying and you'll come up with something better. if you really want to involve dubstep, i'm sure your professors will find a little bit of basic musicological work to be refreshing since it's most likely a culture that isn't familiar to them ... the simpler your topic, the more solid it will be. for example--"technological mediation in the composition and production of bass music" = awesome title, simple idea. write about what technologies make dubstep possible, where they came from, what new uses dubstep producers in particular have invented for these technologies, and how proficiency with these instruments is passed through various channels like the internet. then, illustrate with your own productions. voila, top marks.

[makeusabrew]

I was also thinking about relationships between electronic music and architecture, i could write some interesting pieces and choose specific buildings to compare them to..

don't do that. that idea sounds like you're putting the chicken before the egg ... other than the fact that some architects happen to be musicians or like music or use music as an analogy for certain architectural concepts, i don't think there really are a whole lot of meaningful relationships between architecture and music ...

the relationship between music and 2-dimensional images is tenuous enough as it is (illustrated by the fact that you can pick a DVD blindfolded and toss it in while you're DJing and you'll notice connections)
--much less the relationship between music and 3-dimensional objects.

keep trying and you'll come up with something better. if you really want to involve dubstep, i'm sure your professors will find a little bit of basic musicological work to be refreshing since it's most likely a culture that isn't familiar to them ... the simpler your topic, the more solid it will be. for example--"technological mediation in the composition and production of bass music" = awesome title, simple idea. write about what technologies make dubstep possible, where they came from, what new uses dubstep producers in particular have invented for these technologies, and how proficiency with these instruments is passed through various channels like the internet. then, illustrate with your own productions. voila, top marks.

Thanks kindofblue,
The past couple of days i've been really considering the idea of Architecture, but now that you have said what you did, I'm thinking that maybe my tutors will also not find it a very good idea." technological mediation in the composition and production of bass music " does sound very good, and the what you said about the the title being simpler is true,

I have found lots of stuff on relationships between architecture and music

harmony, rhythm, structure, measure, texture, development, theme, theme and variations, phrase, form, interval, symmetry, taxis and timbre.

"Architecture as 'frozen music', there exist a great cornucopia of connections; both in the language and composition of each. 'Structure', 'Rhythm' and 'Texture' are only a few of the ideas shared by music and architecture"

And there is the project that Iannis Xenaki worked on with someone,

I moved away from the idea of trying to be able to include Dubstep compositions , and was thinking I would end up writing something that is more experimental electronica (so it could always include the odd bit off dubstep influence, no reason why not)

Hmmmm, still got my thinking cap on!

thanks for your support

x

[kindofblue272]

Thanks kindofblue,
The past couple of days i've been really considering the idea of Architecture, but now that you have said what you did, I'm thinking that maybe my tutors will also not find it a very good idea." technological mediation in the composition and production of bass music " does sound very good, and the what you said about the the title being simpler is true,

I have found lots of stuff on relationships between architecture and music

harmony, rhythm, structure, measure, texture, development, theme, theme and variations, phrase, form, interval, symmetry, taxis and timbre.

"Architecture as 'frozen music', there exist a great cornucopia of connections; both in the language and composition of each. 'Structure', 'Rhythm' and 'Texture' are only a few of the ideas shared by music and architecture"

And there is the project that Iannis Xenaki worked on with someone,

I moved away from the idea of trying to be able to include Dubstep compositions , and was thinking I would end up writing something that is more experimental electronica (so it could always include the odd bit off dubstep influence, no reason why not)

Hmmmm, still got my thinking cap on!

thanks for your support

x

ahh, I see what you're getting at. what I was trying to say is that while there may be very similar concepts in architecture and music, trying to make connections between a particular piece of music and a particular piece of architecture may be very difficult, and may seem a bit of a stretch-- if the two have not been designed together as an installation piece, as in the xenakis case.

[bobby_dozen]

try working all with one technique of sound design
all found sounds? recordings of getting the buss to uni in the morning

Discussion of the use of found sounds in different styles of music? In dubstep vs. someone like Amon Tobin vs. say Steve Reich's city life?

[makeusabrew]

Hi Bobby_dozen,

Well im looking at trying to decide a topic in which i can write some compositions as the main bulk of my project. The write up will be worth say 30% the compositions 70%
But i like the idea of found sounds,,,

I Still haven't gotten much further,

I have been thinking the past few days about

exploring sound and still image

I could use a number of photos taken by myself or even famous paintings or images and create electronic soundscapes to capture and try to bring to life the image.,

photos of different places with different emotions

Picnic in park, a rave, funeral, murder?

So it could be

"emotions through sound and still image"

Would almost be like an art instillation.,even more so if i used photos taken by my me. Does anyone know of any soundscapes that are written for an photo or painting? If there are classical compositions that are written inspired by a painting that would be useful...

Just another idea,,

x

[tk]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Musique_concrète

furthering the found sounds idea .... there is history there so stuff you could write about... could get a very interesting dubstep track too never mind explaining how you created each sound and where it came from ect.....