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I've never tried the ayahausca but I've had a few things from

http://www.salvia-divinorum-supplies.co.uk/index.php

Not in the same league as that but I'm quite a fan of the Blue Lily stuff. Nice and relaxing. I normally just make tea out of it. Though apparently smoking it is meant to be good.

I also have some of the fly agaric extract waiting for an opportunity to be used, though am slightly uncertain of how much to use

n type well and truly on the lick

I've had some legal highs, some called ex1s which were rubbish and some of the PEP pills which were wicked but a shit comedown - no sleep. The active ingredient in them is called piperazine, which is also used for de worming cows - so medicinal as well as enjoyable.

defo go for the herbal highs before you take one of those shark things.

poax wrote:

eventualdecline wrote:

poax wrote:if you want legal intense psychodelics N try , hawaiin woodrose, or my favourite salvia divinorum (although i know a lot of girls who say they dont get nothing from it) cant test the old dmt but its a fucking good crack!

dmt was the craziest stuff I've done in my life. My old room mates and I ordered the materials legally online and made two different drinks, the first was a precursor so that the second dmt drink wasn't digested and actually worked. This was quite a few years ago but I remember ordering syrian rue seeds and some sort of tree bark. Mind you... the two drinks were absolutely horrid tasting but it was a mental experience.

nah sounds like your talking about something deeper still, that be ayahausca (i think)
its a shamanic concoction that lets an elevated mind walk with the dead (yoiks)contains dmt and syrian rue and plenty of other crazy shit. thats some fucking hardcore shit!!! did you ever make it back to earth??

Rahh!! I read about that shit years ago, always thought its something I wanna do before I die, just heard about peeps having some mad arse experiences, and some not coming back quite the same... like seeing the true fabric of the universe, meeting alien beings, realising the true nature of us as One ...

I tried some Fly Agaric recently. Just made me feel a bit stoned and fuzzy. And then I fell asleep!! Arse!
Prob didnt take enuff tho.

Salvia is made by the devil himself....its easily the worst drug ive EVER had, and ive a fucking lot.....I maybe shouldnt have had it on the coach home from a festival, as I started trying to open the back doors of the coach doin 80mph down the motorway trying to get off as I was freaking out way too much....its evil evil stuff....only way I can describe it is its like lying down on a carpet and getting rolled up in the carpet again and again and again, while everyone around you appears to have massive heads, it takes you somewhere else honestly....I wouldnt touch it again with a shitty stick....way too much!

junkies =)

poax wrote:if you want legal intense psychodelics N try , hawaiin woodrose, or my favourite salvia divinorum (although i know a lot of girls who say they dont get nothing from it) cant test the old dmt but its a fucking good crack!

tell them to consume salvia divinorum orally instead of smoking

poax wrote: nah sounds like your talking about something deeper still, that be ayahausca (i think)
its a shamanic concoction that lets an elevated mind walk with the dead (yoiks)contains dmt and syrian rue and plenty of other crazy shit. thats some fucking hardcore shit!!! did you ever make it back to earth??

Nah man.. DMT is one of the most potent hallucinagens known to man! Properly interesting stuff. Never done it myself though, don't think I'm tough enough for it yet.

Serious though, a recreational human dose kills sheep, yet it occurs naturally in humans in the pineal gland, at birth and at death apparently. They aren't totally certain yet, but there's been plenty of books written about it. DMT's been used as an explanation for why people have near death experiences - they come so close that DMT is released in the brain and they hallucinate like fucking madmen. Crazy shit

http://www.psymon.com/psychedelia/biblio/dmt.html - this book's pretty interesting

I've heard that stuff about tribal use as well. Read something on Erowid.org about how certain tribes use ayauasca as a coming of age drug.... mental!

Yeah I think dmt is probably the most spiritual drug I've taken, I think it's a great way to delve deeper into your beliefs. I did an immense amount of research into it before hand and there's a lot of interesting theories in how it ties in with mankind's psyche. However having said that, like all things you need to be responsible with what you put into your body and how you mess with your head.

As for me those days are over really, done all the experimenting that I needed to. Now it's the odd bit of weed here and there.

Yeah DMT is abosolute nuts man! I got home from university one night and my flatmat got me to trip sit him, he'd done the research and build his way up to trying it but nothing can really prepare you for how crazy that stuff is...

he smoked it then his eyes rolled completely back into his head and he said simply "I'm going to die." I thought oh shit I'll call an ambulance in a few seconds but then as soon as he had any idea that he wasnt he told me, "I'm not going to die." he then layed there for about for ten minutes quietly then began saying FUCKING HELL FUCKING HELL in a sort of half good, half theres a truck about to hit me kind of way. Then it kind of eased up and he was straight again within 15 minutes. He said it was good but he doesnt want to do it again and he wouldnt reccomend it to any of his friends... I certainly wouldn't want to try it out.

I've tried BZP Party Pills, as they're known here, a couple of times. Their alright kind of like a quite speedy e but the comedown is pretty damn lethal. The thing is their sold in corner stores here so it kind of plays down how harsh they can be... esspecially if you think oh its legal, must be weak I'll take twice the dose... the whole really wanting to sleep but extremely vivid nothingness keeping you awak isnt very cool.

i defy an atheist to touch dmt and come back and say there is no higher power, or for xenosceps (what do you call people who dont believe in aliens ? well them) to take dmt and come back true to their belief , chewing salvia leaf over a period of hours is mind bending as is hawaiin copalandia mushrooms, but if you wanna new buzz N try just pushing pills up your arse.....

elemental wrote:just heard about peeps having some mad arse experiences, and some not coming back quite the same... like seeing the true fabric of the universe, meeting alien beings, realising the true nature of us as One ...

uh, where do i get some
serious tho

poax wrote:but if you wanna new buzz N try just pushing pills up your arse.....

LOL

sorry

poax that's so wrong in many ways

poax qualifies for the offtopic crew .congratulations.

mission statement is somewhere in offtopic if u aint got a danny

come on surely that is comedy gold ? no, your right (head drops in shame) i am officially off topic, still easties has been good lately innit.

it was funny, but also very wrong

poax wrote:come on surely that is comedy gold ? no, your right (head drops in shame) i am officially off topic, still easties has been good lately innit.