its just slowed down garage

lord_qzuma · Post by **lord_qzuma** » Mon Aug 07, 2006 9:20 pm

Dubstep = all forms of music put into one.

alex bk-bk · Post by **alex bk-bk** » Mon Aug 07, 2006 9:23 pm

aint no screamo or jive or bluegrass in there is there?

elemental · Post by **elemental** » Mon Aug 07, 2006 9:30 pm

Alex bk-bk wrote:
J_J wrote:it IS garage
THATS VITAL

if someone says that to you might as well give up. I'm sick of hearing "garage" being used as a derogatory word. Esepecially by dubstep fans. Especially by people who have recently become dubstep fans.

Fuckin ell i'd almost forgotten about those times, our music was being labelled as garage (it was more breakstep tho) and it was like a dirty word then!! But there wasnt any other pigeon hole for it to go in - maybe breaks, but the beats were too swung/broken/syncopated.

Dubstep's direct lineage is from the deeper darker side of uk garage.

blackdown · Post by **blackdown** » Mon Aug 07, 2006 9:41 pm

long live garage... "it aint no thing, if it aint got that swing"

ufo over easy · Post by **ufo over easy** » Mon Aug 07, 2006 9:46 pm

Slowed down garage? If anything it's sped up, despite the half step thing...

Anyone noticed tempos going up and up and up recently? I swear a lot of sets I hear now must be pushing 150bpm.. could almost by mixed with 1992 style hardcore.

Might be my imagination but still.

pangaea · Post by **pangaea** » Mon Aug 07, 2006 9:53 pm

UFO over easy wrote:Slowed down garage? If anything it's sped up, despite the half step thing...

Anyone noticed tempos going up and up and up recently? I swear a lot of sets I hear now must be pushing 150bpm.. could almost by mixed with 1992 style hardcore.

Might be my imagination but still.

I reckon Haunted must be 145bpm+ at normal speed.

Dubstep is just sped up trip-hop

ufo over easy · Post by **ufo over easy** » Mon Aug 07, 2006 9:57 pm

Pangaea wrote:
I reckon Haunted must be 145bpm+ at normal speed.

If it's a day

lord_qzuma · Post by **lord_qzuma** » Mon Aug 07, 2006 10:49 pm

UFO over easy wrote: .. could almost by mixed with 1992 style hardcore.

wow, u said 1992 style hardcore. AWESOME!!!

Big up all the people who still love 1992 style hardcore.

BOH!!

alex bk-bk · Post by **alex bk-bk** » Mon Aug 07, 2006 10:53 pm

Pangaea wrote:
Dubstep is just sped up trip-hop

brb slitting wrists

forensix (mcr) · Post by **forensix (mcr)** » Mon Aug 07, 2006 10:54 pm

ambient garage

yamato · Post by **yamato** » Mon Aug 07, 2006 10:54 pm

Lord_Qzuma wrote:
UFO over easy wrote: .. could almost by mixed with 1992 style hardcore.
wow, u said 1992 style hardcore. AWESOME!!!

Big up all the people who still love 1992 style hardcore.

BOH!!

krept · Post by **krept** » Tue Aug 08, 2006 3:25 am

it's still techno

subhuman · Post by **subhuman** » Tue Aug 08, 2006 3:31 am

deepsix wrote:I'm all for the flurry to the solar plexus, myself.

i do the hundred hand slap, e honda styles!

shonky · Post by **shonky** » Tue Aug 08, 2006 8:27 am

Alex bk-bk wrote:
J_J wrote:it IS garage
THATS VITAL

if someone says that to you might as well give up. I'm sick of hearing "garage" being used as a derogatory word. Esepecially by dubstep fans. Especially by people who have recently become dubstep fans.

Yep, like it never happened innit. Fact that all the "purists" that are new to the scene were probably listening to shit dnb and breakbeat a few months ago. Been raiding the garage vaults at Juno, etc and think it was a lot more forward thinking than people give it credit for, certainly a damn sight more original than most breakbeat and dnb in the last few years.

Pangaea wrote: Dubstep is just sped up trip-hop

In some cases that's so true it's unreal, apart from the stuff that sounds like illbient of course

Oh, and 1992 hardcore will never die - Trip to the Moon's got more invention and unpredictability in it than most tunes released in the last few years in anything, period.

What is everyone's problem with garage btw - can't dance for shit so you got to nod your head and sway, perhaps?

doomstep · Post by **doomstep** » Tue Aug 08, 2006 8:43 am

I have to call it garage, if I say things like dubstep or grime round ere I get looks like when a dog is confused and tilts it head t one side.

boomnoise · Post by **boomnoise** » Tue Aug 08, 2006 9:12 am

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jO2WZYoW9PQ

elemental · Post by **elemental** » Tue Aug 08, 2006 10:27 am

krept wrote:it's still techno

basically - yes
just different rhythmic structure

j_j · Post by **j_j** » Tue Aug 08, 2006 10:45 am

[quote="doomstep"]I have to call it garage, if I say things like dubstep or grime round ere I get looks like when a dog is confused and tilts it head t one side.[/quote

LOL ...stray and lame ..

j_j · Post by **j_j** » Tue Aug 08, 2006 10:46 am

Who remembers RAGGAGE ...???( ragga garage )

numaestro · Post by **numaestro** » Tue Aug 08, 2006 10:56 am

I always mixed dubstep with two-step garage - still do. Any of the old timers knows there were plenty of dubby (but not really dubstep) two-step cuts back in the day. True to say would've thought that today's sound is generally much much ndarker. Some stuff dont swing and is like sped up trip hop too. But hey who worries about labels TOO much. Some peeps would say for example that a lot of UK garage wasnt REAL garage anyways - pointing to the original New York / New Jersey blueprint with its religious/bohemian/gay and life affirming vibe. Wouldnt wrry about peeps trying to run your sound down - its them who are the losers!

its just slowed down garage

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