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Should quantum mechanics be used to make dubstep?

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According to the laws of quantum mechanics, in a chaotic universe, there are no definite answers; merely rough approximations of the truth.
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Post by a of dkr » Sat Nov 22, 2008 3:27 pm

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Post by the wiggle baron » Sat Nov 22, 2008 3:31 pm

...Unfortunately I sound like a complete tool saying this, as of course I could never put forward my own account of things.

But, I just straight up don't believe in quantum theory. Any of it. I think the idea that matter behaves differently on a molecular level is absurd, and while I dont think this on religious grounds, I believe that Einstein really was right in persuing his grand unified theory of everything. I think that while we probably can document quantum events as well as macro ones, we will only be making a constantly changing set of rules that encompasses and changes with everything we find. I think that out there somewhere is a theory of physics that will explain both general and quantum theory under the same umbrella and will be, by its very nature the end of physics!
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Post by kulture » Sun Nov 23, 2008 9:38 pm

The Wiggle Baron wrote:I think the idea that matter behaves differently on a molecular level is absurd... I believe that Einstein really was right in persuing his grand unified theory of everything.
Interesting... I suppose quantum mechanics can be viewed as a post modernist idea really. It doesn't conform to original perspectives, in that things behave in multidimensional ways when it comes to the building blocks of matter. Perhaps it's just the tool of maths is too precise. We are able to look almost too deeply in how the universe works. This leads to challenging concepts, which maths can explain and our perceptions cannot. Maths is above our own logic and the only way people will be able to grab some vague realisation of the ways in which we can utilise quantum mechanics is through the invention of everyday objects.

i.e. computers, teleporters, space travel



but trust me.. i aint an expert at all, all of what i just said could be bullshit. Sounded nice though...

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Post by ST100 » Sun Nov 23, 2008 9:50 pm

a of dkr wrote:
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thanks a lot for that link, I hadn´t seen it before.

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Post by ed teach » Mon Nov 24, 2008 1:36 pm

It's no big deal really. The main idea is that if we are to understand the inner/outer workings of the universe we need to stop separating ourselves from the observational process and start to figure ourselves in the equation. Simply put, the results of any (classical) experiment will always fallible because the effects of the observer will always affect the measurement and outcome of that experiment (eg. what you see is what you get, or more precisely what you want to see is what you want to get).

This attitude is far from postmodern, a viewpoint which arrogantly summarises all previous religious, scientific and social history whilst forgetting that the postmodern view would itself be impossible without all of those things having occurred (like standing on the shoulder of a giant and saying "I'm taller than you") and has no foundations other than it's own perspective and therefore fails to have any real validity because it removes itself from the possibility of criticism (mirroring the classical scientific attitude, justifying itself by altering it's own rules to suit its own needs). Quantum mechanics / thought / physics are essentially corrections to a distorted scientific viewpoint that has continued to prevail for hundreds of years - that we are separate from the universe. This attitude is wrong because even on the basest levels we all need to eat and shit - therefore we are all connected by various streams of energy. Plenty more connections exist if you have the time to consider everything you are affected by and, in turn every thing you have an effect on.

It's not spiritual mumbo jumbo or new age wooly-thinking, but a schism in accepted thought in order to correct the errors of our current way of thinking. This is our evolution in progress, I suggest we all get with it before being confined to extinction.
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Post by kulture » Mon Nov 24, 2008 4:38 pm

nice. It's to do with probability quite a bit ennit? Like, the universe runs on some form of probability that connects everything. Our perception forces a probability into a "reality"... well i'm talking in really simlistic terms.

I do like that idea that because we only realise the 4 self-contrived dimensions, we cannot comprehend the possibility that we are connected to everything in another dimension. One that is believed to be out of reach from us. Time and space are a bit too flimsy and slow for my liking lol i wanna be able to affect what's going on in a solar system, several galaxies away.

About that post modernist thing, i don't know what i'm chatting about... i couldn't describe the amount of different post modern definitions i've heard. I thought it just meant accepting that things aren't all building up in one direction and infact all directions are equally valid and should be explored.

Anyway, i'm sure in a hundred years (if we aint caused ourselves to collapse into a singularity and not even be touching the universe anymore) we'll discover some new bit of science about the universe that will render all we have thought, slightly useless... only slightly tho...

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Post by ed teach » Mon Nov 24, 2008 5:25 pm

Kulture wrote:Anyway, i'm sure in a hundred years (if we aint caused ourselves to collapse into a singularity and not even be touching the universe anymore) we'll discover some new bit of science about the universe that will render all we have thought, slightly useless... only slightly tho...
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Re: Hmmm...

Post by Shum » Fri Jul 27, 2012 3:06 am

yeah why not.

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