Resampling Basslines

darkmatteruk · Post by **darkmatteruk** » Thu Dec 04, 2008 10:41 am

i must say ive never resampled any of my basslines, but keep hearing its the only way to go.

i too would be eager to learn a little bit more about this as im thinking of giving it a go

jason burns · Post by **jason burns** » Thu Dec 04, 2008 2:01 pm

ok so if sampling is just turning your synth bassline into an audio file. is resampling just bouncing that audio file over and over again? how does that change the sound? i mean you would have to do something different each time before you bounce it again or your just copying the same thing over and over. isn't it what you do between the sampling that matters?

deadly_habit · Post by **deadly_habit** » Thu Dec 04, 2008 2:03 pm

jason burns wrote:ok so if sampling is just turning your synth bassline into an audio file. is resampling just bouncing that audio file over and over again? how does that change the sound? i mean you would have to do something different each time before you bounce it again or your just copying the same thing over and over. isn't it what you do between the sampling that matters?

yes say you have a bunch of automation on a sound and wanna do more with the same vst fxs etc
instead of raping your cpu some more, you resample/bounce to audio and then your first fx chain can be dropped thus saving cpu power

jblake · Post by **jblake** » Thu Dec 04, 2008 11:09 pm

black lotus wrote:
spencerTron wrote:why resample?
because it is also fun, and no matter how much processing you do resampling has a character of it's own that a synth will never be able to re-create.

I agree, but I think a lot of people resample instead of learning synthesis properly. Although I do like to resynthesise, the amount of times i've made something I could never have made by resynthesising just by modulating a modulator, or modulating the modulator of a modulator, etc... is... a lot of times.

step correct · Post by **step correct** » Fri Dec 05, 2008 11:54 pm

Can anyone post up a quick tutorial on this? In Cubase even?

Doesn't need to be too in depth just a quick run over and which rates to use..etc.

deadly_habit · Post by **deadly_habit** » Sat Dec 06, 2008 12:43 am

Step Correct wrote:Can anyone post up a quick tutorial on this? In Cubase even?
Doesn't need to be too in depth just a quick run over and which rates to use..etc.

off reg audio clip or sampler vst based?
i can do one

darklight1990 · Post by **darklight1990** » Sat Dec 06, 2008 8:51 pm

Resampling certainly adds extra dynamics to making basses for sure.. it's not something I use all the time, but when you really want to twist things up with filters and such it's pretty handy

I do agree to a certain extent about the heavy focus on technical precision in D&B, but hearing a clean sounding mixdown is definately a nice thing. Perhaps it's fair to say that good tunes require the right balance of technicality and straight up creativity..

As for originality, it can be hard when the genre bracket's been set though eh!

step correct · Post by **step correct** » Sat Dec 06, 2008 10:50 pm

Deadly Habit wrote:
Step Correct wrote:Can anyone post up a quick tutorial on this? In Cubase even?
Doesn't need to be too in depth just a quick run over and which rates to use..etc.
off reg audio clip or sampler vst based?
i can do one

Either or

deadly_habit · Post by **deadly_habit** » Sat Dec 06, 2008 11:28 pm

GV1 wrote:What do you mean resampling basslines? Putting them through a hardware sampler?

Whatever it is I'd like to know

basically it's say you have a bunch of fx/automation etc on a bassline/any sound
bouncing that version to audio and working further on it to free up cpu

deadly_habit · Post by **deadly_habit** » Sat Dec 06, 2008 11:28 pm

Step Correct wrote:
Deadly Habit wrote:
Step Correct wrote:Can anyone post up a quick tutorial on this? In Cubase even?
Doesn't need to be too in depth just a quick run over and which rates to use..etc.
off reg audio clip or sampler vst based?
i can do one
Either or

aight will try to do in next couple days
it's pretty straight forward though

step correct · Post by **step correct** » Sun Dec 07, 2008 1:08 am

Should be pretty easy on Cubase, no?
thnks man hook it up!

deadly_habit · Post by **deadly_habit** » Sun Dec 07, 2008 1:43 am

Step Correct wrote:Should be pretty easy on Cubase, no?
thnks man hook it up!

yea like i said before basically used to save cpu and add more modulation to an already modulated clip
but i'll do up a guide in cubase

theaccuria · Post by **theaccuria** » Sun Dec 07, 2008 1:52 pm

People say sampling frees up CPU - which it may do,

BUT, the slowist part of your computer is reading too and from the harddrive, so wouldnt sampling basslines etc SLOW down your computer as it has to wait to read from the HD every time you play the sound in your DAW?

I've never had problems with cpu power, but then again im running an overclocked E8400 at 3.6Ghz...

black lotus · Post by **black lotus** » Sun Dec 07, 2008 8:04 pm

GV1 wrote: Also it don't read directly from the HDD it loads the samples into the RAM and reads them from there. It's only when RAM starts running low it reads from the HDD. I think its called paging or something.

Basically, yes. All sample data is stored in the RAM for "real time" use. The more RAM you have, the better.

coi · Post by **coi** » Mon Dec 08, 2008 10:31 am

i definitely think resampling is more worthwhile if your going to put the sound through some outboard gear to warm it up a bit. My issue is that i have a feeling i'm losing something each time i resample. I've done it a bunch of times but i almost feel like the sound gets weaker. Although sometimes it does work out.

Its quiet convenient to deal with the audio files afterward since so many midi parameters can change whilst making a track. I do resample even if its just to get a sound down for reference. Too many times i've opened up a song and it sounds totally different than the last time.

author · Post by **author** » Mon Dec 08, 2008 1:01 pm

I've only started doing it in the last couple of months. 30 times seems incredibly excessive - is it necessary fot that?!

I just think of it in terms of eq shelving; so you could get three or four versions of your bass:
1. one you keep subby
2. second standard bass.
3. third and fourth could be high passed, reverbed and panned (L and R).

Hopefully would creat a big sound all together. At least it does in my head.......

I'm not sure I would bounce all these files to one wav though - might sound gash, rather leave it for the mix down. I would reserve that for drums.

step correct · Post by **step correct** » Mon Dec 08, 2008 6:30 pm

So let's say,...throw down a bassline on Massive or Albino or something. Bounce that out as EQd three different levels and then mix those three down?

If simply bouncing a bassline out to and audio clip and then working with that is resampling than sure,..I do that all the time. But that's just once.. what's with all this 30 times bizz then?

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