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Post by elgato » Fri Aug 25, 2006 11:05 am

lol at the collabs being gay! is it straight if the mc usually spits on 130bpm+? or is from jamaica? jokes

i reckon it could be sick, it could be shit, it depends entirely on how its done, but i'd certainly like to hear it experimented with. need to link that mix alex sounds like a heavy idea, the tasty grits tune is sick... dinesh is behind that is he not?

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Post by glorious » Fri Aug 25, 2006 11:36 am

Southern rap like Lil' john, eastside boys, ying yang twins, lil' wayne and all that crap = crunk

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Post by superisk » Fri Aug 25, 2006 12:34 pm

Foreign Beggars - 'Hold On' goes well with alot of tunes, as for the collabo idea, id like to hear Foreign Beggars record a track with someone, wouldnt want everyone to start doing it mind...

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Post by aems » Fri Aug 25, 2006 6:25 pm

Superisk wrote:Foreign Beggars - 'Hold On' goes well with alot of tunes, as for the collabo idea, id like to hear Foreign Beggars record a track with someone, wouldnt want everyone to start doing it mind...
have dropped the hold on accapella over dubstep a few times... works nicely... have to slow the accapella a touch mind... sounds phat... i got the pitch shift effect on my djm500 like...
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Post by alex bk-bk » Fri Aug 25, 2006 6:55 pm

you lot who say it don't work have no scope.

unless youve heard it and dont like it which is fair enough i guess ...

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Post by tronman » Fri Aug 25, 2006 8:37 pm

Superisk wrote:Foreign Beggars - 'Hold On' goes well with alot of tunes, as for the collabo idea, id like to hear Foreign Beggars record a track with someone, wouldnt want everyone to start doing it mind...
hold on. big tune.

foreign beggars got a track with vex'd/remixed by (cant remember) on their new mixtape init
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Post by alex bk-bk » Sat Aug 26, 2006 10:15 am

selector.dub.u wrote: 10) Loefah -"Rufage-Ruffage"
11) Young Dro - "Shoulder Lean"
12) Skream- "I" Loefah remix
13) Cherish feat the Youngbloods- "Do It "
14) Skream -"I" original
15) Mark One - "Slang"
15) Currency feat Lil Wayne and Remy Ma- "Where Da Cash At"
16) Benga -On South Side Dubstars- "?"
that's a goodlooking tracklist right thuurrrrrr
listening now, sounding good. this is the shit im after. dub u im gonna have to message u about this combo

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Post by jac52 » Sat Aug 26, 2006 5:46 pm

mc accapellas over dirty dubstep beats always turns me on. There's this mix at barefiles- http://www.barefiles.com/download.php?id=704 might be up you lots streets (if it aint old news) does an alright job at mixing hip hop accapellas with some dubstep. Can sound quality need to see some more shit like this

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Post by unlikely » Sat Aug 26, 2006 6:17 pm

brklss wrote:D1 - Plan B
dear god please no! D1 is one of the best producers out there and Plan B is a hyped up talent free wwwwaceman, what would that acheive?

all about a caspa and raekwon collab, or MF Doom/Vordul and whoever gets to them first. Or toasty boy and toasty taylor= toast my grill!

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Post by selector.dub.u » Sat Aug 26, 2006 11:04 pm

Alex bk-bk wrote:
selector.dub.u wrote: 10) Loefah -"Rufage-Ruffage"
11) Young Dro - "Shoulder Lean"
12) Skream- "I" Loefah remix
13) Cherish feat the Youngbloods- "Do It "
14) Skream -"I" original
15) Mark One - "Slang"
15) Currency feat Lil Wayne and Remy Ma- "Where Da Cash At"
16) Benga -On South Side Dubstars- "?"
that's a goodlooking tracklist right thuurrrrrr
listening now, sounding good. this is the shit im after. dub u im gonna have to message u about this combo
Well thank you sir! :)
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Post by selector.dub.u » Sat Aug 26, 2006 11:06 pm

jac52 wrote:mc accapellas over dirty dubstep beats always turns me on. There's this mix at barefiles- http://www.barefiles.com/download.php?id=704 might be up you lots streets (if it aint old news) does an alright job at mixing hip hop accapellas with some dubstep. Can sound quality need to see some more shit like this
Thanks for the tip. Gonna listen to that later.
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Post by aems » Sun Aug 27, 2006 4:30 am

unlikely wrote:
brklss wrote:D1 - Plan B
dear god please no! D1 is one of the best producers out there and Plan B is a hyped up talent free wwwwaceman, what would that acheive?

all about a caspa and raekwon collab, or MF Doom/Vordul and whoever gets to them first. Or toasty boy and toasty taylor= toast my grill!
are u mad? plan b is phenomenal... sheer talent, and a sound lad to boot... performed at my in-store jam twice... for free!!!
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Post by EmpfÃnger » Mon Aug 28, 2006 9:34 pm

jac52 wrote:mc accapellas over dirty dubstep beats always turns me on. There's this mix at barefiles- http://www.barefiles.com/download.php?id=704 might be up you lots streets (if it aint old news) does an alright job at mixing hip hop accapellas with some dubstep. Can sound quality need to see some more shit like this
How can you fit hiphop accapellas of 90bpm over a dubstep tune of 140bpm?
Here are 2 hiphoptracks in the mix, which fit in quiet well.
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Post by hookup » Mon Aug 28, 2006 9:53 pm

most crunk hiphop is somewhere between 70-80 which you can halftime under dubstep. OTher than that the usual 90-100 bpm hiphop you'll have to pitch shift and use key correction to keep vocals sounding normal - although sometimes the ultra low vocals sound tight.

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Post by selector.dub.u » Mon Aug 28, 2006 10:11 pm

hookup wrote:most crunk hiphop is somewhere between 70-80 which you can halftime under dubstep. OTher than that the usual 90-100 bpm hiphop you'll have to pitch shift and use key correction to keep vocals sounding normal - although sometimes the ultra low vocals sound tight.
word.
or put your dubstep records on 33.
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Post by lord_qzuma » Mon Aug 28, 2006 10:22 pm

keep hip hop/rap far away from this sound.

very far away!!!
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Post by selector.dub.u » Mon Aug 28, 2006 11:29 pm

Lord_Qzuma wrote:keep hip hop/rap far away from this sound.

very far away!!!
lol
Why?
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Post by lord_qzuma » Tue Aug 29, 2006 12:20 pm

Why you ask?

Dubstep for me is an original sound.

It just dont want it to become contaminated by the overly bad vibe hiphop and rap promotes.

I remember the beginning of the Rap era, back in the 80's, when it was about grabing you parents crappy disco records and making a beat mixin em over a tape player. That is talent and good times as well.

Now, its some idiot MC, promoting violence and degrading everything around him.

Do you really want that vibe mixing with this sound?

Please keepin mind, i dont not hate rap or hip hop. It just needs to stay in its own world. If these too worlds are ment to combine, let them combine on the production side and keep the rappers/mc's far away.

Keep the sound original and dont let it become overly commercialized.
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Post by juntistik » Tue Aug 29, 2006 4:36 pm

^^ i completely agree.

What is being coined as "crunk" hip hop (lil jon, yin yang twins, all that shit), is music that completely lacks originality and skill.. Hip hop for me is somethat far different than the new age, commercialized shit music that i consider rap. Keep rap far away from dubstep, now a sick mc rhyming about the daily trials and tribulations of life, or anything really, as long as he uses some type of intellect (rather than bullshit words that are created rather than pulled from the vocabulary of the artist), is a different story.

i have no problem with seeing more mc'ing or hip hop mixed with dub step

just keep the fake bullshit of the rap scene out of dub step.
it will just attract the fake scene that jumped on the rap fad like flies on shit.

and this wasnt meant to offend anyone who likes rap, that is, if your not a 16 year old white girl living in massachussets or some shit, who is fed everything on a silver plate, but feels like she has to "nuck if she bucks"

Rofl.

just my 2 cents

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Post by superisk » Tue Aug 29, 2006 4:58 pm

Dubstep already crosses over so easily with Grime, most UK Hip hop is alot more positive, forget about Crunk or any of that shite, but some UK Hip Hop artists would sound sick over Dubstep. Already metioned Foreign Beggars, downtempo Roots Manuva, Terra Firma, Double D Dagger etc...

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