Careers in the music industry

Sharmaji · Post by **Sharmaji** » Thu Sep 10, 2009 3:10 pm

other bits:

this week i've played drumset and percussion on an upcoming "exotica" release

helped in the contracting for a European tour

taught lessons

remixed a tune

engineered someone else's production.

many, many hats. again, i don't know anyone who 'just' does one thing. anyone who's not over 50 and staring down a career that'll be totally irrelevant in 10 years, that is.

ruckus49 · Post by **ruckus49** » Thu Sep 10, 2009 3:41 pm

I have a degree in audio production from a 4 year university, but I really dont like working on other peoples projects. I also despise the ultra cutthroat nature of the entertainment business. I don't want a job where I'd have to be on a computer all day either. I want to be able to work on my music as much as I can on my comp when I get home, so I dont need to be staring at a glowing rectangle every waking hour.

anyone know how to get into audio equipment repair/ maintenance? I've been thinking of going to a tech school to get certified as an electrician.

futures_untold · Post by **futures_untold** » Thu Sep 10, 2009 4:45 pm

ruckus49 wrote:I have a degree in audio production from a 4 year university, but I really dont like working on other peoples projects. I also despise the ultra cutthroat nature of the entertainment business. I don't want a job where I'd have to be on a computer all day either. I want to be able to work on my music as much as I can on my comp when I get home, so I dont need to be staring at a glowing rectangle every waking hour.

anyone know how to get into audio equipment repair/ maintenance? I've been thinking of going to a tech school to get certified as an electrician.

I feel ya on that.

Starting out as a certified electrician will undoubtedly help when it comes to applying for tech/repair jobs.

I'm just about to retake my GCSE Math at 26 so I can figure out all the basic shit that is currently over my head. Trying to build a compressor vst and my math is simply lacking. I only need to work out compression ratios, knee curves and comparitor levels, yet in my mind it simply doesn't add up!!

Good luck with the electicians course!

nitz · Post by **nitz** » Thu Sep 10, 2009 4:59 pm

futures_untold wrote:
ruckus49 wrote:I have a degree in audio production from a 4 year university, but I really dont like working on other peoples projects. I also despise the ultra cutthroat nature of the entertainment business. I don't want a job where I'd have to be on a computer all day either. I want to be able to work on my music as much as I can on my comp when I get home, so I dont need to be staring at a glowing rectangle every waking hour.

anyone know how to get into audio equipment repair/ maintenance? I've been thinking of going to a tech school to get certified as an electrician.
I feel ya on that.

Starting out as a certified electrician will undoubtedly help when it comes to applying for tech/repair jobs.

I'm just about to retake my GCSE Math at 26 so I can figure out all the basic shit that is currently over my head. Trying to build a compressor vst and my math is simply lacking. I only need to work out compression ratios, knee curves and comparitor levels, yet in my mind it simply doesn't add up!!

Good luck with the electicians course!

retaking GCSE maths now

dam why have you left it till you were 26? and this vst compressor you are trying to build, is it personally for you or are you trying to make abit of money by selling it as a product?

futures_untold · Post by **futures_untold** » Thu Sep 10, 2009 5:13 pm

Nitz wrote:
futures_untold wrote:
ruckus49 wrote:I have a degree in audio production from a 4 year university, but I really dont like working on other peoples projects. I also despise the ultra cutthroat nature of the entertainment business. I don't want a job where I'd have to be on a computer all day either. I want to be able to work on my music as much as I can on my comp when I get home, so I dont need to be staring at a glowing rectangle every waking hour.

anyone know how to get into audio equipment repair/ maintenance? I've been thinking of going to a tech school to get certified as an electrician.
I feel ya on that.

Starting out as a certified electrician will undoubtedly help when it comes to applying for tech/repair jobs.

I'm just about to retake my GCSE Math at 26 so I can figure out all the basic shit that is currently over my head. Trying to build a compressor vst and my math is simply lacking. I only need to work out compression ratios, knee curves and comparitor levels, yet in my mind it simply doesn't add up!!

Good luck with the electicians course!
retaking GCSE maths now dam why have you left it till you were 26? and this vst compressor you are trying to build, is it personally for you or are you trying to make abit of money by selling it as a product?

I have a Ba DipHE in Youth Work yet no math GCSE...

When I was a kid, taking drugs and going to parties was the most important thing to me. When I stopped taking drugs, I just wanted to travel. I've never felt ready to resit my math GCSE. I hit stumbling blocks with my math so often now that it is finally time to bite the bullet.

For advanced music tech stuff, math becomes essential. Try reading a few books on dsp and it quickly becomes clear that math is important. Furthermore, there are so many applications of maths in life that anyone really is better off with some basic knowledge.

I'm also going to take a French GCSE, so that by June next year, I'll be ready to go travelling with money in my pocket, and the ability to count!

That compressor. I want to build a series of plugins both for personal use and for sale. The less I have to work as I travel, the better! If I'm going to spend the next 10 months in one place, that gives me plenty of time to develop some plugins.

Watch this space!

nitz · Post by **nitz** » Thu Sep 10, 2009 7:00 pm

futures_untold wrote:
Nitz wrote:
futures_untold wrote:
ruckus49 wrote:I have a degree in audio production from a 4 year university, but I really dont like working on other peoples projects. I also despise the ultra cutthroat nature of the entertainment business. I don't want a job where I'd have to be on a computer all day either. I want to be able to work on my music as much as I can on my comp when I get home, so I dont need to be staring at a glowing rectangle every waking hour.

anyone know how to get into audio equipment repair/ maintenance? I've been thinking of going to a tech school to get certified as an electrician.
I feel ya on that.

Starting out as a certified electrician will undoubtedly help when it comes to applying for tech/repair jobs.

I'm just about to retake my GCSE Math at 26 so I can figure out all the basic shit that is currently over my head. Trying to build a compressor vst and my math is simply lacking. I only need to work out compression ratios, knee curves and comparitor levels, yet in my mind it simply doesn't add up!!

Good luck with the electicians course!
retaking GCSE maths now dam why have you left it till you were 26? and this vst compressor you are trying to build, is it personally for you or are you trying to make abit of money by selling it as a product?
I have a Ba DipHE in Youth Work yet no math GCSE...

When I was a kid, taking drugs and going to parties was the most important thing to me. When I stopped taking drugs, I just wanted to travel. I've never felt ready to resit my math GCSE. I hit stumbling blocks with my math so often now that it is finally time to bite the bullet.

For advanced music tech stuff, math becomes essential. Try reading a few books on dsp and it quickly becomes clear that math is important. Furthermore, there are so many applications of maths in life that anyone really is better off with some basic knowledge.

I'm also going to take a French GCSE, so that by June next year, I'll be ready to go travelling with money in my pocket, and the ability to count!

That compressor. I want to build a series of plugins both for personal use and for sale. The less I have to work as I travel, the better! If I'm going to spend the next 10 months in one place, that gives me plenty of time to develop some plugins.

Watch this space!

oo good god.. drinking

taking drugs

not going to school

now now that don't sound too good, but there others do

Am glad you have got a nice plan set out for a yew years, set your self some targets and work towards getting them. and your plan does sound quite interesting

i can also see you like to travel about which is a good thing, you get to see place you not seen, meet new wonderfully people and of course you have a great out of doors. well Future i wise you the best in the near distance my friend (Y)

futures_untold · Post by **futures_untold** » Thu Sep 10, 2009 7:49 pm

Thanks for the encouragement haha!

I find it difficult to believe anyone who grew up in the 90ies in the UK didn't take drugs. I'm unsure if you're genuinely shocked haha. I lived in Gloucester and Bristol, and literally everyone I knew in both places were involved at various levels. I'm no pikey scally either.

Anyway, that stuff simply isn't motivating anymore. Feeling empowered through learning and travelling is!

What's odd is I want to make bass music that gets played on big rigs, yet most people listening to big rigs are munted. As that's not a scene I aspire too anymore, it kinda makes me question why I'm into music at all? (Answers on a postcard to the usual address). Personal enjoyment of the creative process and meeting like minded people are my non-capitalist motivations.

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Since computing is accessible to most people these days, custom software applications are becoming more commonplace. Watching guys like Shitmat doing their thing really inspires me to develop my own music tools that do what I want them to do in a fashion that suits my needs. Software like Reason (which I loved using for years) simply don't allow for the level of customisation that I want.

I'm starting with synthedit, but when I have the motivation I'll move on to C (after my xml/css is up to scratch).

There are guys making money through music tech (Propellerheads, NI etc etc). Why compete against millions creating the content when I can compete against hundreds making the tools of the trade?

I'm not going to give my game away fully, but I've learnt a lot about people interested in music production by frequenting DSF, KVR and other music forums. It has given me ideas about how software should move forwards. Most of the software available currently isn't near what I'd like to see and plan to make.

I don't want to be in the limelight. I'd rather be the guy in the corner of the studio giving 'big name artist' executive production advice.

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If I can make money from the music industry, I'll be liberated from the daily grind that most people have to go through.

Why get up for a 7am start as a skivvy when I could make more money waking up at a reasonable hour like 10am doing software dev and graphics?

If it really works out, then I'll work out ways of taking my work with me on a laptop to foriegn places with a better climate!

So far I have only been to a few places. France, Belgium, Holland, Germany, Morocco and the US of A.

Fuck the Protestant work ethic and do it ol' Blue Eyes way!

futures_untold · Post by **futures_untold** » Thu Sep 10, 2009 7:54 pm

And for others looking for routes into the music industry, read this thread ---> http://dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.php?t ... highlight=

"A game of chess is like a sword fight. You must think first before you move..." From Wu Tang Clan - Enter the Wu-Tang (36 Chambers).

nitz · Post by **nitz** » Thu Sep 10, 2009 10:51 pm

No problem mate (Y) hope it all works out

No no i was only joking about that man, everyone in some point of there life will do one of thoses things its just the society we will in you cant really help it.

Because music is you soul and passion dont question it, it was born in your blood steam

just carry on making the bass that makes you life thumb (sub bass:) ) and the other stuff now and again too.

I follow your point there mate, i love reason too, its the only DAW i every used, when i started i got FL played with it for like 2 hours and fort nah this is not for it its shit to put it in a nice way lol. So i got reason and never moved ever and till this day am still using its. I hear you point on customisation and other factors that are harder to do within reason, for example when i learning mixing the basic stuff i found doing mixing in reason was really hard, it sounded dull. And this kind of thrived me to learn to get a decent mix (because at this time i found out that the Widdler used reason for his songs and reason only produced and engineered all within reason. So he was a really big inspiration to be, because he was living breathing proof that it can be done! ) and now am go glad i never moved to anything else, it took a lot of effect and work to
be able to get good mixdowns in reason but it was all worth it. and this was also kind of a personal goal i wanted to achive

How much customisation are you after?

oo synthedit is a software where you can build VST's?

yes i would agree with you there, there are so many valuable people on DSF and others too, normally they are very helpfully and a great laugh at times too

come on look at us and alpaca
for example if there was no DFS , we would not be having this conv now ! ...

yeh trust, so you are saying there is money to be made from software dev, i would have to agree there no just take a look at massive how many customers they have.

good conv btw
sorry for any bad English if there is am dyslexia and did not double check the post,

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