LOT OF BAD PRESSINGS, WHY?

police in helicopter · Post by **police in helicopter** » Thu Mar 19, 2009 12:59 pm

peak wrote:
Surface_Tension wrote:
peak wrote:i have already ordered many many records, but i never received so many bad pressings, like this year!!! has someone the same problems!?
which records?
many many... el-b, bullion, afefe iku, zomby, prime numbers... many more!

poor acetates / cut + bad stampers = bad quality vinyl pressing

whineo · Post by **whineo** » Thu Mar 19, 2009 1:03 pm

THE-VOICE-OF-REASON wrote: Transition are nothing special , their mastering and cuts are very average
and they dont put much time and effort into their work.
its funny to see them be adopted as the place to go for mastering by a scene which values sound quality and BASS.

you're joking right? what on earth are you going on about? what are you basing this on?

setspeed · Post by **setspeed** » Thu Mar 19, 2009 1:06 pm

THE-VOICE-OF-REASON wrote: There is a LOT cheaper and BETTER place to master in the uk right now
Precise , Heathmans , Metropolis , Masterpeice are head and shoulders above transition and cheaper.

you realise heathmans shut down last year?

T_macabre · Post by **T_macabre** » Thu Mar 19, 2009 1:13 pm

THE-VOICE-OF-REASON wrote:
TNT wrote:
no doubt Transition are up to their eyeballs on stuff to master
Transition are nothing special , their mastering and cuts are very average
and they dont put much time and effort into their work.
its funny to see them be adopted as the place to go for mastering by a scene which values sound quality and BASS.
There is a LOT cheaper and BETTER place to master in the uk right now
Precise , Heathmans , Metropolis , Masterpeice are head and shoulders above transition and cheaper.

i did state Heathmans had closed, and as a result of this Transition were probably alot busier!

the-voice-of-reason · Post by **the-voice-of-reason** » Thu Mar 19, 2009 1:27 pm

[quote="Whineo"][quote="THE-VOICE-OF-REASON"]
Transition are nothing special , their mastering and cuts are very average
and they dont put much time and effort into their work.
its funny to see them be adopted as the place to go for mastering by a scene which values sound quality and BASS.[/quote]

you're joking right? what on earth are you going on about? what are you basing this on?

[/quote] Experience's , what are you basing your theory's on?

elgato · Post by **elgato** » Thu Mar 19, 2009 1:33 pm

THE-VOICE-OF-REASON wrote:
Whineo wrote:
THE-VOICE-OF-REASON wrote: Transition are nothing special , their mastering and cuts are very average
and they dont put much time and effort into their work.
its funny to see them be adopted as the place to go for mastering by a scene which values sound quality and BASS.
you're joking right? what on earth are you going on about? what are you basing this on?
Experience's , what are you basing your theory's on?

could you expand a bit on what factors have led to this judgement? its directly contrary to what i have heard from many reputable sources

string · Post by **string** » Thu Mar 19, 2009 1:47 pm

NGyoshi wrote:
My The Bug - Stompin sounds so pathetic that I don't even bother even getting it out of it's sleeve.
init, its disappointing when i get a vinyl and its about as thick as a peace of paper, ant war dub, now thats a chunky vinyl

This, got the Martyn Wedged Chicken Remix on Ostgut (?) and its the thinest bloody vinyl I've ever laid my hands on, its like the quality of some of my dads old soul or rock vinyl. And saw Boomkat was seeling it for around 7-8quid!! The cheek!

whineo · Post by **whineo** » Thu Mar 19, 2009 2:31 pm

THE-VOICE-OF-REASON wrote:
Whineo wrote:
THE-VOICE-OF-REASON wrote: Transition are nothing special , their mastering and cuts are very average
and they dont put much time and effort into their work.
its funny to see them be adopted as the place to go for mastering by a scene which values sound quality and BASS.
you're joking right? what on earth are you going on about? what are you basing this on?
Experience's , what are you basing your theory's on?

...not that I stated a 'theory' in my above post but....

-the extensive list of genre defining 12"s and albums that have shaped the scene over the years

-my ears

...... you say 'experiences', that's rather vauge. do you mean experiences of them mastering/pressing your own Dubs?

spike01 · Post by **spike01** » Thu Mar 19, 2009 2:35 pm

I'm amazed to see someone actually coming out and trying to slag off Transition, are you mental? Jason and his team have dubstep mastering on lock. Now, if the label THEN doesn't want to spend the money taking that master and getting it pressed at a good pressing factory, on good quality vinyl, that's a totally different matter...

(Edited for clarity)

ufo over easy · Post by **ufo over easy** » Thu Mar 19, 2009 2:37 pm

the thickness of vinyl is not some fail-safe barometer by which you can measure sound quality.

manufacturing a record is a complicated process, and there are a lot of things that can go wrong. if you buy a product which doesn't sound great, you're entitled to be upset but you aren't really in a position to make any assumptions about which parts of the process may have gone wrong. you're certainly not in a position to start slating experienced and skilled mastering engineers

surface_tension · Post by **surface_tension** » Thu Mar 19, 2009 2:46 pm

spike01 wrote:I'm amazed to see someone actually coming out and trying to slag off Transition, are you mental? Jason and his team have dubstep mastering on lock. Now, if the label doesn't want to spend the money getting it pressed at a good pressing factory, on good quality vinyl, that's a totally different matter...

Transition aren't the only good plant man. A lot of people use other plants with great quality and results.

powerpill · Post by **powerpill** » Thu Mar 19, 2009 2:57 pm

Surface_Tension wrote:
spike01 wrote:I'm amazed to see someone actually coming out and trying to slag off Transition, are you mental? Jason and his team have dubstep mastering on lock. Now, if the label doesn't want to spend the money getting it pressed at a good pressing factory, on good quality vinyl, that's a totally different matter...
Transition aren't the only good plant man. A lot of people use other plants with great quality and results.

theyre not a plant.

i don't get people who come on here slagging off people like this, surely if you have bought a product which is not up to your standards, take it back to where you bought it from

peak · Post by **peak** » Thu Mar 19, 2009 3:30 pm

mrbeatnick wrote:
peak wrote:bullion
what was wrong about this? let me know please!

my copy has very very loud noises in the first 30 sek of the each track (except one)... and than from time 2 time again... i have used 3 different catrige... with same results...

wondering that most of the noises are on the right channel... can someone tell me why?

mrbeatnick · Post by **mrbeatnick** » Thu Mar 19, 2009 4:20 pm

hmmm which ep is this peak? Bullion "young heartache"? not noticed any problems with my copies.

peak · Post by **peak** » Thu Mar 19, 2009 4:23 pm

mrbeatnick wrote:hmmm which ep is this peak? Bullion "young heartache"? not noticed any problems with my copies.

yes, it's that one! maybe i'm unlucky @ the moment...

jon ad · Post by **jon ad** » Thu Mar 19, 2009 4:45 pm

These noises that are being referred to are typically part of the plating process, and have nothing to do with the cut anyway. A lot of it is a issue referred to as "Ocean wash"", which is when impurities build up in the nickle galvanics bath. It's also hard to nail down fidelity issues, as it is all depending in th individual track, and what the mastering tech was given to work with. The mix they where given could have been pushed through the roof and/or overcompressed, which makes the material really difficult to apply to the physical limitations of a phonographic groove. So it really is unsightful to demonize any one company, really, an every situation is different.

maximus · Post by **maximus** » Thu Mar 19, 2009 4:52 pm

buraka som sistema-kalemba (reso remix)- fucking terrible pressing

distance-victim support-also fucking terrible pressing

shredexx · Post by **shredexx** » Thu Mar 19, 2009 5:09 pm

Dubplates and Mastering in Berlin is definitely my studio of choice, even if transition is just around the corner from my yard...

tafuri wrote:
Court wrote:
taal mala wrote:
shredexx wrote:master on Coki - road rage is horrendous... hate playing that song because i always have a completely different sounding tune in my head and when i put it on... its just flat out muddiness.
what he said.
coki's my favourite producer, but like you say. shocking master on this one.
Sort of the same problem with 'Debt' in my opinion.

dunno, Debt sounds a bit nicer... no where near as flat as road rage.

g-man · Post by **g-man** » Thu Mar 19, 2009 5:13 pm

Maximus wrote:distance-victim support-also fucking terrible pressing

you must have gotten a bad copy cause mine sounds great

dubsteptim · Post by **dubsteptim** » Thu Mar 19, 2009 6:29 pm

what zomby 12" did u get? i know theres a thread on here about one of the 12"s, a bit in the batch were poor pressing but there were also good ones as well

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