my computer is crap and i'm poor

oneliam · Post by **oneliam** » Thu Apr 23, 2009 8:19 am

yellowhighlighter wrote:can you only use the sounds though? i know it sounds stupid but i've just been messing around with the demos and maybe some features are disabled but is there a way of running a pattern from reason in fruity loops. not just using sounds but using stuff from the matrix pattern sequencer or the arp.

Yeah man course. Say if you created a drum pattern in Redrum, or a pattern in the matrix. U'd just copy it to the sequencer on reason, export it as a midi file and import it to FL/ableton or whatever your using. Then the MIDI out on the mixer in (Cubase in my case) would be the matrix/redrum.

Oh and btw, your computer doesn't seem that bad if it has 3gb of ram. Should be able to handle shit alright...

blunt-dmo · Post by **blunt-dmo** » Thu Apr 23, 2009 8:49 am

enfant wrote:fruity loops does is better then ableton.

thats a stupid and ill thought out comment

all daws have their pros and cons and its mainly about personal prefference

yellowhighlighter · Post by **yellowhighlighter** » Thu Apr 23, 2009 10:11 am

oneliam wrote:
yellowhighlighter wrote:can you only use the sounds though? i know it sounds stupid but i've just been messing around with the demos and maybe some features are disabled but is there a way of running a pattern from reason in fruity loops. not just using sounds but using stuff from the matrix pattern sequencer or the arp.
Yeah man course. Say if you created a drum pattern in Redrum, or a pattern in the matrix. U'd just copy it to the sequencer on reason, export it as a midi file and import it to FL/ableton or whatever your using. Then the MIDI out on the mixer in (Cubase in my case) would be the matrix/redrum.

Oh and btw, your computer doesn't seem that bad if it has 3gb of ram. Should be able to handle shit alright...

ok cool thanks man. i was couldn't get this to work. i'm used to working with just hardware and i never messed with MIDI ever! i know it's one of the things you're supposed to learn first in music production but i just kept everything in audio mode and sampled all my stuff in my MPC.

i'm just worried about my comp because my GHz is only 1.8 (i think). i should be getting a new computer on my return to college but reason 4 (demo at least) seems to work fine on my laptop. i've also been trying to create songs in flstudio that use a lot of FX and just keep on adding channels to see how far i can push my laptop.

blunt-dmo · Post by **blunt-dmo** » Thu Apr 23, 2009 10:39 am

is it a pc or a mac?
if its windows right click my computer and go to properties, it will tell you what model cpu it is as ghz means nothing really
1.8 ghz p4 celeron = bad 1.8 core2duo or amd x2 or something similar= ok

as for midi, dont be scared of it, in most cases with a midi keyboard and a up to date daw VST's and audio renders should be pretty easy to set up and in a lot of cases detected from the off.

it gets a bit more complicated when you add multiple controllers but its only periferals. think of it as adding a compatible kb and mouse to your computer.

midi is not a demon, do not be scared of it

yellowhighlighter · Post by **yellowhighlighter** » Thu Apr 23, 2009 10:50 am

it's pentium dualcore. i'm not sure but i didn't think that flstudio had multi-core support? i don't even know what that means i'm terrible with computers.

i'm trying to to read up on MIDI now. it's kind of confusing (a lot confusing) but i guess i have to learn sometime.

Brisance · Post by **Brisance** » Thu Apr 23, 2009 10:58 am

notch wrote: Can fruity time stretch and change the tempo of the accapella without changing the pitch??

Get your head out your ass, of course it does.

crytek · Post by **crytek** » Thu Apr 23, 2009 11:48 am

Renoise.

blunt-dmo · Post by **blunt-dmo** » Thu Apr 23, 2009 12:03 pm

yellowhighlighter wrote:it's pentium dualcore. i'm not sure but i didn't think that flstudio had multi-core support? i don't even know what that means i'm terrible with computers.

i'm trying to to read up on MIDI now. it's kind of confusing (a lot confusing) but i guess i have to learn sometime.

if its a pentium D then yeah its a bit dated.
id stick with a DAW that isnt graphic intensive so that it doesnt use CPU as much to draw events.
probably reaper that was linked earlier is your best bet or earlier versions of reason like 3

with a pentium D 1.8 you will struggle with ableton imo
also look into using asio4all as an audio driver for the daws aswell if you dont have a dedicated sound card

i'm trying to to read up on MIDI now. it's kind of confusing (a lot confusing) but i guess i have to learn sometime.

?
to start off with if you just have a pc music kb and software then theres not much to learn apart from connecting the stuff together and opening the daw.
most daws render mix midi and audio together in such a way that the end result is that its diplayed and managed in the same way as audio.
most daws with render it into the audio mixdown without any messing about like in the old days with hardware midi needing a sysexdump

pshtt · Post by **pshtt** » Thu Apr 23, 2009 12:32 pm

Renoise.

I use it on my Mac mini G4 with 512 Mb RAM. My computer is even crappier than yours.

But Renoise works smoothly.

yellowhighlighter · Post by **yellowhighlighter** » Thu Apr 23, 2009 5:49 pm

i know times are different now but when i remember getting into music first and being told to stay the hell away from trackers. renoise seems to have bridged the gap a little. i'm going to download the demo and give it a go. is it hard to get into? i know that the latest version will support rewire also so that will be cool.

Blunt-DMO wrote:
yellowhighlighter wrote:it's pentium dualcore. i'm not sure but i didn't think that flstudio had multi-core support? i don't even know what that means i'm terrible with computers.

i'm trying to to read up on MIDI now. it's kind of confusing (a lot confusing) but i guess i have to learn sometime.
if its a pentium D then yeah its a bit dated.
id stick with a DAW that isnt graphic intensive so that it doesnt use CPU as much to draw events.
probably reaper that was linked earlier is your best bet or earlier versions of reason like 3

with a pentium D 1.8 you will struggle with ableton imo
also look into using asio4all as an audio driver for the daws aswell if you dont have a dedicated sound card
i'm trying to to read up on MIDI now. it's kind of confusing (a lot confusing) but i guess i have to learn sometime.
?
to start off with if you just have a pc music kb and software then theres not much to learn apart from connecting the stuff together and opening the daw.
most daws render mix midi and audio together in such a way that the end result is that its diplayed and managed in the same way as audio.
most daws with render it into the audio mixdown without any messing about like in the old days with hardware midi needing a sysexdump

actually my computer is intel core 2 duo. i thought that was the same as dualcore (i don't know maybe it is).

reason 4 demo seems to run fine on my laptop. i've run some songs and am able to add quite a lot of FX and instruments and i see no problem.

one thing though from reading through the archives here, people seem to not like the sequencer in reason 4. the only sequencer i've worked, apart from step sequencers, is the MPC. it's where i've constructed all my songs. i don't have much experience in the realm of software sequencers.

people say that the fl studio sequencer is superior. but aren't all sequencers technically the same, ie. they do the same thing? so is it just that the interface for reason is not as good as that of flstudio or ableton? or maybe i'm missing something completely here. do the sequencers in ableton and flstudio have abilities that the reason sequencer does not?

futures_untold · Post by **futures_untold** » Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:08 pm

All sequencers do is arrange the elements in your song the way you want them.

The three main types of sequencer programs include:

MPC style grids - FL Studio, Beatmaker 2000 (lol)

Left to Right blocks - Cubase/Pro Tools/Logic/Reason etc etc (FL studio also has this)

Top to bottom Trackers - Renoise (If you like the matrix digital rain, these are for you)

blunt-dmo · Post by **blunt-dmo** » Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:12 pm

core 2 duo is not a pentium dual core. those are pentium D's
Core 2 Duo is Core 2 duo and if its a 1.8 ghz core 2 then its fine tbh

shift · Post by **shift** » Thu Apr 23, 2009 7:31 pm

notch wrote:Can fruity time stretch and change the tempo of the accapella without changing the pitch??

....yes it can

notch · Post by **notch** » Thu Apr 23, 2009 7:35 pm

enfant wrote:fruity loops does is better then ableton.

BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA... ok;)

Brisance · Post by **Brisance** » Thu Apr 23, 2009 8:41 pm

Does Ableton have a peak controller or formula controller, that you can link to ANY parameter? No.

Nah, not dissing ableton, just firing back at notchs smugness.

notch · Post by **notch** » Thu Apr 23, 2009 9:25 pm

Brisance wrote:Does Ableton have a peak controller or formula controller, that you can link to ANY parameter? No.

Nah, not dissing ableton, just firing back at notchs smugness.

I am dumb.. what is a peak controller or formula controller is that only with gay loops..i mean fruitty loops.

Brisance · Post by **Brisance** » Thu Apr 23, 2009 9:39 pm

I'd rather not argue with you, because you obviously don't know how to keep an intelligent debate. Instead I am going to quote dza.

notch · Post by **notch** » Thu Apr 23, 2009 9:46 pm

wow.. its ok buddy.. do you need a hug? May be you just need to smoke more weed..

yeager · Post by **yeager** » Fri Apr 24, 2009 2:03 am

ableton live.

blunt-dmo · Post by **blunt-dmo** » Fri Apr 24, 2009 8:43 am

notch how about fo you trolling idiot

my computer is crap and i'm poor

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