The most ridiculous comments thread

[jrisreal]

Maybe I missed something. But music is music..
I know theory and can play multiple instruments, but if someone with no music knowledge can bust out a better tune than me, then much respect to them.
Someone who is not trained coming up with something better than someone who is trained.. seems like an accomplishment to me. Think of people who play just by ear.. they get respect, why not the same for people messing with midi and a synth.

kinda what I was saying. In gravity's opinion, people who work with a daw and mpc's and stuff arent real musicians and only people like us who play instruments and crap are real musicians...so coming from a "real" musician, people who use a daw and an MPC are real musicians

[jrisreal]

Recently I saw a post sayin that reason isn't a Daw but just a plugin in itself

[Depone]

Recently I saw a post sayin that reason isn't a Daw but just a plugin in itself

Actually. thats nearly all true. Even Propellerheads themselves dont call reason a daw. Its a midi workstation, used for external gear as well as its own internal digi stuff. but it has had rewire implemented into it since version 2 I believe, as the intention was to sync this 'midi workstation' with your audio recording daw such as cubase, logic, whatever for any audio recording.

[jrisreal]

Recently I saw a post sayin that reason isn't a Daw but just a plugin in itself

Actually. thats nearly all true. Even Propellerheads themselves dont call reason a daw. Its a midi workstation, used for external gear as well as its own internal digi stuff. but it has had rewire implemented into it since version 2 I believe, as the intention was to sync this 'midi workstation' with your audio recording daw such as cubase, logic, whatever for any audio recording.

Well it still definitely is a Daw since so many ppl use it as one

[Depone]

Recently I saw a post sayin that reason isn't a Daw but just a plugin in itself

Actually. thats nearly all true. Even Propellerheads themselves dont call reason a daw. Its a midi workstation, used for external gear as well as its own internal digi stuff. but it has had rewire implemented into it since version 2 I believe, as the intention was to sync this 'midi workstation' with your audio recording daw such as cubase, logic, whatever for any audio recording.

Well it still definitely is a Daw since so many ppl use it as one

Sorry to get padantic.. but

DAW. Digital AUDIO workstation. its bullshit i know, but they said it themselves a while ago. Dont think thy even call their audio recording soft 'record' a daw either. (http://www.synthtopia.com/content/2009/ ... not-a-daw/)

[hudson]

No, I wouldn't call reason a DAW. You can only use it for MIDI. It's more of a MIDI Toolbox than an Audio Workstation. Besides, the way I and lots of other people use Reason, it might as well be a plug in.

[jrisreal]

Recently I saw a post sayin that reason isn't a Daw but just a plugin in itself

Actually. thats nearly all true. Even Propellerheads themselves dont call reason a daw. Its a midi workstation, used for external gear as well as its own internal digi stuff. but it has had rewire implemented into it since version 2 I believe, as the intention was to sync this 'midi workstation' with your audio recording daw such as cubase, logic, whatever for any audio recording.

Well it still definitely is a Daw since so many ppl use it as one

Sorry to get padantic.. but

DAW. Digital AUDIO workstation. its bullshit i know, but they said it themselves a while ago. Dont think thy even call their audio recording soft 'record' a daw either. (http://www.synthtopia.com/content/2009/ ... not-a-daw/)

Well reason is digital, produces audio, and is a workstation for the audio it produces so IMO it classifies as a daw

[hudson]

You can't really do anything with the audio in the sequencer though. It's all MIDI and it doesn't do recorded audio, so you can't cut, stretch, reverse, etc...
Things like that are important in a DAW.

[Shum]

...and it doesn't do recorded audio, so you can't cut, stretch, reverse, etc

Back when, this was the samplers job.

[jrisreal]

...and it doesn't do recorded audio, so you can't cut, stretch, reverse, etc

Back when, this was the samplers job.

some of it still is in fruity...not a problem really tho

[hudson]

...and it doesn't do recorded audio, so you can't cut, stretch, reverse, etc

Back when, this was the samplers job.

Heh, well I've only been into electronic music for a few months now so I can't say I remember that I wish I could afford hardware though, I'd do everything I could outside the DAW.

[-[2]DAY_-]

Well reason is digital, produces audio, and is a workstation for the audio it produces so IMO it classifies as a daw

This is like the deadest horse but the simplest, truest fact so it bothers me when people mess it up
How do you reckon Reason is a workstation for the audio it produces, when it doesn't have the capability to record, edit, mix or master said audio?
It produces a mix of audio signals coming from the source generators inside it, but so does Kontakt. Reason just happens to have synths and additional samplers as well as the mixers, effects and routing typical of a virtual instrument.
Reason isnt a DAW. It's an instrument rack. Garage Band is a DAW.
No one would say you can make better or more complete tunes in GB than in Reason, but thats no reason to call an apple an orange.

I seen people post "I make entire songs with it so it IS a DAW". I make entire songs with my guitar. Does THAT make it a DAW?


That pretty much ought to be the end of that, for the 1000th time.

[hudson]

If find it really tough to make complete songs in Reason. Something about the work flow is weird for me. I just use NNXT and the synths by rewiring usually. I love the shit in Reason, but I with it were more like Reaper

[-[2]DAY_-]

I just use it for synth stacks and drums/perc and i LOVE it
the midi sequencer is so much fucking nicer than performer's (yeah my bad for being on performer in the first place hah)
Its so nice sequencing my beats in Reason, routing each drum to its own output up top, and rewiring several tracks at once, recorded to audio in one take. Clean, quick, easy.

As far as mixing, it just can't handle a lot of different signals coming together as one track. Mix gets ugly. However, making a combi with a stack of synths into a mixer, then combi master output to scream4 subtle tape overdrive = fat synth

[Ldizzy]

Recently I saw a post sayin that reason isn't a Daw but just a plugin in itself

Actually. thats nearly all true. Even Propellerheads themselves dont call reason a daw. Its a midi workstation, used for external gear as well as its own internal digi stuff. but it has had rewire implemented into it since version 2 I believe, as the intention was to sync this 'midi workstation' with your audio recording daw such as cubase, logic, whatever for any audio recording.

Well it still definitely is a Daw since so many ppl use it as one

Sorry to get padantic.. but

DAW. Digital AUDIO workstation. its bullshit i know, but they said it themselves a while ago. Dont think thy even call their audio recording soft 'record' a daw either. (http://www.synthtopia.com/content/2009/ ... not-a-daw/)

Well reason is digital, produces audio, and is a workstation for the audio it produces so IMO it classifies as a daw

sorry to hop in so late but i dont call it a daw by itself.

best description ive heard of reason was by propellerheads themselves...

it went something like ''the most powerful rack in the software world'' or some shit like that... i use it as a plugin... and in that sense it is very powerful... not being a daw is not a pejorative thing...

i mean, my wife is no daw and she could be the best at what she does...

so reason, im not sure id call it a daw by itself, with record, yes... and then we could compare

in the past few years we've seen a lot of audio apps moving away from a more ''gimmicky'' aspect towards philosophies that offer full fledged daw solutions with a more hands on approach then a real daw... i think its wonderful because it creates new approaches to making music.. and any of those programs could allow u to produce decent stuff... which means they offer more on the creative side / beatmaking side... but still... a lot of these programs are lacking in so many ways to be called daws ...

in my book a daw should allow you to work in a professional context (studio), in a very productive and efficient fashion, and allow you to adapt to a lot of situations : run sessions, mix, overdub, tweak, create, mangle with midi, do complex audio manipulation and provide low latency doing so...

but im being narrow

lets just narrow it down even more :

im basically saying :

any app could deliver the same final product then a daw, but not with the same efficiency..

you dont need a daw (see definition) to produce music.

[-[2]DAY_-]

by definition the shit can track, edit and mix audio.

Reason can't do any of those things. ain't supposed to. not a daw

[ChadDub]

Not ridiculous but I thought it was pretty funny.

I have my shop class thinking that I'm a pro producer with a studio, and this dude's like, "Chad, what you use in yo studio?". I said a mic, mixer, computer, etc. and he asks what's a mixer. I tell him. Then he's like...

"I can get dat at Walmart?"

It made me laugh really hard. Not being mean or anything, it was just hilarious to me.

[-[2]DAY_-]

[Johnst]

Sorry to get padantic..

never apologize when using a word like padantic

[wub]

Sorry to get padantic..

never apologize when using a word like padantic

*pedantic