WikiLeaks

[2manynoobs]

people aren't conspiring I think; they're too damn lazy and egoistic

things just happen... imo

I mean, who cares about the world if you have a lot of dank in the bank

EDIT:

although, maybe if you want to keep that dank in bank, you might wanna start a conspiracy....


FUCK

[triky]

"Julia Gillard has been making it virtually impossible for Assange to return to Australia where he is entitled to be. And she has even threatened to cancel his passport."

this is from that BBC article... You can't cancel someone's passport and make them stateless. That's a statement worthy of Palin if I ever heard one. Is this woman really PM ??

Haven't heard her say this; in fact her ministers have said the opposite: that he's entitled to his rights as an Australian citizen.

it was from that BBC article cited earlier - i didnt read any aussie papers though, so they might have it wrong.

[noam]

and to assume that evidence and facts about a conspiracy would be available is just ludicrous

you're a smart guy mate, you've gotta do better than that...

one word. Watergate.

goodnight.

[hackman]

and to assume that evidence and facts about a conspiracy would be available is just ludicrous

you're a smart guy mate, you've gotta do better than that...

one word. Watergate.

goodnight.

watergate wasn't a conspiracy, just standard crooked politicians

and how do you know nixon wasn't designed to fall?

[AllNightDayDream]

watergate wasn't a conspiracy

...

con·spir·a·cy
   /kənˈspɪrəsi/ Show Spelled[kuhn-spir-uh-see] Show IPA
–noun, plural -cies.
1.
the act of conspiring.
2.
an evil, unlawful, treacherous, or surreptitious plan formulated in secret by two or more persons; plot.
3.
a combination of persons for a secret, unlawful, or evil purpose: He joined the conspiracy to overthrow the government.

[noam]

and to assume that evidence and facts about a conspiracy would be available is just ludicrous

you're a smart guy mate, you've gotta do better than that...

one word. Watergate.

goodnight.

watergate wasn't a conspiracy, just standard crooked politicians

[hackman]

not on the level we are talking about here

[hackman]

watergate isn't a SUCCESSFUL conspiracy because it was discovered

this wikileaks thing hasn't been discovered, officially

so how can you be expecting to find evidence for it?


use your fuckin loaf

[noam]

that doesn't make sense. you're saying something DEFINITELY exists but you have no evidence for it existing. im saying there is a possibility but i have no reason to believe it because there's no evidence.

ask literally ANY room full of people, bar fervent religious fanatics, which of the above two concepts makes sense and what do you think the answer will be...?

seriously man.

this has got to the point where its an argument about logic and language.

accept that what you want to believe is true is a possible truth: not a definitive one.

[hackman]

that doesn't make sense. you're saying something DEFINITELY exists but you have no evidence for it existing. im saying there is a possibility but i have no reason to believe it because there's no evidence.

ask literally ANY room full of people, bar fervent religious fanatics, which of the above two concepts makes sense and what do you think the answer will be...?

seriously man.

this has got to the point where its an argument about logic and language.

accept that what you want to believe is true is a possible truth: not a definitive one.

where have i said this is all definitively?
i seem to remember making a thread advocating the use of the words could/maybe instead of is/are

you are in the wrong here noam

haha


hahahahahahahahaha

[hackman]

i really don't think i am able to get my points across well through typing, which i think leads to a lot of confusion/misunderstandings

safe

[noam]

quit trollin me im tired

[2manynoobs]

good article

http://www.realitysandwich.com/node/72897

[Sirius]

i thought i would post this here... seeing as its very much pertinent to this discussion like...


!!chea

[knell]

[frank grimes jr.]

Pretty sure I saw Peter Sellers in that video at one point.

[Sirius]

shit just noticed ma link didnt work..... just listen!!


!!chea

edit* ay I got dibs on using it in a track!! hahahhahah

[wormcode]

ok so we've got on the one hand:


hackers who want to risk their balls, hacking mastercard just because they believe in free, untainted media.

on the other hand we have:


governments that want to ban/control the internet who use hackers as an excuse: "oh it's so dangerous, hack0rz gun' hack your mastercard biz, stealin' yo moneys, you still want free media?"


more views on this?? anyone?

Well so far the only hacking that has been done is possibly by the guy who is accused of stealing the documents by gaining unauthorised access to files.

What is happening with Mastercard etc, is denial of service attacks which requires no hacking or gaining of access to anything. It's mostly juveniles involved, downloading a program, entering a web address and clicking "go" or similar. The more advanced way of using it basically voluntarily turns your machine into a "zombie computer" which becomes part of a botnet, or a network of these zombie computers that work together. Some people have their own botnets they have collected over years.

What they do is simply overload web servers with crap. Like if 10,000 people kept clicking refresh on DSF at the same time, chances are the site would get many errors and become unreachable.

It's annoying to the admins of the networks, but nothing they can't fix with things like packet filtering, I think they were just caught off guard. Not all attacked websites went offline and you certainly can't steal anything with simple denial of service attacks alone.

dutch_arrest_16yearold_related_to_wikileaks_attacks

http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/a ... tacks.html

[AllNightDayDream]

New leak, sickening stuff

Some interesting news. Seems like wikileaks is splitting, or at least a new organization has popped up.

[64hz]

New leak, sickening stuff

Some interesting news. Seems like wikileaks is splitting, or at least a new organization has popped up.

that DynCorp article is harrowing. . .
they stone adulterers but not 'bacha bazi'?]

I.E.D.ynCorp plz.

hopefully more and more copycats spring up, and the govs cant stem the tide.
on the hand that might just cause some reactionary internet control measures to be pushed through in 'national interest' .