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Re: TEA!

Post by nitz » Sun Oct 27, 2013 5:21 pm

imami wrote:With a lot of Chinese teas you are supposed to first cover the leaves with some of the heated water and let it sit for 30-60 seconds, throw that away without drinking it, and only then pour the water in to steep for drinking.

This is supposed to get rid of any bitter tasting elements.

Often with good loose tea you can steep it 2-3 times, sometimes 4..

Apparently its also much better if you have a 200 year old Yixing clay teapot........... :6:

What to you exactly mean cover? I've never heard of technique you speak off.
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Re: TEA!

Post by BaronVon » Mon Oct 28, 2013 5:56 am

nitz wrote:
imami wrote:With a lot of Chinese teas you are supposed to first cover the leaves with some of the heated water and let it sit for 30-60 seconds, throw that away without drinking it, and only then pour the water in to steep for drinking.

This is supposed to get rid of any bitter tasting elements.

Often with good loose tea you can steep it 2-3 times, sometimes 4..

Apparently its also much better if you have a 200 year old Yixing clay teapot........... :6:
What to you exactly mean cover? I've never heard of technique you speak off.
Some Tea such as Oolong and Pu'erh requires an intitial washing of the leaves. Pu'erh upto three times. This serves to open up the leaves allowing for a better infusion and in some cases washing off dust or contaminants. The Tea leaves should be covered with boiling water for a few seconds before you discard the water. I've had some Pu'erh that can be brewed over 15 times. The steeping times are very short, usually between 10 and 30 seconds.
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Re: TEA!

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Some Tea such as Oolong and Pu'erh requires an intitial washing of the leaves. Pu'erh upto three times. This serves to open up the leaves allowing for a better infusion and in some cases washing off dust or contaminants. The Tea leaves should be covered with boiling water for a few seconds before you discard the water. I've had some Pu'erh that can be brewed over 15 times. The steeping times are very short, usually between 10 and 30 seconds.
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I always rinse pu-erh a couple of times if in a gaiwan, and usually once in my yixing pot given the longer pouring time.

As Baron says, a good tea will probably give you 15-20 good infusions!

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Post by bass_culture » Mon Oct 28, 2013 7:19 am

imami wrote:
Apparently its also much better if you have a 200 year old Yixing clay teapot........... :6:
It doesn't need to be 200 years old, but a well seasoned pot will make all the difference with top notch pu-erh.

Last year I had some tea made in an 18th Century yixing by a Malaysian tea master, was incredible! :)
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Post by cosmic_surgeon » Mon Oct 28, 2013 12:37 pm

Can't believe I've never posted in here. Pu-erh tea is sublime, only got into it this year. I tend to get my tea from jingtea.com now though I don't know any other places to buy decent tea. Does anyone have any other recommendations? I see there's a few connoisseurs in here I can learn from :6:
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Re: TEA!

Post by BaronVon » Mon Oct 28, 2013 1:15 pm

bass_culture wrote:
imami wrote:
Apparently its also much better if you have a 200 year old Yixing clay teapot........... :6:
It doesn't need to be 200 years old, but a well seasoned pot will make all the difference with top notch pu-erh.

Last year I had some tea made in an 18th Century yixing by a Malaysian tea master, was incredible! :)
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Re: TEA!

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cosmic surgeon wrote:Can't believe I've never posted in here. Pu-erh tea is sublime, only got into it this year. I tend to get my tea from jingtea.com now though I don't know any other places to buy decent tea. Does anyone have any other recommendations? I see there's a few connoisseurs in here I can learn from :6:
Hey,

I find Jing to be quite expensive for what they offer. If you want decent aged Pu-Erh in the UK look no further than http://www.essenceoftea.co.uk. David has a very good range price wise and the quality is always top notch! If you're looking for young un-aged pu cakes then as Baron said, http://www.yunnansourcing.com is a great place to get it, although Scott is based in Yunnan China!

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Re: TEA!

Post by cosmic_surgeon » Mon Oct 28, 2013 3:54 pm

bass_culture wrote:
cosmic surgeon wrote:Can't believe I've never posted in here. Pu-erh tea is sublime, only got into it this year. I tend to get my tea from jingtea.com now though I don't know any other places to buy decent tea. Does anyone have any other recommendations? I see there's a few connoisseurs in here I can learn from :6:
Hey,

I find Jing to be quite expensive for what they offer. If you want decent aged Pu-Erh in the UK look no further than http://www.essenceoftea.co.uk. David has a very good range price wise and the quality is always top notch! If you're looking for young un-aged pu cakes then as Baron said, http://www.yunnansourcing.com is a great place to get it, although Scott is based in Yunnan China!

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Wow thanks! Do you have any particular recommendations as far as Pu-erh goes btw?
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Re: TEA!

Post by BaronVon » Mon Oct 28, 2013 5:09 pm

cosmic surgeon wrote:
bass_culture wrote:
cosmic surgeon wrote:Can't believe I've never posted in here. Pu-erh tea is sublime, only got into it this year. I tend to get my tea from jingtea.com now though I don't know any other places to buy decent tea. Does anyone have any other recommendations? I see there's a few connoisseurs in here I can learn from :6:
Hey,

I find Jing to be quite expensive for what they offer. If you want decent aged Pu-Erh in the UK look no further than http://www.essenceoftea.co.uk. David has a very good range price wise and the quality is always top notch! If you're looking for young un-aged pu cakes then as Baron said, http://www.yunnansourcing.com is a great place to get it, although Scott is based in Yunnan China!

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Wow thanks! Do you have any particular recommendations as far as Pu-erh goes btw?
It's really hard to recommend Pu'erh as it depends on your palate. I'd try a few ripe Pu'erh cakes first before getting into the raw stuff. I personally think this tea is fantastic and very reasonably priced
http://yunnansourcing.com/en/ripepu-erh ... grams.html
If you order from yunnan sourcing it pays to order a few different products due to postage and delivery time.
If you like Oolong tea i can highly recommend these teas
http://yunnansourcing.com/en/anxi-oolon ... -2012.html
http://yunnansourcing.com/en/anxi-oolon ... g-tea.html

And this is my favourite green tea
http://yunnansourcing.com/en/greentea/2 ... -2013.html

And black tea
http://yunnansourcing.com/en/yunnan-bla ... -2013.html
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Re: TEA!

Post by bass_culture » Mon Oct 28, 2013 7:36 pm

baron_von_carlton wrote:
It's really hard to recommend Pu'erh as it depends on your palate. I'd try a few ripe Pu'erh cakes first before getting into the raw stuff..
I personally think the best thing to do is to first try some fresh young raw pu-erh, after that some middle aged stuff (7-10 years old), and finally some proper aged tea (20 years old +) to really learn to appreciate how the tea changes over time. I do drink ripe pu-erh from time to time, but I've never had any that have really blown me away in regards to either flavour or qi (chi).

As far as teas on Essence of Tea go that I would recommend, the 1992 loose Pu-erh is very nice for the money (23p per gram), and is priced ok for an everyday sort of tea

http://www.essenceoftea.com/tea/puerh-t ... puerh.html

If you want something a little older and a bit more special then the two loose 1970s shengs are very good and very well priced for their age (58p and 68p per gram)

http://www.essenceoftea.com/tea/puerh-t ... puerh.html
http://www.essenceoftea.com/tea/puerh-t ... puerh.html

This 1980s Tuocha is also very tasty and well priced (67p per gram)
http://www.essenceoftea.com/tea/puerh-t ... uocha.html

As far as buying young cakes for ageing, a good starting point would be some of the famous recipe cakes of the Menghai tea factory, two in particular that are known to age well in the right conditions are the

7542: http://yunnansourcing.com/en/2012/2047- ... grams.html

& the

8582: http://yunnansourcing.com/en/2012/2166- ... grams.html

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Re: TEA!

Post by nitz » Wed Oct 30, 2013 11:39 am

baron_von_carlton wrote:
nitz wrote:
imami wrote:With a lot of Chinese teas you are supposed to first cover the leaves with some of the heated water and let it sit for 30-60 seconds, throw that away without drinking it, and only then pour the water in to steep for drinking.

This is supposed to get rid of any bitter tasting elements.

Often with good loose tea you can steep it 2-3 times, sometimes 4..

Apparently its also much better if you have a 200 year old Yixing clay teapot........... :6:
What to you exactly mean cover? I've never heard of technique you speak off.
Some Tea such as Oolong and Pu'erh requires an intitial washing of the leaves. Pu'erh upto three times. This serves to open up the leaves allowing for a better infusion and in some cases washing off dust or contaminants. The Tea leaves should be covered with boiling water for a few seconds before you discard the water. I've had some Pu'erh that can be brewed over 15 times. The steeping times are very short, usually between 10 and 30 seconds.
Thanks for that - i assume less commercial company and more *fresher* tea require such processes.
I think the reason why i've never came across it is because i buy my everyday drinking from partly commercial tea *normal* drinker companies. So herbal tea from Pukka. Green teas, black and oolong from Teahorse, Jingtea, WeAreTea, Teapigs ( really commercial in the sense of tea world, would not fully recommennt unless your lazy) Thus, i believe these company will in whole batches do certain processes before selling it. I always read the instructions and alike, but never read what you described. Having a look at the shops you shop from will back this up, i've never ever heard of some of the shops and i get the sense from the websites they are not catered to sell sell sell to everyone. Maybe commercial was the wrong word to use.

The only place i know where i can get tea close to something you was showing is this local tea shop i go to, they sell and let you drink all sorts. Its like tea version of starbucks, but no snobs, a bit more darker, locals, and fresh. So its not like starbucks :lol:
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Re: TEA!

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nitz wrote:

The only place i know where i can get tea close to something you was showing is this local tea shop i go to, they sell and let you drink all sorts. Its like tea version of starbucks, but no snobs, a bit more darker, locals, and fresh. So its not like starbucks :lol:
Are you talking about Lee Rosy's by any chance?
If so i can tell you that he buys most. if not all the tea from here http://www.nbtea.co.uk/
I like the place but i wish he's change up the stock occasionally, they have been serving the same varieties since it opened.
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Re: TEA!

Post by nitz » Wed Oct 30, 2013 5:17 pm

baron_von_carlton wrote:
nitz wrote:

The only place i know where i can get tea close to something you was showing is this local tea shop i go to, they sell and let you drink all sorts. Its like tea version of starbucks, but no snobs, a bit more darker, locals, and fresh. So its not like starbucks :lol:
Are you talking about Lee Rosy's by any chance?
If so i can tell you that he buys most. if not all the tea from here http://www.nbtea.co.uk/
I like the place but i wish he's change up the stock occasionally, they have been serving the same varieties since it opened.
Yes i am..! I'll be very, in fact extremely, shocked if you really like in Saudi Arabia ‎and know what i was talking about Lee Rosy! haha

Really how do you know? Ovbs i wasn't expecting it to be top of like line master tea, because it's a business at the end of the day, but it's far better than your average commercial shop - starbucks/costa

I would like to point out, i like to go there and drink tea, but i don't buy their tea from their online shop etc for the above reason
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Re: TEA!

Post by BaronVon » Wed Oct 30, 2013 5:53 pm

nitz wrote:
baron_von_carlton wrote:
nitz wrote:

The only place i know where i can get tea close to something you was showing is this local tea shop i go to, they sell and let you drink all sorts. Its like tea version of starbucks, but no snobs, a bit more darker, locals, and fresh. So its not like starbucks :lol:
Are you talking about Lee Rosy's by any chance?
If so i can tell you that he buys most. if not all the tea from here http://www.nbtea.co.uk/
I like the place but i wish he's change up the stock occasionally, they have been serving the same varieties since it opened.
Yes i am..! I'll be very, in fact extremely, shocked if you really like in Saudi Arabia ‎and know what i was talking about Lee Rosy! haha

Really how do you know? Ovbs i wasn't expecting it to be top of like line master tea, because it's a business at the end of the day, but it's far better than your average commercial shop - starbucks/costa

I would like to point out, i like to go there and drink tea, but i don't buy their tea from their online shop etc for the above reason
Carlton born and bred. Haven't lived in Notts since 2008 though. Still visit occasionally.
I am a fan of Lee Rosy's, it's nice to know that it's still going strong. I wish I'd had the idea first :D
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Re: TEA!

Post by nitz » Wed Oct 30, 2013 6:35 pm

baron_von_carlton wrote:
nitz wrote:
baron_von_carlton wrote:
nitz wrote:

The only place i know where i can get tea close to something you was showing is this local tea shop i go to, they sell and let you drink all sorts. Its like tea version of starbucks, but no snobs, a bit more darker, locals, and fresh. So its not like starbucks :lol:
Are you talking about Lee Rosy's by any chance?
If so i can tell you that he buys most. if not all the tea from here http://www.nbtea.co.uk/
I like the place but i wish he's change up the stock occasionally, they have been serving the same varieties since it opened.
Yes i am..! I'll be very, in fact extremely, shocked if you really like in Saudi Arabia ‎and know what i was talking about Lee Rosy! haha

Really how do you know? Ovbs i wasn't expecting it to be top of like line master tea, because it's a business at the end of the day, but it's far better than your average commercial shop - starbucks/costa

I would like to point out, i like to go there and drink tea, but i don't buy their tea from their online shop etc for the above reason
Carlton born and bred. Haven't lived in Notts since 2008 though. Still visit occasionally.
I am a fan of Lee Rosy's, it's nice to know that it's still going strong. I wish I'd had the idea first :D
I See! It's nice. I don't think Lee rosy's will be awaking your oolong tea before severing tho, ( mid range tea i could call it.)

I heard from my barber that they were putting cocaine in their tea? You what?!

I did some googling and it did turn out right what you said - awaking the leaves

P.s can i ask why your interesting in tea? I ask because i don't know many people who are, and who give a monkeys waffle about tea, so i'm always interested when i talk to someone who's interested in as tea as i am. Coffee, enggry drinks and fizzy pop is killing everything, coffee is ok within limits actually.
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Re: TEA!

Post by BaronVon » Thu Oct 31, 2013 5:36 am

nitz wrote:
baron_von_carlton wrote:
nitz wrote:
baron_von_carlton wrote:
nitz wrote:

The only place i know where i can get tea close to something you was showing is this local tea shop i go to, they sell and let you drink all sorts. Its like tea version of starbucks, but no snobs, a bit more darker, locals, and fresh. So its not like starbucks :lol:
Are you talking about Lee Rosy's by any chance?
If so i can tell you that he buys most. if not all the tea from here http://www.nbtea.co.uk/
I like the place but i wish he's change up the stock occasionally, they have been serving the same varieties since it opened.
Yes i am..! I'll be very, in fact extremely, shocked if you really like in Saudi Arabia ‎and know what i was talking about Lee Rosy! haha

Really how do you know? Ovbs i wasn't expecting it to be top of like line master tea, because it's a business at the end of the day, but it's far better than your average commercial shop - starbucks/costa

I would like to point out, i like to go there and drink tea, but i don't buy their tea from their online shop etc for the above reason
Carlton born and bred. Haven't lived in Notts since 2008 though. Still visit occasionally.
I am a fan of Lee Rosy's, it's nice to know that it's still going strong. I wish I'd had the idea first :D
I See! It's nice. I don't think Lee rosy's will be awaking your oolong tea before severing tho, ( mid range tea i could call it.)

I heard from my barber that they were putting cocaine in their tea? You what?!

I did some googling and it did turn out right what you said - awaking the leaves

P.s can i ask why your interesting in tea? I ask because i don't know many people who are, and who give a monkeys waffle about tea, so i'm always interested when i talk to someone who's interested in as tea as i am. Coffee, enggry drinks and fizzy pop is killing everything, coffee is ok within limits actually.
I used to be heavy into the smoke so when i gave up i needed something to replace it with. I was into the different varieties and flavours so high quality tea provided those similarities.
It also relaxes me. The whole process of brewing has a ritual which can be likened to rolling up.
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Re: TEA!

Post by nitz » Thu Oct 31, 2013 10:28 am

baron_von_carlton wrote:
nitz wrote:
baron_von_carlton wrote:
nitz wrote:
The only place i know where i can get tea close to something you was showing is this local tea shop i go to, they sell and let you drink all sorts. Its like tea version of starbucks, but no snobs, a bit more darker, locals, and fresh. So its not like starbucks :lol:
Are you talking about Lee Rosy's by any chance?
If so i can tell you that he buys most. if not all the tea from here http://www.nbtea.co.uk/
I like the place but i wish he's change up the stock occasionally, they have been serving the same varieties since it opened.
Yes i am..! I'll be very, in fact extremely, shocked if you really like in Saudi Arabia ‎and know what i was talking about Lee Rosy! haha

Really how do you know? Ovbs i wasn't expecting it to be top of like line master tea, because it's a business at the end of the day, but it's far better than your average commercial shop - starbucks/costa



I See! It's nice. I don't think Lee rosy's will be awaking your oolong tea before severing tho, ( mid range tea i could call it.)

I heard from my barber that they were putting cocaine in their tea? You what?!

I did some googling and it did turn out right what you said - awaking the leaves

P.s can i ask why your interesting in tea? I ask because i don't know many people who are, and who give a monkeys waffle about tea, so i'm always interested when i talk to someone who's interested in as tea as i am. Coffee, enggry drinks and fizzy pop is killing everything, coffee is ok within limits actually.
I used to be heavy into the smoke so when i gave up i needed something to replace it with. I was into the different varieties and flavours so high quality tea provided those similarities.
It also relaxes me. The whole process of brewing has a ritual which can be likened to rolling up.
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