do you want the truth

[hugh]

even though i dont believe any of this since it's all so "out of nowhere" i would like to believe it could be true! It's the same problem i have with religion as a principle, I can't see hard evidence so I can't truly believe it, however, i would never dismiss it 100 percent. In particular the Bob Lazar video parson posted is very interesting as he seems hugely genuine with nothing to gain from saying what he is saying. There are many little holes I have with the whole thing, for example if we are evolving then what the hell is the population doing growing? thats very confusing to me. Also, if we are considered royalty, then what are apes/gorillas? They share our DNA 98 percent as far as I am aware, or is this some kind of secret DNA i dont understand. Collier video was a bit too much for me, but i did enjoy the bob lazar thing and i love this kinda weird stuff

[black lotus]

my penis is bigger than yours

just saying-

reading parson from my perspective, he doesnt get agro.. people whos belief systems he is challenging most certainly do become aggressive, and chris does get frustrated with the triviality of the arguments thrown at him.. people miss the root of the discourse and focus on everything but.. i think its funny.

if you have be here now right there on your bookshelf, what say you of the page that goes .. "even though you are communicating with beings from other dimensions, you should still remember your zip code" .. it seems to me that the big conflict with parsons presentations is that he presents these communications/contacts as Fact and not Science Fiction.. and that simply cannot be. so he finds videos of people who have shared these experiences, have logical credibility and presents them as "evidence" .. which doesnt really work a lot of the time... they go against the 'collective consciousness' .. they are dismissed as kooks or its too fantastical, etc.etc.

what do you think about be here now... or were you more into the book of nod or the necronomicon as a kid.. kind of a loaded question there.

well you've already discounted yourself by making penis jokes (lol joex guize! i r funny see!)

and actually, your assumption is actually double hilarious because i thought the necronomicon was as cute as be here now, which i did find has some practical value. i enjoy be here now, especially (paraphrased) 'will it ever be the great ice cream cone in the sky?' which sort of sums up about how i feel about metaphysical and 'fantastical' information. would be be a good thing if everything he was saying is fact? sure, at least then everything would have a bit more perspective.. *IF* it was fact. if not, it's just more unicorns and i think that shit is basically worthless (save entertainment value) unless you are really amazing at extracting useful knowledge and wisdom from bullshit. which is not unheard of.

pfft.. science and it's stupid "evidence".. i hope one day i can figure things out without the use of evidence! it would make a rockin myspace status message.

also, not to say to you parson that i'm not interested in the things you are talking about. i watched and read everything you've posted. but don't insult real scientists who actually work hard to figure out how everything works by claiming this stuff is fact. it's almost like staying star trek is a real-time documentary.

i would like a unified harmonious world as much as anyone. and the message of personal responsibility is an important one.

[slothrop]

my penis is bigger than yours

just saying-

reading parson from my perspective, he doesnt get agro..

So for instance you've never seen him be called on to back up a point or provide evidence for something and rather than doing so, accuse the person asking the question of "trying desperately to cling onto their paradigm"? Or drop the "I've got time to post about this constantly but you establishment shills should know that actually answering difficult questions is beneath me" argument?

[guerillaeye]

@ Bell .. I <3 you chicka
we all have our strengths and our weaknesses, no? i hear ya.. chris does get rather abrasive and does come off a bit haughty about his concentric view point... in the words of neil young .. "its such a fine line" that keeps people from seeing that death is nothing more than shedding the body... and that we DO have 'captors' who KNOW this and do everything they can to keep us from KNOWING... keeping us pitted together in War and petty squabbles .. and we never really understand (as a species) why we hurt others, other than the "they hit me first" mentality and out of frustration, which we learn as children.. we, for some strange reason dont have the ability (we really do.. we just dont) to step back and see that all this war, poverty, pain.. makes no sense at all... there is no REASON for it.. surly the human species is not that selfish.. absolutely, we dont want to kill people??? surly we dont want kids dieing of hunger... then why the fuck do kids starve to death? why the fuck do we drop bombs on top of residential neighborhoods??? surely there must be another way around being hit first, or being frustrated that things dont go the way we want, right???? i'm into investigating the reasons why.. so is Chris.

inlakesh and Jah bless!

[guerillaeye]

and just so you're aware, i have 'be here now' and 'the only dance there is' on my bookshelf, right next to 'demon haunted world' and 'sex, ecology and spirituality' so it's not like i've never read anything 'out there' before.

so you're aware, it sounds like a lot of ego clashing.

[deamonds]

has anybody thought to say, "well u cant handle the truth" in this thread?, i cant be bothered to read it

[black lotus]

and just so you're aware, i have 'be here now' and 'the only dance there is' on my bookshelf, right next to 'demon haunted world' and 'sex, ecology and spirituality' so it's not like i've never read anything 'out there' before.

so you're aware, it sounds like a lot of ego clashing.

welcome to the clash then, how's the water since you've just jumped in?

[fuagofire]

i can't handle the truth

[_boring]

everything is permitted :]

[nousd]

everything is permitted :]

except that

[_boring]

everything is permitted :]

except that

[nousd]

everything is permitted :]

except that

and especially that!

[parson]

i can't tell if i have made progress saying the same shit for the past two years or not

[nousd]

you've definitely made progress at saying shit...

but,

despite my being comfortable with your raves,
I gotta say
you're insights & perspectives are largely being wasted on here

travel & teach man
you'll love it

in fact i wish i could afford to bring you as an act to Oz

you're used to being out of your psychic zone
so how bout getting out of fucking Texarse & the States?

[parson]

no u

[parson]

sd5
dude
you're alright

[nousd]

i hope so.

[parson]

badger chastised me for posting too many times in a row

[parson]

you could say he "badgered" me for not editing my posts. i hope i don't get banned for this.

[parson]

i don't need to go anywhere because there's a version of me in every area