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Post by obri3n » Thu Sep 17, 2009 11:37 am

Have a listen here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pd4hYy8vo4M

What... Is... Going.. On... ???

Really bubbly synth.

The bass synth drop every four, really nice crisp bitcrush? Mine never sound like that :) even after layering. Any idea what kind of samplerate/settings are roughly used for that kind of sound?

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Re: The 'help me make this sound!' thread

Post by collige » Sat Oct 03, 2009 2:35 pm

bumpity bump!

I would like to know the source of the horn stab in these tunes (I assume it's some sort of keyboard preset since it's used in a shitload of songs):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTkNZWfXARk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTHHCFdiCQ4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0HUPcEr_Tw

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Re: The 'help me make this sound!' thread

Post by Cynikal » Sun Oct 04, 2009 8:16 pm

heres one

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plozMo2eYmE @ 35 secs

thanks in advance m8
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Re: The 'help me make this sound!' thread

Post by shahbazi » Sun Oct 04, 2009 9:11 pm

Really want to make the bassline from Sukh knights - Ganja dub, within albino 3.

Any help?

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_q ... type=&aq=f

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Re: The 'help me make this sound!' thread

Post by slyman » Wed Oct 07, 2009 11:11 pm

is there any way to control panning in a way that makes it seem like a sound is going front to back on the left and right
like imagine ur driving thru a tunnel and theres lights on your right and left and theyre whipping past u i want to do that but with sounds. theres got to b a way to do this without surround sound with that psychoacoustic stuff

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Re: The 'help me make this sound!' thread

Post by Hide_One » Mon Oct 12, 2009 7:38 pm

Couple of simple sounds i've been trying to achieve with no luck recently:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0R9VeVyVumU

(The wobble in this one)

Can never get it sounding right... if I get the synth sounding right, when I slap an LFO on there it loses it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B205qHTbdUQ

(@ 43 seconds)

Is this 2 basses, a dull one and one with an env to give it that w-wub w-wub (to think I always laughed at people tryin to explain bass sounds phonetically) sorta sound, been messing around with automation on env and LFO amount and delayed env, still cant get it right.

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Re: The 'help me make this sound!' thread

Post by Sinisterbeats » Mon Oct 12, 2009 11:16 pm

slyman wrote:is there any way to control panning in a way that makes it seem like a sound is going front to back on the left and right
like imagine ur driving thru a tunnel and theres lights on your right and left and theyre whipping past u i want to do that but with sounds. theres got to b a way to do this without surround sound with that psychoacoustic stuff
you could try decresing volume, incresing reverb and cutting high frequencies as the sound goes from front to back, either with automation or linking an lfo to these parameters. dunno how it would sound but thats part of how human hearing tends to define front and back sound. might try this myself, could make an interesting effect.

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Post by slyman » Tue Oct 13, 2009 12:22 am

ooo yea thanks. i think that might work cuz now that reminds me of something i read that talked about moving stuff to the front or back of ur mix by cutting the highest and lowest frequencies.

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Post by cracklesandpops » Tue Oct 13, 2009 3:28 am

agreed with the above. definitely gonna need to play with wet/dry mix on the reverb as it "moves" from in front to over the head to the back. driest just as it passes your ear. probably tied to a similar gain automation curve on the volume.

gonna hafta try this out meself now that its been mentioned. big up.

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Post by cracklesandpops » Tue Oct 13, 2009 3:54 am

while i'm in the thread.....

at work so i don't have examples immediately at hand. been impressed lately by some tracks i've heard with some...flabby...wobbles. words comin to mind are fat and slow. severely obese. couple rusko tracks, some ganja white knight, methinks. i'll post examples when i get a chance if necessary. im wondering how to achieve the wobbles that are so slow on the attack they almost sound nudged behind the beat when the filter opens up all the way. create almost a push-pull sensation. gets me firmly in the groove. so... easy to do with adjusting attack times on the adsr, or best just to make a slower wobble and chop it up, then re-splice so it hits a tad late?

sorry, know this is probably not making a ton of sense. i guess what i'm asking is whether or not there is a way to make the attack of my wobble follow a non-linear curve that looks more like the exponential gain of, say, y=x^2 instead of y=x. takes a relatively long time to get from 0% to 50%, then gets from 50 to 100 right quick.

relatively speaking.

damn its hard to try and put words to this shit.

any help is of course greatly appreciated. i'll find some specific examples and post links later on.

cheers.

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Re: The 'help me make this sound!' thread

Post by slyman » Tue Oct 13, 2009 4:16 am

cracklesandpops wrote:agreed with the above. definitely gonna need to play with wet/dry mix on the reverb as it "moves" from in front to over the head to the back. driest just as it passes your ear. probably tied to a similar gain automation curve on the volume.

gonna hafta try this out meself now that its been mentioned. big up.
damnit that was kinda y i didnt want to ask how to do it but since i couldnt do it on my own my idea is out. nooo

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Re: The 'help me make this sound!' thread

Post by cracklesandpops » Tue Oct 13, 2009 4:53 am

ha...

no big worry there. my production is me fartin on a monitor. not hittin the dancefloors anytime soon.

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Re: The 'help me make this sound!' thread

Post by slyman » Tue Oct 13, 2009 4:58 am

haha right me too. and i think maybe this would b cool to try and add to the effect too
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hb ... /dopp.html

i almost got it the way i want i just have to mess with the eqing. but does anyone kno wat the mod wheel is named in albino so i can automate it?

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Re: The 'help me make this sound!' thread

Post by cracklesandpops » Tue Oct 13, 2009 10:15 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FiM90Cr ... re=related

Chase & Status, Saxon. 4:36

that wobble is sick. that's what i was talking about in my above post. seems to almost drag behind the beat. curiosity aroused. suggestions?

thanks

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Re: The 'help me make this sound!' thread

Post by harryp2000 » Wed Oct 14, 2009 9:53 am

I'm really interested in how the bass from 'Messiah'by Konflict was made! I've got an Eastern/Indian dubstep track on the way which could do with a bass like this with the AUM kind of sound in it, it would totally boost it right out!

Heres the song! The bass starts at 1:30!

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Post by disco.infiltrator » Wed Oct 14, 2009 11:19 pm

I feel like I'm just further cluttering this thread, but it's worth a shot.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-oDvgo-sg4

I want to know how to make the plucky bit. It's too fast for me to figure it out haha.

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Re: The 'help me make this sound!' thread

Post by Dark Reign » Thu Oct 15, 2009 9:07 pm

How do I make the talking robot sounds that Datsik & Excision use?

any good thread on this? Search didnt come through with anything

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Post by format-mcr. » Sat Oct 17, 2009 1:39 am

Wondering if anyone can help with these questions... been meaning to ask all this for time.

first is the lead sound that kicks in around 0.22? lots of their tunes have that same metally sounding synth. how would u go about making something similar?
Kryptic Minds - Badman
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YS-zfu3fNmY

the next is more a technique question which is how you can get short bursting bass sound like in "its yours" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YS-zfu3fNmY or pinch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0hYhmBzNYY.

lastly... how do you get the wave sound to 'tail up'/'open up'... couldnt find a better example but http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmEvJnQn_OA with the end of the higehr lines (1.10)

massive big up for any help on any of these

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Re: The 'help me make this sound!' thread

Post by growlater » Sat Oct 17, 2009 2:23 pm

format-mcr. wrote:
the lead sound that kicks in around 0.22? lots of their tunes have that same metally sounding synth. how would u go about making something similar?
Kryptic Minds - Badman
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YS-zfu3fNmY
If you are referring to the midrange bass, to me this sounds like they probably are using a FM tone as the root of the bass sound. Frequency Modulation (FM) involes modulating one oscillator by another, and leads to very frequency rich sounds.
Try bouncing a sustained tone from any synth with FM capability, perhaps a 2 oscillators, Maybe a square (going out) Frequency modulated BY a lower pitched, 2nd oscillator, perhaps a saw, or other wave. Play with the pitch of the lower tuned oscillator that is doing the modulation on the first one, until it wobbles rythmically, giving you a looping tone. Then you can play with the FM index (intensity that the 2nd wave is modulating the first) until you achieve the amount of harmonic richness you are looking for. Sample a sustained tone, toss it in your sampler, throw a filter on, and modulate that filter via LFO / whatever else you want. From here its a matter of narrowing down the frequencies using subtractive EQ (pulling the poles down instead of boosting) until you are only letting through the freqs you want. Your subtractive EQ will allow you to boost the volume of your patch, since you have reclaimed more volume room. Hopefully that helps, I don't claim that is the way they did it specifically, but you will achieve a similar sound.
format-mcr. wrote:
the next is more a technique question which is how you can get short bursting bass sound like in "its yours" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YS-zfu3fNmY
This song (its yours) seems to employ the same technique that I mentioned previously. Not sure about the pinch song, it just sounds like it starts with a less harmonically rich tone for the bass (Not FM)
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lastly... how do you get the wave sound to 'tail up'/'open up'... couldnt find a better example but http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmEvJnQn_OA with the end of the higehr lines (1.10)
Not really sure what you are referring to here, but if you are talking about the tendancy for the end of each group of bass notes to go up in pitch, this is achieved by using legato / glide, which will pitch bend overlapping notes into each other. Make sure you are running your patch in mono (1 voice at a time, as opposed to portamento (multiple voices)) if you want Legato / glide to work.

Hope that helps.
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Re: The 'help me make this sound!' thread

Post by format-mcr. » Sun Oct 18, 2009 2:11 pm

growlater wrote:
format-mcr. wrote: .....
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Hope that helps.
SAFE! Thanks for the help. Will play around on this later when back from work.

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