Would a bro/complextro producer Q&A be welcomed? (and who?)

[Aufnahmewindwuschel]

Are you implying that thats it? Because these guys midranges sound like a joke compared to Skrillex.

i agree with your point that skrillex has some decent sound design skills but putting him over all the other great artist is just wrong he has more success and yeah he deserves it but he isnt the best sound designer at all
look at let say amon tobin or phace definitly way beyond skrillex

[spoot088]

skrillex is awesome, everyone who hates on him is just jealous because he's miles away from every other producer ever which i obviously know a fuckton about. No one can make skrillex sounds he is just that genius. Oh btw I can make a skrillex growl its just a matter of modulating everything and dumping 15 plugins on the track

FUCK. OFF.

post audio if you've made the sound, you and hookey can jerk off to how complex and modulated it sounds

OK.

http://soundcloud.com/pitches_and_hoes/ ... -eq-is-all


I could have spend a lot more time tweaking the cutoff points and shit like that and it would sound even closer. But I think you can tell that thats the method.

[skwiggo]

@hutyluty: did objekt ever get back to you about a Q+A?

[Sechah]

OK.

http://soundcloud.com/pitches_and_hoes/ ... -eq-is-all


I could have spend a lot more time tweaking the cutoff points and shit like that and it would sound even closer. But I think you can tell that thats the method.

Lol owned, pretty much just made SMANS from a half assed request. +1.

[hookey]

Are you implying that thats it? Because these guys midranges sound like a joke compared to Skrillex.

i agree with your point that skrillex has some decent sound design skills but putting him over all the other great artist is just wrong he has more success and yeah he deserves it but he isnt the best sound designer at all
look at let say amon tobin or phace definitly way beyond skrillex

These guys don't do dubstep and it's a different approach to sound in the case of Phace (like Noisia, they use reeces instead of growls)

[hookey]

skrillex is awesome, everyone who hates on him is just jealous because he's miles away from every other producer ever which i obviously know a fuckton about. No one can make skrillex sounds he is just that genius. Oh btw I can make a skrillex growl its just a matter of modulating everything and dumping 15 plugins on the track

FUCK. OFF.

post audio if you've made the sound, you and hookey can jerk off to how complex and modulated it sounds

OK.

http://soundcloud.com/pitches_and_hoes/ ... -eq-is-all


I could have spend a lot more time tweaking the cutoff points and shit like that and it would sound even closer. But I think you can tell that thats the method.

This is a decent attempt, I got something similar. It's also similar to letssynthetize's guy tutorial. But again, it's missing lots of harmonics. There is something that makes it look cheaper. The difference between that and the actual growl is what makes it great.

Having read your post, I would say most of the magic of the sound is not thanks to lots of chains of different FX's. Your sound sounds washed up, suffers from the average SMANS take (muffled, lack of harmonics etc, phase problems, fuzzyness, ugly resonances when making the bass talk etc). All of that is the difference that separates the quality growl to the average growl, and when you think "im almost there and this just needs some tweaking" you spend an entire day on it and you are not getting anywere near the sweet spot.

I would still be interested if you went into more detail about the vocoder usage part and what do you modulate precisely inside FM8.

Btw, the thing about EQ is I don't use Ableton so I can't have the default EQ8's formant vowels on there to play with. Is there any way to use the EQ8 as an standalone VST to use in other DAWs? Or is there a good EQ out that has the vowel presets ready to use? Setting all the vowels yourself looking at a chart looks like a pain in the ass.

[spoot088]

well why don't you post you're attempt since you're so keen on tearing apart mine.

i think that we can let the listeners decide which one is closer

.. and i didn't use any formant presets I just automated the EQ's very quickly. thats one of many things i could have done to get it closer but it takes a long time to automate formants.

and even if there were some vst plugin that did formants well i certainly wouldn't give it to someone who spends half of their post condescending to me while having nothing worthwhile to say yourself.

you think i don't know about resonance problem??

[spoot088]

btw, did you notice that I posted an updated example about ten minutes later?? you say it took me all day but I made it sound that much better in 10 minutes! who the fuck are you really dude?

http://soundcloud.com/pitches_and_hoes/crappy-monsters2

[Sexual_Chocolate]

why are you guys trying to 1up eachother.... so bait

[spoot088]

he isn't 1uping anyone.. thats the thing

[Sexual_Chocolate]

whatev's. doesnt change the fact its making you look like a bunch of idiots.

[mthrfnk]

lulz...

[spoot088]

whatev's. doesnt change the fact its making you look like a bunch of idiots.

"whatev's" too bad i give a fuck what you say

[deadly_habit]

so... are we ever going to have any of these Q&As or just argue back and forth, because it's real nice to contact someone (in this case through their management) and have them waiting on a response while this thread has a big circle jerk and goes off on skrillex tangents (who will never show up for a Q&A here)

[hookey]

well why don't you post you're attempt since you're so keen on tearing apart mine.

i think that we can let the listeners decide which one is closer

.. and i didn't use any formant presets I just automated the EQ's very quickly. thats one of many things i could have done to get it closer but it takes a long time to automate formants.

and even if there were some vst plugin that did formants well i certainly wouldn't give it to someone who spends half of their post condescending to me while having nothing worthwhile to say yourself.

you think i don't know about resonance problem??

Nah it's pretty much around your sound or Dan Lerson (letsynthesize guy on Youtube), but im aware of the limitations and would not claim it to be "almost spot on".

It was just constructive criticism man, don't be mad.

[spoot088]

ididn't say spot on. i said i was close. personally i think closer then letsynthesize guy

[mthrfnk]

so... are we ever going to have any of these Q&As or just argue back and forth, because it's real nice to contact someone (in this case through their management) and have them waiting on a response while this thread has a big circle jerk and goes off on skrillex tangents (who will never show up for a Q&A here)

Sounds good! Start it ASAP I say.

[ehbes]

at this point i don't give a fuck who u choose just make up your mind...

[BonerJams04]

It would be even better if he took the piss and farted into the mic, processed it into a nasty growl.
I would have so much respect for him

yes.
omg i wouldnt just respect him
he would be my hero.

literally the first man to make millions off of farting into a mic

[ehbes]

It would be even better if he took the piss and farted into the mic, processed it into a nasty growl.
I would have so much respect for him

yes.
omg i wouldnt just respect him
he would be my hero.

literally the first man to make millions off of farting into a mic

second, first is Carlos mencia