Gear lust

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Thanks for all the info guys. I'm reading the manual now. I might sold on this, actually. Compare to most of what else I've looked at I'm getting major bang for buck with the sp 404sx ;p

[nowaysj]

Your in the f x and there are three knobs which control the fx. Hardly fine control, but its just got that sound. Once you know those fx, you'll know this whole beat movement.

Kind of like once you get on an mpc or an sp 1200 you know first and second wave hip hop.

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Your in the f x and there are three knobs which control the fx. Hardly fine control, but its just got that sound. Once you know those fx, you'll know this whole beat movement.

Kind of like once you get on an mpc or an sp 1200 you know first and second wave hip hop.

I'm pretty curious about this... damn...DAMN... : ( : ( : ( Been practicing making percs on my Mopho...plus I could layer the shit out of some Mopho patches on it....NOOOOOOOOO DAMN IT...

[nowaysj]

I talk about the 404 being separate form the computer, but most of the time spent there on the 404. The chopping of samples, down and dirty, the beat played entirely off of the grid, all that shit is just you and your musical ability, your groove or lack of it. All that is recorded (resampled), all the chunky digital fx smushing, all that is stacked up. That shit DOES end up back in the computer, for me at least. So I suppose it is hybrid workflow. But the heart of it is in the 404, where man and machine meet. The computer is like having someone else there with you, another intelligence, and brings a whole different dynamic.

BTW, that microwave workflow 101 was directed to Wolf, asking for new ways to work on the 404. And really that is the old ways... but even I, a talentless, grooveless bore, gets results from it.

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I talk about the 404 being separate form the computer, but most of the time spent there on the 404. The chopping of samples, down and dirty, the beat played entirely off of the grid, all that shit is just you and your musical ability, your groove or lack of it. All that is recorded (resampled), all the chunky digital fx smushing, all that is stacked up. That shit DOES end up back in the computer, for me at least. So I suppose it is hybrid workflow. But the heart of it is in the 404, where man and machine meet. The computer is like having someone else there with you, another intelligence, and brings a whole different dynamic.

BTW, that microwave workflow 101 was directed to Wolf, asking for new ways to work on the 404. And really that is the old ways... but even I, a talentless, grooveless bore, gets results from it.

Despite some of what I've read about frustrations with the way things work on the SP 404, I'm pretty interested, but I've been window shopping for the past week or so figuring out how to spend too much of my pay check before I've even got it, meanwhile I'm Mr. Embarrassingly low checking account balance.

I think I need to just chill with the KP3 for a while and make some music. But it seems like the SP 404sx would really fit the bill with want I'm wanting to do at the moment. And as its such an essential part of that LA Beat Scene I'd love to see how I can hammer that round peg into a square whole and work with it in other genres.

[nowaysj]

I think I need to just chill with the KP3 for a while and make some music.

Yessss

[nowaysj]

http://www.dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=279794

Would appreciate some input.

[nowaysj]

Re the earlier discussion regarding mks's rhodes:



Sounds pretty good to me. I got lounge lizard with a novation controller several years ago, and I don't recall it sounding anywhere near this good.

[LUNCHPADDLE]

^ NEEEEED!

heard lots about lounge lizard..

[wub]

Think Deadly has mentioned his love of Lounge Lizard IIRC;

if you want to maintain the groove of the loop then just use careful eqing. use an EQ with spectrum analysis and spike the frequencies of the kick, snare, and hat, so you dont muddy everything up. this is what i tend to do if a use a drum loop.

or if you dont care so much of the groove or rhythm of the loop, then cut hits out of the loop then sequence them however you want, then you can EQ and/or add effects to each drum seperately. of course you could try to recreate the exact rhythmic pattern of the loop after cutting them out but it will be very difficult to get the exact same groove.

It's nice to see you not trolling for a change considering you make dope music.

Basically if it sounds good use it be it a preset/loop/sample pack, it's the end result that matters. It's easy to tell when something is 100% dry presets and samples though so processing becomes more of a thing.
Here's a personal example for you

One of my most popular tunes and it's all 100% samples no synthesis at all.
The crowd noises I think I got from freesound or just googling or asking a bud for some crowd sounds.
The sax is from a jazz sample pack a bud posted on DOA (originally from a history of jazz book I think).
The rhodes was a preset midi demo for lounge lizard iirc or from an old akai sample/loop cd.
The vocals are from an old akai blues and jazz vocal sample cd.
The bass is an 808.
The upright bass is an akai sample cd multisample.
The main break and the breakdown one are both from sample packs as well.

This tune landed in as unsigned tune of the month in Knowledge magazine back when it wasn't just digital and still in print and quite highly praised.
The remix by Theory which just basically sped it up to more modern mixable bpm landed on Marcus Intalex's Fabriclive mix cd.

Just goes to show you that it doesn't matter where you get the sources, but how you use them that counts, that's not to say I wasn't chopping and processing the hell out of things, it's still a lot of work.

Use whatever sounds good.

Taken from this thread - http://www.dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=75601

[SunkLo]

Yeah Lounge Lizard is the dopeness but having a Rhodes is pimp mode x 1000. Collar popped so hard it's tucked in.

[nowaysj]

Kind of asking if there is a major quality jump between 1 and 2 sounds that way to me. But vids are so shit for actual demoing. Like you can lie pretty hard in post.

[nowaysj]

Think Deadly has mentioned his love of Lounge Lizard IIRC;

if you want to maintain the groove of the loop then just use careful eqing. use an EQ with spectrum analysis and spike the frequencies of the kick, snare, and hat, so you dont muddy everything up. this is what i tend to do if a use a drum loop.

or if you dont care so much of the groove or rhythm of the loop, then cut hits out of the loop then sequence them however you want, then you can EQ and/or add effects to each drum seperately. of course you could try to recreate the exact rhythmic pattern of the loop after cutting them out but it will be very difficult to get the exact same groove.

It's nice to see you not trolling for a change considering you make dope music.

Basically if it sounds good use it be it a preset/loop/sample pack, it's the end result that matters. It's easy to tell when something is 100% dry presets and samples though so processing becomes more of a thing.
Here's a personal example for you

One of my most popular tunes and it's all 100% samples no synthesis at all.
The crowd noises I think I got from freesound or just googling or asking a bud for some crowd sounds.
The sax is from a jazz sample pack a bud posted on DOA (originally from a history of jazz book I think).
The rhodes was a preset midi demo for lounge lizard iirc or from an old akai sample/loop cd.
The vocals are from an old akai blues and jazz vocal sample cd.
The bass is an 808.
The upright bass is an akai sample cd multisample.
The main break and the breakdown one are both from sample packs as well.

This tune landed in as unsigned tune of the month in Knowledge magazine back when it wasn't just digital and still in print and quite highly praised.
The remix by Theory which just basically sped it up to more modern mixable bpm landed on Marcus Intalex's Fabriclive mix cd.

Just goes to show you that it doesn't matter where you get the sources, but how you use them that counts, that's not to say I wasn't chopping and processing the hell out of things, it's still a lot of work.

Use whatever sounds good.

Taken from this thread - http://www.dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=75601

Remember that thread. Actually was just trying to remember rendr's name. Shit with ten pound bag and him, toon battle, rendr being I'll destroy u, I'm gonna be on an ssl... funny times. Uhm, so glad that server migration kinda fucked up, and all my 'contributions' were lost to the future.

[wub]

Just noticed I started that thread over 4 and a half years ago

[nowaysj]

Vintage quality thread, NO BIGGUPS.

[LUNCHPADDLE]

Yeah Lounge Lizard is the dopeness but having a Rhodes is pimp mode x 1000. Collar popped so hard it's tucked in.

ahahahahaha

[nowaysj]

Hey wubbiekins, you ever check this out. I thought I remembered discussing this w/ you at some point:

http://www.discodsp.com/nightshine/

A likeware Alesis 3630 emulation that sounds pretty good. (as a video demo that is)

[wub]

oooooooooo...I don't remember seeing that before. Looks interesting, will give it a fiddle over the weekend...got a L.I.E.S./DABJ style house project thing going on that could benefit from 'crap' compression

[nowaysj]

I don't fb, so if you do pick it

Hey what happened to the rest of that sentence?

[wub]

Hey wubbiekins, you ever check this out. I thought I remembered discussing this w/ you at some point:

http://www.discodsp.com/nightshine/

A likeware Alesis 3630 emulation that sounds pretty good. (as a video demo that is)

Silly question but how do I download/buy it? Can't see a link on that page.