Why is burial considered dubstep?

[Hibbie]

Whats dubstep ?

what a clever new and original joke

lol

[Hibbie]

Fuck me, he only asked a question, he wasn't trolling, just inquisitive, how do we expect noobs to learn if the experienced arn't helpful in passing on the knowledge.

To the original poster -

Burial was definatly born from the dubstep movement, his audience however far surpasses this scene, which is why he is so successfull.

Dubstep is all encompassing (thank god) as remarked on earlier in this thread.

There arn't really any rules which is why I for one love it so much.

You talk the truth

[incnic]

OP should really know before coming asking quiestions tbh
it was released on HYPERDUB
that means it is dubstep afaik, even skream commented on ketamine.
also zomby the hyperdub ep, but had housebeat and post hardcore without a 2step beat ! ha!

[Genevieve]

also zomby the hyperdub ep, but had housebeat and post hardcore without a 2step beat ! ha!

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[fractal]

Also, the hyperdub connection, even if Hyperdub releases for the most part are not dubstep.

see I have a problem with this sentiment, because I've seen it elsewhere...

when you start disconnecting/disassociating the hyperdub stuff out away from the dubstep umbrella then you begin to minimize the potential for a recognition of variety in this sound and start making questions like "how is burial even considered dubstep?" sound more logical


all the sounds out there fit into the puzzle somehow!! what happened to embracing the wild styles?

completely agree

[L.o.s.]

It couldnt sound any more dubstep to me. Dark, south london sound, shuffley garage born rhythms around 140 bpmish with oodles of sub and clear influence from the UK rave dubstep precursors!

nailed it.

[jonnyrebel]

It couldnt sound any more dubstep to me. Dark, south london sound, shuffley garage born rhythms around 140 bpmish with oodles of sub and clear influence from the UK rave dubstep precursors!

nailed it.

yep I agree

dont think there is anything wrong with asking cos at the end of the day a lot of people (most) have a very limited view of what dubstep is and this guy obviously wants to find out a bit more...

A lot of the fans that have been around for a few years still see it as the exciting genre full of possibilties, commerecial and experimental alike but people still come up to me when im djing asking me to play dubstep if it has a hint of 4x4 or 2 steppyness to it or if it doesnt have any "woblez" in it. Actually even when it is a heavyweight tune ive had someone ask for dubstep because I played some techno a little while before it?!!!

At least this geeza is trying...

[tkun]

Whats dubstep ?

what a clever new and original joke

It's a valid question. What exactly is dubstep?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dubstep

there ya go mate

I was trying to get to see what you all considered to be dubstep, I already knew about that article. I clearly failed.

[feral witchchild]

berryal is budstep cuz he is a proper bad man

Indeed. The man ist krieg.

[pneumatic]

its best not to be concerned about these kinds of things - you should just kick back with a beer
or a spliff
or a glass of cold OJ
or an apple
or all of the above and make sure your sound system is tight and enjoy it for what it is.... alt rock

[two oh one]

I wish he'd concentrate on more of his midrange wobbly tracks with Batman samples in them. I've heard a couple of his WIPs and they're coming on a fucking treat.

[alexchuck]

because nobody knew exactly what dubstep is, at that time. and to be honest, ppl are still having a hard time labelling Burial. same about Milanese and other people who haven't obeyed boundaries and templates.


all the "mellow" dubstep producers will switch to funky/bassline/future garage/etc. the dubstep tag will be only for stuff like Skream/Benga/Caspa/Rusko/etc or Excision/Lukki/Babylon System/trillbass. 2-3 years from now it will be simpler.

[dr h]

Why does everyone and everything have to be neatly put into a box with a label?

[the-voice-of-reason]

I wouldn’t class burial as ‘dubstep’ and anyway the majority of his tunes are 120/130bpm which put them out of the traditional ‘dubstep’ boundaries but what really annoys me about ‘dubstep’ fans is that if a Techno/House/Grime Etc tune comes out on a ‘dubstep’ label it’s instantly classed as ‘dubstep’ , Even if it’s a straight up techno/house tune.

[rogue star]

From what I know and according to wiki the halftime beat developed later on (2004/2005'ish?) the earlier stuff (1999/2000) was more like this, really dark and minimal, thats what dubstep was, dark, minimal garage. Then the half step thing kicked off, it lost a lot of the space and tracks became more dense, more producers came in to give their take on it and here we are in 2009 and I couldn't be happier with the way music is and has been.

You still get people who listen to a dubstep track and go "where the fucks the drop?" they associate dubstep with bass drops but there's more to this genre than a lot of people realize.

you missed out a very fundemental part, the breaks in pre dubstep or whatever, i dont think Toasty was on a minimal flex, nor SnD or Darqwan, came right after the demise of UKG and before the first conception of the minimal slit ur wrists style of halfstep toona.

No need for half truths when your tryin to point the noob in the right direction, anyone would consider that...bad journalism!

[starkey]

tempo and sub are the only walls in this genre, and even those have begun to fade... dubstep is a pretty loose term

[jolly wailer]

what really annoys me about ‘dubstep’ fans is that if a tune comes out on a ‘dubstep’ label it’s instantly classed as ‘dubstep’

yeah who would have thought?

[adam_john]

Burial is some of my favorite dubstep to listen to. One thing I've grown to enjoy about the genre is the lack of restrictions most other forms of dance music have. It's a pretty open book - a lot can be done in that 140ish range, with the 2stepish beats, or without.

I don't play much of his music when I'm at a gig - i tend to listen to his music more when I'm in the car or chillin' out at home.

Fair question though.

[spooKs]

Is it because this is what early dubstep sounded like or something? Ive only been listening to dubstep for a few months now, and i do think most burial tunes are incredible, but cant see how they are labeled as dubstep. they sound nothing like the majority of dubstep tunes. Does he want his tunes labeled dubstep? seems more like downtempo or some shit

is this guy for real?

i know! he doesn't know as much about dubstep as you! TURBOL0Lz

Listen mate, when someone asks a question you wondered about some time ago, that's the cue to jump in a prove how much you - YOU YOU YOU - know about dubstep by belittling them and avoiding the question in the laziest way possible. THAT'S HOW THIS WORKS!

[mattrelton]

140 BPM + Bass Heavy.

Ah, but a lot of breakbeat fulfils this criteria perfectly