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Post by bass hertz » Tue Sep 08, 2009 10:41 am

Thanks guys, I have learned a lot.

Just one major thing missing. What is the TYPE of tea that's used in English tea? American brands say *orange pekoe & pekoe cut black tea* on the box.

What does English brands say?

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Post by BaronVon » Tue Sep 08, 2009 10:42 am

jduffy wrote:Quite alot of placwes around the world don't have milk in their tea, I think england is the only place where origonally milk and sugar was added to tea, the sugar maily because back then it was the 'white gold' and was only added to show wealth. Don't know about the milk, anyone shed light on that?

The term english tea is usually a tea with milk and/or with sugar
Most Tea drank in England was originally Green Tea. It's only when the English set up plantations in India that they started using Milk. Probably due to the influence of Indian spiced tea which used milk and sugar.

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Post by magma » Tue Sep 08, 2009 11:01 am

bass hertz wrote:Thanks guys, I have learned a lot.

Just one major thing missing. What is the TYPE of tea that's used in English tea? American brands say *orange pekoe & pekoe cut black tea* on the box.

What does English brands say?
It's normally a blend...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_Breakfast_tea
English Breakfast tea is a black tea blend usually described as full-bodied, robust, and/or rich, and blended to go well with milk and sugar, in a style traditionally associated with a hearty English breakfast. It is the most common style of tea in Britain.

The black teas included in the blend vary, with Assam, Ceylon and Kenyan teas predominating, and Keemun sometimes included in more expensive blends. There are many common brands of English Breakfast tea.
Each brand has it's own blend...
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Post by DRTY » Tue Sep 08, 2009 11:07 am

bass hertz wrote:Thanks guys, I have learned a lot.

Just one major thing missing. What is the TYPE of tea that's used in English tea? American brands say *orange pekoe & pekoe cut black tea* on the box.

What does English brands say?
You'll probably have trouble getting 'UK' tea over there.

But a good one to look for is 'english breakfast tea'. There must be somewhere that imports it, I buy US food here all the time :) Lucky Charms and Hershey's kisses FTW.

Here you go:

http://www.englishteastore.com/pg-80.html

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Post by kins83 » Tue Sep 08, 2009 11:10 am

BUILDERS TEA FTMFW
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Post by unlikely » Tue Sep 08, 2009 11:10 am

Its all about PG tips, tetleys is off

I remember PK on here singing the praises of M+S extra strong but am yet to try it

I do love lipton Ice tea though too. I was really dehydrated the othr night and my dreams were full of fridges full of the stuff just out of reach..


the chai you get at hippie things is nasty a lot of the time too, but tea with those tins of condensed milk and cardamom you get at indian supermarkets is lovely (as is chai in nepal which seems a lot like this). Hippies are quite good at ruining otherwise nice foodstuffs, I think this has something to do with a naive belief that they don't actually need to learn how to cook. It doesn't matter how organic and special it is; if you overcook half of it, undercook the rest of it, add something unrelated for no reason and don't use any seasonings, its shit!

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Post by DRTY » Tue Sep 08, 2009 11:17 am

unlikely wrote:Hippies are quite good at ruining otherwise nice foodstuffs, I think this has something to do with a naive belief that they don't actually need to learn how to cook. It doesn't matter how organic and special it is; if you overcook half of it, undercook the rest of it, add something unrelated for no reason and don't use any seasonings, its shit!
Damn straight, bloody hippies ruining shit.

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Post by kins83 » Tue Sep 08, 2009 11:20 am

bloody hippies.
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Post by slothrop » Tue Sep 08, 2009 11:27 am

kins83 wrote:BUILDERS TEA FTMFW
Remembering that true builders tea has a large number and a half sugars in. "Eight and a half sugars please, luv..."

Milk is absolutely standard for an english cup of tea - you'd be pretty surprised if you asked for tea and weren't given milk - but sugar is optional. I don't bother...

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Post by BNanni » Tue Sep 08, 2009 11:28 am

Slothrop wrote:
kins83 wrote:BUILDERS TEA FTMFW
Remembering that true builders tea has a large number and a half sugars in. "Eight and a half sugars please, luv..."

Milk is absolutely standard for an english cup of tea - you'd be pretty surprised if you asked for tea and weren't given milk - but sugar is optional. I don't bother...
I have 3 and a half sometimes.
But I'm not a builder.
Maybe I should be now, based on that.

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Post by uncle bill » Tue Sep 08, 2009 12:57 pm

Earl Grey is for girls.

Green Tea is for hippies.

For the benefit of our American friends, this is a typical conversation in England.

"English Breakfast Tea for the win, reverend.
PG Tips will do nicely. White, no sugar please.
Chocolate hobnob? Don't mind if I do.
Battenberg? Not for me, vicar, marzipan is fucking WRONG"
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Post by uncle bill » Tue Sep 08, 2009 1:01 pm

Oh, and for the benefit of those who haven't read it, here is an explanation of tea by the greatest Englishman of the 20th Century.

http://www.booksatoz.com/witsend/tea/orwell.htm
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Post by gnome » Tue Sep 08, 2009 1:53 pm

Rabea Tea. Sorts the men from the boys!

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Post by j-sh » Tue Sep 08, 2009 2:28 pm

I often enjoy one tea bag of yorkshire AND a tea bag of earl grey - in a mug.

Try that shit, tastes good

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Post by bright maroon » Tue Sep 08, 2009 4:57 pm

Your thinking of "High" Tea...


History of High Tea - History English Afternoon Tea


High Tea is often a misnomer. Most people refer to afternoon tea as high tea because they think it sounds regal and lofty, when in all actuality, high tea, or "meat tea" is dinner. High tea, in Britain, at any rate, tends to be on the heavier side. American hotels and tea rooms, on the other hand, continue to misunderstand and offer tidbits of fancy pastries and cakes on delicate china when they offer a "high tea."

Afternoon tea (because it was usually taken in the late afternoon) is also called "low tea" because it was usually taken in a sitting room or withdrawing room where low tables (like a coffee table) were placed near sofas or chairs generally in a large withdrawing room. There are three basic types of Afternoon, or Low Tea:

Cream Tea - Tea, scones, jam and cream

Light Tea - Tea, scones and sweets

Full Tea - Tea, savories, scones, sweets and dessert

In England, the traditional time for tea was four or five o'clock and no one stayed after seven o'clock. Most tea rooms today serve tea from three to five o'clock. The menu has also changed from tea, bread, butter and cakes, to include three particular courses served specifically in this order:

Savories - Tiny sandwiches or appetizers

Scones - Served with jam and Devonshire or clotted cream

Pastries - Cakes, cookies, shortbread and sweets



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History of Tea Time

Prior to the introduction of tea into Britain, the English had two main meals, breakfast and dinner. Breakfast was ale, bread, and beef. During the middle of the eighteenth century, dinner for the upper and middle classes had shifted from noontime to an evening meal that was served at a fashionable late hour. Dinner was a long, massive meal at the end of the day.

17th Century

Afternoon tea may have been started by the French. According to the monthly newsletter called TeaMuse, in the writings of Madame de Sévigné (1626 to 1696), one of history's greatest letter writers on life in 17th Century France:

It's a little known fact, but after its introduction to Europe in the 17th century tea was tremendously popular in France. It first arrived in Paris in 1636 (22 years before it appeared in England!) and quickly became popular among the aristocracy. . . Tea was so popular in Paris that Madame de Sévigné, who chronicled the doings of the Sun King and his cronies in a famous series of gossipy letters to her daughter, often found herself mentioning tea. "Saw the Princesse de Tarente [de Sévigné wrote]... who takes 12 cups of tea every day... which, she says, cures all her ills. She assured me that Monsieur de Landgrave drank 40 cups every morning. 'But Madame, perhaps it is really only 30 or so.' 'No, 40. He was dying, and it brought him back to life before our eyes.' . . . Madame de Sévigné also reported that it was a Frenchwoman, the Marquise de la Sablière, who initiated the fashion of adding milk to tea. "Madame de la Sablière took her tea with milk, as she told me the other day, because it was to her taste." (By the way, the English delighted in this "French touch" and immediately adopted it.)

1600 - Queen Elizabeth l (1533-1603) granted permission for the charter of the British East India Company (1600-1858), also known as the John Company, on December 31, 1600 to establish trade routes, ports, and trading relationships with the Far East, Southeast Asia, and India. Trade in spices was its original focus, but later traded in cottons, silks, indigo, saltpeter, and tea. Due to political and other factors, the tea trade didn’t begin until the late 1670s.

1662 - King Charles II (1630-1685) while in exile, married the Portuguese Infanta Catherine de Braganza (1638–1705). Catherine's dowry was the largest ever registered in world history. Portugal gave to England two million golden crusados, Tangier and Morocco in North Africa, Bombay in India, and also permission for the British to use all the ports in the Portuguese colonies in Africa, Asia and the Americas, thus giving England their first direct trading rights to tea.

As Charles had grown up in the Dutch capital, both he and his Portuguese bride were confirmed tea drinkers. When the monarchy was re-established, they brought this foreign tea tradition to England with them. Her influence made tea more popular amongst the wealthier classes of society, as whatever the royals did, everyone else wanted to copy. Soon tea mania spread swept across England, and it became the beverage of choice in English high society, replacing ale as the national drink.

The reign of Charles II was crucial in laying the foundations for the growth of the British tea trade. The East India Company was highly favored by Charles II. Charles confirmed its monopoly, and also extended it to give the Company unprecedented powers to occupy by military force places with which they wished to trade (so long as the people there were not Christians).

1663 - The poet and politician Edmund Waller (1606-1687) wrote a poem in honor of Queen Catherine for her birthday crediting her with making tea a fashionable drink amongst courtiers:

Venus her Myrtle, Phoebus has his bays;
Tea both excels, which she vouchsafes to praise.
The best of Queens, the best of herbs, we owe
To that bold nation which the way did show
To the fair region where the sun doth rise,
Whose rich productions we so justly prize.
The Muse's friend, tea does our fancy aid,
Regress those vapours which the head invade,
And keep the palace of the soul serene,
Fit on her birthday to salute the Queen


18th Century

By 1700, tea was on sale by more than 500 coffee houses in London. Tea drinking became even more popular when Queen Anne (1665–1714) chose tea over ale as her regular breakfast drink. Anne's character was once portrayed as a tea-drinking, social nonentity with lesbian tendencies.

During the second half of the Victorian Period, known as the Industrial Revolution, working families would return home tired and exhausted. The table would be set with any manner of meats, bread, butter, pickles, cheese and of course tea. None of the dainty finger sandwiches, scones and pastries of afternoon tea would have been on the menu. Because it was eaten at a high, dining table rather than the low tea tables, it was termed "high" tea.


19th Century

According to legend, one of Queen Victoria's (1819-1901) ladies-in-waiting, Anna Maria Stanhope (1783-1857), known as the Duchess of Bedford, is credited as the creator of afternoon teatime. Because the noon meal had become skimpier, the Duchess suffered from "a sinking feeling" at about four o'clock in the afternoon.

At first the Duchess had her servants sneak her a pot of tea and a few breadstuffs. Adopting the European tea service format, she invited friends to join her for an additional afternoon meal at five o'clock in her rooms at Belvoir Castle. The menu centered around small cakes, bread and butter sandwiches, assorted sweets, and, of course, tea. This summer practice proved so popular, the Duchess continued it when she returned to London, sending cards to her friends asking them to join her for "tea and a walking the fields." The practice of inviting friends to come for tea in the afternoon was quickly picked up by other social hostesses.

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Post by buckfaster » Tue Sep 08, 2009 7:10 pm

jduffy wrote:Quite alot of placwes around the world don't have milk in their tea, I think england is the only place where origonally milk and sugar was added to tea, the sugar maily because back then it was the 'white gold' and was only added to show wealth. Don't know about the milk, anyone shed light on that?

The term english tea is usually a tea with milk and/or with sugar
Milk was originally added first to the cup so the heat of the water didn't crack the china cups. As dispensed to me through the wonder of unemployment and daytime television.
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