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Re: Coke Addiction

Post by collige » Thu Oct 29, 2009 1:29 am

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alien pimp wrote:lol, just read about a study made by a research institute in US concluding fast food is as addictive as heroine
I'm doubtful that someone can die from Big Mac withdrawal. Link?
a link to a dictionary maybe, to see what addictive means
but do you know what's the top 3 fatal diseases in your country and what causes them? you might find out big mac kills on a large scale
I was asking for a link to the study.

I know perfectly well what addictive means, but I highly doubt that the study showed that fast food is physically addictive. If it isn't, then the comparison to heroin is entirely unfair.
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Re: Coke Addiction

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collige wrote:
alien pimp wrote:
collige wrote:
alien pimp wrote:lol, just read about a study made by a research institute in US concluding fast food is as addictive as heroine
I'm doubtful that someone can die from Big Mac withdrawal. Link?
a link to a dictionary maybe, to see what addictive means
but do you know what's the top 3 fatal diseases in your country and what causes them? you might find out big mac kills on a large scale
I was asking for a link to the study.

I know perfectly well what addictive means, but I highly doubt that the study showed that fast food is physically addictive. If it isn't, then the comparison to heroin is entirely unfair.
a man who knows what addictive means doesn't answer what you answered about death from withdrawal because addictive refers to how fast/bad they hook you up and what you say is how bad you suffer from withdrawal

the only thing closer as addictiveness to heroin is tobacco. and you don't suffer from tobacco withdrawal as much as from heroine i heard.

so they are unrelated and the only thing stupid is not where you said it is

the study is in daily express, yesterday's i guess
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Re: Coke Addiction

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There has been a lot of speculation about the effect of Coca Cola on the human stomach. There were those that said that the popular beverage could literally cause our intestines to melt if we drink to much of the stuff. Coca Cola always denied the rumors and said that their product is no worse than other soft drinks on the market and there was no official proof of the “dissolving effect“.

So a bunch of guys decided to conduct their own experiment and find out if the rumors are true. They just took a piece of red meat, put it in a plate and poured some Coca Cola over it. They left it there for two days and took some photos throughout their experiment. The Coke didn’t completely dissolve the meat but you can see that it doesn’t look like anything you’d like to have inside your body. And the smell was unbearable.

I’m sure pretty much everyone knew that Coca Cola wasn’t the healthiest drink on the market, but I for one didn’t think it could do that to flesh. No more Coke for me!
Leave meat out for two days without pouring it in Coke and see what happends/it smells like.

I'm sure Coke is shit for your health, but, come'on. Pour orange juice on there and see what happends, or vitamin C tablets.

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Re: Coke Addiction

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http://www.procon.org/viewbackgroundres ... rceID=1492
Withdrawal does not define addictiveness, but physical dependency is a factor. In any event, this is just another good reason not to eat fast food on a regular basis(just in case diabetes and heart disease weren't good enough).
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Re: Coke Addiction

Post by collige » Thu Oct 29, 2009 2:08 am

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alien pimp wrote:
There has been a lot of speculation about the effect of Coca Cola on the human stomach. There were those that said that the popular beverage could literally cause our intestines to melt if we drink to much of the stuff. Coca Cola always denied the rumors and said that their product is no worse than other soft drinks on the market and there was no official proof of the “dissolving effect“.

So a bunch of guys decided to conduct their own experiment and find out if the rumors are true. They just took a piece of red meat, put it in a plate and poured some Coca Cola over it. They left it there for two days and took some photos throughout their experiment. The Coke didn’t completely dissolve the meat but you can see that it doesn’t look like anything you’d like to have inside your body. And the smell was unbearable.

I’m sure pretty much everyone knew that Coca Cola wasn’t the healthiest drink on the market, but I for one didn’t think it could do that to flesh. No more Coke for me!
Leave meat out for two days without pouring it in Coke and see what happends/it smells like.

I'm sure Coke is shit for your health, but, come'on. Pour orange juice on there and see what happends, or vitamin C tablets.
This. A slab of dead meat left out in the sun isn't really comparable to a living person's intestines.
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Re: Coke Addiction

Post by kay » Thu Oct 29, 2009 2:21 am

alien pimp wrote:Have you ever wondered why Coke comes with a smile? It’s because it gets you high. They took the cocaine out almost a hundred years ago. You know why? It was redundant.

* In The First 10 minutes: 10 teaspoons of sugar hit your system. (100% of your recommended daily intake.) You don’t immediately vomit from the overwhelming sweetness because phosphoric acid cuts the flavor allowing you to keep it down.
* 20 minutes: Your blood sugar spikes, causing an insulin burst. Your liver responds to this by turning any sugar it can get its hands on into fat. (There’s plenty of that at this particular moment)
* 40 minutes: Caffeine absorption is complete. Your pupils dilate, your blood pressure rises, as a response your livers dumps more sugar into your bloodstream. The adenosine receptors in your brain are now blocked preventing drowsiness.
* 45 minutes: Your body ups your dopamine production stimulating the pleasure centers of your brain. This is physically the same way heroin works, by the way.
* >60 minutes: The phosphoric acid binds calcium, magnesium and zinc in your lower intestine, providing a further boost in metabolism. This is compounded by high doses of sugar and artificial sweeteners also increasing the urinary excretion of calcium.
* >60 Minutes: The caffeine’s diuretic properties come into play. (It makes you have to pee.) It is now assured that you’ll evacuate the bonded calcium, magnesium and zinc that was headed to your bones as well as sodium, electrolyte and water.
* >60 minutes: As the rave inside of you dies down you’ll start to have a sugar crash. You may become irritable and/or sluggish. You’ve also now, literally, pissed away all the water that was in the Coke. But not before infusing it with valuable nutrients your body could have used for things like even having the ability to hydrate your system or build strong bones and teeth.

This will all be followed by a caffeine crash in the next few hours. (As little as two if you’re a smoker.) But, hey, have another Coke, it’ll make you feel better.

http://www.blisstree.com/healthbolt/wha ... right-now/
Interesting breakdown of events. I've never felt any such particular effects from drinking coke, and I would not classify myself as someone who drinks coke particularly often and so would definitely notice any such occurrences. It certainly has never done anything to make me feel more awake or increased my need to pee above normal requirements.

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Re: Coke Addiction

Post by alien pimp » Thu Oct 29, 2009 2:29 am

collige wrote:http://www.procon.org/viewbackgroundres ... rceID=1492
Withdrawal does not define addictiveness, but physical dependency is a factor. In any event, this is just another good reason not to eat fast food on a regular basis(just in case diabetes and heart disease weren't good enough).
that's a different approach already, you already gathered 3 distinctive perspective to put "=" between them. not like someone who knows what addictive means. and nobody but you said anything about physical dependency.
if your mind was your room, yo mamma would ground one month you for the mess there

so rewind, delete, and leave the addictiveness where it was before ;)
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Re: Coke Addiction

Post by alien pimp » Thu Oct 29, 2009 2:33 am

collige wrote:
noesis wrote:
alien pimp wrote:
There has been a lot of speculation about the effect of Coca Cola on the human stomach. There were those that said that the popular beverage could literally cause our intestines to melt if we drink to much of the stuff. Coca Cola always denied the rumors and said that their product is no worse than other soft drinks on the market and there was no official proof of the “dissolving effect“.

So a bunch of guys decided to conduct their own experiment and find out if the rumors are true. They just took a piece of red meat, put it in a plate and poured some Coca Cola over it. They left it there for two days and took some photos throughout their experiment. The Coke didn’t completely dissolve the meat but you can see that it doesn’t look like anything you’d like to have inside your body. And the smell was unbearable.

I’m sure pretty much everyone knew that Coca Cola wasn’t the healthiest drink on the market, but I for one didn’t think it could do that to flesh. No more Coke for me!
Leave meat out for two days without pouring it in Coke and see what happends/it smells like.

I'm sure Coke is shit for your health, but, come'on. Pour orange juice on there and see what happends, or vitamin C tablets.
This. A slab of dead meat left out in the sun isn't really comparable to a living person's intestines.
no. but a slab of meat in a room, at room temperature, covered in coke can give you an approximation of what's gonna happen if your stomach was filled with coke every day. which is what they are talking about there
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Re: Coke Addiction

Post by alien pimp » Thu Oct 29, 2009 2:39 am

kay wrote:Interesting breakdown of events. I've never felt any such particular effects from drinking coke, and I would not classify myself as someone who drinks coke particularly often and so would definitely notice any such occurrences. It certainly has never done anything to make me feel more awake or increased my need to pee above normal requirements.
possibly, it all depends, obviously
and nobody there says about "increasing the need to pee above normal requirements" exactly because it's hard to define such things, they said you'll pee it in about 1h for sure. can you bet you don't?
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Re: Coke Addiction

Post by jsaxton » Thu Oct 29, 2009 8:44 am

i drink a little less than you but i get cravings all the time :|
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Re: Coke Addiction

Post by chainsawclownstyle » Thu Oct 29, 2009 9:02 am

If I don't have caffeine I will be debilitated by a migraine headache. Yea, it's an addiction far worse than any drug I imagine. I'd rather be shitting in my pants dope sick off heroin(maybe not, I don't have experience lol.)
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Re: Coke Addiction

Post by kay » Fri Oct 30, 2009 3:51 am

alien pimp wrote:
kay wrote:Interesting breakdown of events. I've never felt any such particular effects from drinking coke, and I would not classify myself as someone who drinks coke particularly often and so would definitely notice any such occurrences. It certainly has never done anything to make me feel more awake or increased my need to pee above normal requirements.
possibly, it all depends, obviously
and nobody there says about "increasing the need to pee above normal requirements" exactly because it's hard to define such things, they said you'll pee it in about 1h for sure. can you bet you don't?
Well if I drank a litre of coke, I'd certainly expect to pee in about an hour. If I drank a litre of anything, I'd expect to pee in an hour. So their conjecture is not any more conclusive.

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Re: Coke Addiction

Post by noesis » Fri Oct 30, 2009 11:49 am

alien pimp wrote:
collige wrote:
noesis wrote:
alien pimp wrote:
There has been a lot of speculation about the effect of Coca Cola on the human stomach. There were those that said that the popular beverage could literally cause our intestines to melt if we drink to much of the stuff. Coca Cola always denied the rumors and said that their product is no worse than other soft drinks on the market and there was no official proof of the “dissolving effect“.

So a bunch of guys decided to conduct their own experiment and find out if the rumors are true. They just took a piece of red meat, put it in a plate and poured some Coca Cola over it. They left it there for two days and took some photos throughout their experiment. The Coke didn’t completely dissolve the meat but you can see that it doesn’t look like anything you’d like to have inside your body. And the smell was unbearable.

I’m sure pretty much everyone knew that Coca Cola wasn’t the healthiest drink on the market, but I for one didn’t think it could do that to flesh. No more Coke for me!
Leave meat out for two days without pouring it in Coke and see what happends/it smells like.

I'm sure Coke is shit for your health, but, come'on. Pour orange juice on there and see what happends, or vitamin C tablets.
This. A slab of dead meat left out in the sun isn't really comparable to a living person's intestines.
no. but a slab of meat in a room, at room temperature, covered in coke can give you an approximation of what's gonna happen if your stomach was filled with coke every day. which is what they are talking about there
Noo... it could give you an approximation of what gonna happen if your were DEAD and your stomach was filled with coke every day.
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Re: Coke Addiction

Post by pikeymobile » Fri Oct 30, 2009 12:12 pm

alien pimp wrote:
collige wrote:
noesis wrote:
alien pimp wrote:
There has been a lot of speculation about the effect of Coca Cola on the human stomach. There were those that said that the popular beverage could literally cause our intestines to melt if we drink to much of the stuff. Coca Cola always denied the rumors and said that their product is no worse than other soft drinks on the market and there was no official proof of the “dissolving effect“.

So a bunch of guys decided to conduct their own experiment and find out if the rumors are true. They just took a piece of red meat, put it in a plate and poured some Coca Cola over it. They left it there for two days and took some photos throughout their experiment. The Coke didn’t completely dissolve the meat but you can see that it doesn’t look like anything you’d like to have inside your body. And the smell was unbearable.

I’m sure pretty much everyone knew that Coca Cola wasn’t the healthiest drink on the market, but I for one didn’t think it could do that to flesh. No more Coke for me!
Leave meat out for two days without pouring it in Coke and see what happends/it smells like.

I'm sure Coke is shit for your health, but, come'on. Pour orange juice on there and see what happends, or vitamin C tablets.
This. A slab of dead meat left out in the sun isn't really comparable to a living person's intestines.
no. but a slab of meat in a room, at room temperature, covered in coke can give you an approximation of what's gonna happen if your stomach was filled with coke every day. which is what they are talking about there
Not really, it only sits in your stomach for a small amount of time, and the hydrochloric acid and enzymes do MUCH more damage to it whilst it's there. Once it's in your intestines in 10-30 minutes all acidic properties of anything in your stomach are neutralised. Once it's in your intestines enzymes get to work and carry on breaking that shit down on a molecular level so your intestines can absorb it. The whole argument of coca cola being corrosive towards things is a null argument. Pour orange juice or vinegar on meat and leave it there at room temperature and you'll get similar levels of corrosiveness.
I'm not vindicating coke or anything, but there's much worse things people put in them than coke on a regular basis. See: A heavy weekend on alcohol. You don't shit out blood if you're addicted to coke now, unlike a jolly alcoholic. Too much vodka = acid reflux, too much coke = you get full.

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Re: Coke Addiction

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kay wrote:
alien pimp wrote:
kay wrote:Interesting breakdown of events. I've never felt any such particular effects from drinking coke, and I would not classify myself as someone who drinks coke particularly often and so would definitely notice any such occurrences. It certainly has never done anything to make me feel more awake or increased my need to pee above normal requirements.
possibly, it all depends, obviously
and nobody there says about "increasing the need to pee above normal requirements" exactly because it's hard to define such things, they said you'll pee it in about 1h for sure. can you bet you don't?
Well if I drank a litre of coke, I'd certainly expect to pee in about an hour. If I drank a litre of anything, I'd expect to pee in an hour. So their conjecture is not any more conclusive.

nobody said 1l, a dose has 0,33 usually and the fact that you pee it is no focal argument in the conjecture
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Post by alien pimp » Fri Oct 30, 2009 1:53 pm

noesis wrote:Noo... it could give you an approximation of what gonna happen if your were DEAD and your stomach was filled with coke every day.
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that even more, but also it would give you an approx of what happens if you drink more along the day, more days in a row, like many do, because then you'd have coke in your intestines for more hours

nobody said from holding one dose of coke 1h in your body is the same as permanently having coke there, are you fore real??
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Re: Coke Addiction

Post by alien pimp » Fri Oct 30, 2009 1:58 pm

pikeymobile wrote:Not really, it only sits in your stomach for a small amount of time, and the hydrochloric acid and enzymes do MUCH more damage to it whilst it's there. Once it's in your intestines in 10-30 minutes all acidic properties of anything in your stomach are neutralised. Once it's in your intestines enzymes get to work and carry on breaking that shit down on a molecular level so your intestines can absorb it. The whole argument of coca cola being corrosive towards things is a null argument. Pour orange juice or vinegar on meat and leave it there at room temperature and you'll get similar levels of corrosiveness.
I'm not vindicating coke or anything, but there's much worse things people put in them than coke on a regular basis. See: A heavy weekend on alcohol. You don't shit out blood if you're addicted to coke now, unlike a jolly alcoholic. Too much vodka = acid reflux, too much coke = you get full.
i meant intestines too, not stomach, sorry

it sits in your stomach for a little if you drink just one, many people drink several doses in a day, or even liters per day as discussed.

nobody said it's better to have vinegar, vodka or orange juice in your stomach for prolonged period of times, just different, are you for real??
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Re: Coke Addiction

Post by POND LIFE » Fri Oct 30, 2009 2:13 pm

addiction to red coke would be far too expensive. if it was cheap then id drink nothing else. however i have been battling with a habit for asda brand ginger beer. £1 a case, why drink anything else?
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Re: Coke Addiction

Post by pikeymobile » Fri Oct 30, 2009 2:14 pm

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pikeymobile wrote:Not really, it only sits in your stomach for a small amount of time, and the hydrochloric acid and enzymes do MUCH more damage to it whilst it's there. Once it's in your intestines in 10-30 minutes all acidic properties of anything in your stomach are neutralised. Once it's in your intestines enzymes get to work and carry on breaking that shit down on a molecular level so your intestines can absorb it. The whole argument of coca cola being corrosive towards things is a null argument. Pour orange juice or vinegar on meat and leave it there at room temperature and you'll get similar levels of corrosiveness.
I'm not vindicating coke or anything, but there's much worse things people put in them than coke on a regular basis. See: A heavy weekend on alcohol. You don't shit out blood if you're addicted to coke now, unlike a jolly alcoholic. Too much vodka = acid reflux, too much coke = you get full.
i meant intestines too, not stomach, sorry

it sits in your stomach for a little if you drink just one, many people drink several doses in a day, or even liters per day as discussed.

nobody said it's better to have vinegar, vodka or orange juice in your stomach for prolonged period of times, just different, are you for real??
I was just disputing your whole "it's corrosive, therefore bad for you" argument. Your stomach has pretty epic defenses against corrosiveness, mainly the lining having that layer of mucus protecting it from any acidic dangers. Once it's in your intestines it gets absorbed very quickly, being a liquid, and around 20% of it gets absorbed in your stomach. Coke is incredibly bad for you, and this is a point I won't argue, but when you get lots of conspiracy nuts on the internets (like that blog post) going "OMG LOOK WHAT IT DID TO THE MEAT IT DOES THIS TO YOUR INTESTINES" it's just rediculous faux-chemistry (or biology depending on what way you look at it).

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Re: Coke Addiction

Post by alien pimp » Fri Oct 30, 2009 2:28 pm

pikeymobile wrote:
alien pimp wrote:
pikeymobile wrote:Not really, it only sits in your stomach for a small amount of time, and the hydrochloric acid and enzymes do MUCH more damage to it whilst it's there. Once it's in your intestines in 10-30 minutes all acidic properties of anything in your stomach are neutralised. Once it's in your intestines enzymes get to work and carry on breaking that shit down on a molecular level so your intestines can absorb it. The whole argument of coca cola being corrosive towards things is a null argument. Pour orange juice or vinegar on meat and leave it there at room temperature and you'll get similar levels of corrosiveness.
I'm not vindicating coke or anything, but there's much worse things people put in them than coke on a regular basis. See: A heavy weekend on alcohol. You don't shit out blood if you're addicted to coke now, unlike a jolly alcoholic. Too much vodka = acid reflux, too much coke = you get full.
i meant intestines too, not stomach, sorry

it sits in your stomach for a little if you drink just one, many people drink several doses in a day, or even liters per day as discussed.

nobody said it's better to have vinegar, vodka or orange juice in your stomach for prolonged period of times, just different, are you for real??
I was just disputing your whole "it's corrosive, therefore bad for you" argument. Your stomach has pretty epic defenses against corrosiveness, mainly the lining having that layer of mucus protecting it from any acidic dangers. Once it's in your intestines it gets absorbed very quickly, being a liquid, and around 20% of it gets absorbed in your stomach. Coke is incredibly bad for you, and this is a point I won't argue, but when you get lots of conspiracy nuts on the internets (like that blog post) going "OMG LOOK WHAT IT DID TO THE MEAT IT DOES THIS TO YOUR INTESTINES" it's just rediculous faux-chemistry (or biology depending on what way you look at it).
yeah, and you disputed it poorly and i showed that
and you if continue like that it proves you're wearing your head just to keep rain out of your throat, nobody said that's any chemistry or biology, it was a simple practical experiment from which you understand some things if you have the ability, like if the coke does that to the meat in a couple of days, you can assume to a lesser degree something similar would happen to my stomach if it's filled with coke several hours a day, more days in a row

while you're guessing absorption percentages and shit, an earlier post shows pretty accurately what happens

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