Disconnect between dubstep on dubstepforum vs. in real life

[helix]

Under no circumstances should you let DSF dictate your taste in music.

But on the other side of the same coin, let DSF show you music, then decide whether you like it or not.
I've learned of so much music from this forum.

[boxxy]

i haven't seen a disconnect, but then again, i don't live in colorado! seattle has a really diverse scene, something for everyone! We have deep nights, noisy nights and nights that contain all facets of music. seattle is pretty much the shit, IRL

what you know about decibel festival? all these artists, playing what they love!

214
ADLIB
ALEX B
BEATS ANTIQUE
BEN FROST
BEN TACTIC
BLUETECH PRESENTS SATORI SOCIAL
CARL CRAIG
CASSY
CATZ 'N DOGZ
CLUBROOT
CTRL_ALT_DLT
DAN BELL
DASH EXP
DEEPCHILD
DEEPVIBEZ
DINKY
DISCO NIHILIST
DISTANCE
DUBTEK
EAN GOLDEN
EMANCIPATOR
ENERGY FLASH
ESKMO
FALTYDL
FAX
FENNESZ
GOLD PANDA
GROUPER
GRYM
HEADHUNTER AKA ADDISON GROOVE
IKONIKA
ILL COSBY
INCYDE
INTROCUT
JAGGA CULTURE
JEROMY NAIL
JON A.D.
KEVIN SAUNDERSON
KID HOPS
KID SIMPLE
KRIS MOON
KYLE HALL
LAWNCHAIR GENERALS
LAWRENCE ENGLISH
LEVI CLARK
LINCOLNUP
LIONCUB
LORN
LOW LIMIT OF LAZER SWORD
LUKE HESS
LUKKI
LUSINE
MACHINEDRUM
MARK VAN HOEN
MARY ANNE HOBBS
MENAMI
MICHAEL MANAHAN
MISTER LEISURE
MODESELEKTOR
MONKEYTEK
MONOLAKE / ROBERT HENKE
MONTY LUKE
MORITZ VON OSWALD TRIO
MOUNT KIMBIE
MURCOF
MUX MOOL
NORDIC SOUL
NOVELLER
ONEOHTRIX POINT NEVER
PANTHA DU PRINCE
PEZZNER
PFADFINDEREI
PHIDELITY
PHUTUREPRIMITIVE
PLASTICIAN
PRAVEEN
PRESS
RAFAEL ANTON IRISARRI
RAMIRO
RECESS
RYAN ORGAN
SAMIYAM
SANSO-XTRO
SAPPHO
SCUBA
SEPALCURE
SHLOHMO
SOUL CLAP
SPLATINUM
STARKEY
STRUGGLE
SUNTZU SOUND
SURPASS
TANNER ROSS
TEEBS
THE PERFECT CYN
THEO PARRISH
TIM GREEN
TRACER VISUALS
TRUCKASAURAS
TRUS'ME
TZR
UNTOLD
VIBESQUAD
VLADISLAV DELAY

diversity

[boxxy]

I've learned of so much music from this forum.

amen brother!

[pkay]

Under no circumstances should you let DSF dictate your taste in music.

But on the other side of the same coin, let DSF show you music, then decide whether you like it or not.
I've learned of so much music from this forum.

Dictate and educate are two completely different things

Plus most of the awesomeness is in SNH anywho.

[Omega Dub]

You've got one of the more solid dubstep scenes in the US in Denver. There are lots of people doing big things in your city.

One of the beautiful things about Dubstep in the US is that we aren't confined by the expectations of the UK. No matter what we do, a handfull of retards are gonna chat shit on us no matter what so fuck it. Just do whatever gets you going.

Use this site for what its worth, networking and bare lols. Under no circumstances should you let DSF dictate your taste in music.

For sure man, I'm very happy that I live in Denver right now And no worries, if I let DSF dictate my taste in music, I wouldn't be putting out tunes like the one in my sig.

Well met, btw, dubsaw has been releasing some monster tunes lately!

[Sharmaji]

denver and boulder have really strong music scenes. Colorado in general is a suprisingly huge market-- we've been out there 4 times so far this year, with more booked to come. Boulder's definitely the epicenter of the US crossover between electronic music and this whole jamband thing-- Alex B/pneuma trio, big gigantic, eoto all have home bases there.

The uk is the size of, what? half of new england? vermont & New Hampshire rolled together? regional scenes in this country are WILDLY different from each other. the energy of playing in austin is more or less awesome than playing in seattle-- but completely different.

so the reality is this:

the 'scene' in the states is really a lot of hugely varied scenes;
the interwebz are a great tool for communicating; less so for getting a sense of the world outside of it;
"candy shop" makes me sad but 18-year old festival goers love it. it's just not gonna appear in my sets...

[Omega Dub]

But on the other side of the same coin, let DSF show you music, then decide whether you like it or not.
I've learned of so much music from this forum.

yeah man, definitely. i've been lurking this forum for years, for just that purpose.

[truefiktion]

i haven't seen a disconnect, but then again, i don't live in colorado! seattle has a really diverse scene, something for everyone! We have deep nights, noisy nights and nights that contain all facets of music. seattle is pretty much the shit, IRL

what you know about decibel festival? all these artists, playing what they love!

214
ADLIB
ALEX B
BEATS ANTIQUE
BEN FROST
BEN TACTIC
BLUETECH PRESENTS SATORI SOCIAL
CARL CRAIG
CASSY
CATZ 'N DOGZ
CLUBROOT
CTRL_ALT_DLT
DAN BELL
DASH EXP
DEEPCHILD
DEEPVIBEZ
DINKY
DISCO NIHILIST
DISTANCE
DUBTEK
EAN GOLDEN
EMANCIPATOR
ENERGY FLASH
ESKMO
FALTYDL
FAX
FENNESZ
GOLD PANDA
GROUPER
GRYM
HEADHUNTER AKA ADDISON GROOVE
IKONIKA
ILL COSBY
INCYDE
INTROCUT
JAGGA CULTURE
JEROMY NAIL
JON A.D.
KEVIN SAUNDERSON
KID HOPS
KID SIMPLE
KRIS MOON
KYLE HALL
LAWNCHAIR GENERALS
LAWRENCE ENGLISH
LEVI CLARK
LINCOLNUP
LIONCUB
LORN
LOW LIMIT OF LAZER SWORD
LUKE HESS
LUKKI
LUSINE
MACHINEDRUM
MARK VAN HOEN
MARY ANNE HOBBS
MENAMI
MICHAEL MANAHAN
MISTER LEISURE
MODESELEKTOR
MONKEYTEK
MONOLAKE / ROBERT HENKE
MONTY LUKE
MORITZ VON OSWALD TRIO
MOUNT KIMBIE
MURCOF
MUX MOOL
NORDIC SOUL
NOVELLER
ONEOHTRIX POINT NEVER
PANTHA DU PRINCE
PEZZNER
PFADFINDEREI
PHIDELITY
PHUTUREPRIMITIVE
PLASTICIAN
PRAVEEN
PRESS
RAFAEL ANTON IRISARRI
RAMIRO
RECESS
RYAN ORGAN
SAMIYAM
SANSO-XTRO
SAPPHO
SCUBA
SEPALCURE
SHLOHMO
SOUL CLAP
SPLATINUM
STARKEY
STRUGGLE
SUNTZU SOUND
SURPASS
TANNER ROSS
TEEBS
THE PERFECT CYN
THEO PARRISH
TIM GREEN
TRACER VISUALS
TRUCKASAURAS
TRUS'ME
TZR
UNTOLD
VIBESQUAD
VLADISLAV DELAY

diversity

Boxxy i thought you died?

[Omega Dub]

denver and boulder have really strong music scenes. Colorado in general is a suprisingly huge market-- we've been out there 4 times so far this year, with more booked to come. Boulder's definitely the epicenter of the US crossover between electronic music and this whole jamband thing-- Alex B/pneuma trio, big gigantic, eoto all have home bases there.

I know, I was supposed to play after you guys at Horizons festival back about a month ago - till the damn cops showed up.

[joeki]

Another thing I don't get.

What's with the cops showing up at parties (I refuse to call them raves, that spirit is long gone) in the US. Not once have I encountered this in Western Europa or Japan. (I have encountered the problem in Eastern Europe...)

[dq]

the promoters are not throwing those parties..

[incnic]

[pompende]

I live in the D.C area with baltimore being the closest dubstep scene. The problem with the scene in baltimore is that the scene consists of mostly chainsaw, aggressive loud dubstep with kids running around with glow sticks, white gloves and clown pants. All that is cool...but not my cup of tea.
The more minimal sound just does not come around. The demand is not there or the promoters are not throwing those parties..

Headhunter at Loda in october 2008 was sick tho!

[immortal]

I see a disconnect. I'd mostly put that down to a lot of forum members being unable to cope with the fact that dubstep is changing and growing.

Just look at the poor guy who tried to get song IDs for an Excision set. No helpful answers so far, just people ripping.

A lot of people on this forum are unhelpful .

I agree with that as a generalisation too a certain extent too be honest,im not dissing,i dont like change too so its fair that other poeple dont either....but things really will keep changing

Hard times.....

[pkay]

You've got one of the more solid dubstep scenes in the US in Denver. There are lots of people doing big things in your city.

One of the beautiful things about Dubstep in the US is that we aren't confined by the expectations of the UK. No matter what we do, a handfull of retards are gonna chat shit on us no matter what so fuck it. Just do whatever gets you going.

Use this site for what its worth, networking and bare lols. Under no circumstances should you let DSF dictate your taste in music.

For sure man, I'm very happy that I live in Denver right now And no worries, if I let DSF dictate my taste in music, I wouldn't be putting out tunes like the one in my sig.

Well met, btw, dubsaw has been releasing some monster tunes lately!

Cheers man. Looks like I'll be doing some shows with MC Messinian and possibly some of the other simplify agency folks (hulk, symbl, sluggo) this winter. Talked with a few folks in Denver so should be coming through once we get the details sorted. Really excited about possibly coming through. Heard nothing but high praise from your scene.

Glad to have you on the forums, check out the secret ninja forum as well. Despite our stupidity, really some great music/art threads on there

[tacospheros]

am i gonna be the only one to say it



THIS GUY'S A NARC

[fractal]

I see a disconnect. I'd mostly put that down to a lot of forum members being unable to cope with the fact that dubstep is changing and growing.

Just look at the poor guy who tried to get song IDs for an Excision set. No helpful answers so far, just people ripping.

A lot of people on this forum are unhelpful .

I agree with that as a generalisation too a certain extent too be honest,im not dissing,i dont like change too so its fair that other poeple dont either....but things really will keep changing

Hard times.....

imho, the dubstep that's changing is what people love, it's the dubstep that stays the same that gets a hard time around here

[seckle]

in the US is that we aren't confined by the expectations of the UK.

you'll never go anywhere with that attitude. its defeatist, and you've built an "american dubstep" wall around yourself.

location has absolutely NOTHING to do with it. look at starkey, djg, kyle hall, matty g, falty dl, moldy, distal, etc etc....and those are just a handful of americans as an example.

[fractal]

yes seckle

[pkay]

in the US is that we aren't confined by the expectations of the UK.

you'll never go anywhere with that attitude. its defeatist, and you've built an "american dubstep" wall around yourself.

location has absolutely NOTHING to do with it. look at starkey, djg, kyle hall, matty g, falty dl, moldy, distal, etc etc....and those are just a handful of americans as an example.

How is that defeatist even in the slightest? So lets try that again, this time giving the full context of what i said instead of picking out a small portion and trying to take it out of context. I think you mistook me for saying 'cant please brits so don't even try'. Instead more so saying 'haters gonna hate, don't worry about them'

One of the beautiful things about Dubstep in the US is that we aren't confined by the expectations of the UK. No matter what we do, a handfull of retards are gonna chat shit on us no matter what so fuck it. Just do whatever gets you going.

I'm saying enjoy the fact that here in the US we aren't weighed down by the sub-genre divisions going on elsewhere in dubstep. Words like "beautiful things" would imply a positive outlook on our scene here, and embracing the fact we have quite a bit of freedom and acceptance for filth, brostep, roots and classic dubstep.

So once again, not defeatist in the slightest, more so saying look on the upside of where you live and embrace your scene for what it's worth.

I agree location has NOTHING to do with any measure of success in music.... especially if you embrace the enviroment you're in and enjoy it for what it is.