American Mid-Term Elections

[pompende]

The growth in the mid to late 90's wasn't based on actual wealth. It was based on speculation and the results spread to literally every corner of our economy. It was false. It was not real. We've been trying to cover up that colossal fuck up for the past 15 years and have failed miserably at it.

maybe you should read some articles on international political economics.

or just start by watching the PBS documentary Commanding Heights...

[seckle]

this explains the precipice to which we're heading. these days are way beyond wall street. its all about worldwide private equity like these guys. they control 90 billion dollars in private money.
http://www.charlierose.com/view/interview/11144

[pkay]

The growth in the mid to late 90's wasn't based on actual wealth. It was based on speculation and the results spread to literally every corner of our economy. It was false. It was not real. We've been trying to cover up that colossal fuck up for the past 15 years and have failed miserably at it.

maybe you should read some articles on international political economics.

or just start by watching the PBS documentary Commanding Heights...

I'm aware that speculative investments are a part of our economy. What happened in the 90's wasn't normal. We went completely batshit.

The term Moral Hazard couldn't be used enough in defining what happened i the 90's. Dot Com Bubble bled into the Housing Bubble. Direct relation in my opinion.

[alien pimp]

its all about worldwide private equity like these guys. they control 90 billion dollars in private money.
http://www.charlierose.com/view/interview/11144

where did i hear stuff like that before....
ughh, it was me back in the time when you were giving everyone a buttslap for posts like this...

90 billions is nothing

[alien pimp]

bottom line is you can't blame a government or a president for what happens on wall street.

so it's like the wall street rapes the pres and the gov and they can't do anything about it
it's not like the gov is basically made of people who come from the same circle of interests and are there to pursue/serve them, naaaahhh

wall street is much bigger than the president. look at who owns our national debt, and look at who benefits off our national debt, and look at who speculates and trades off our national debt, and you can quickly see how the president's got very little influence on wall street anymore. he can spank wall street on the hand, but the days when one financial wizard ruled over the market are long over. since sept 11, america's not been the center of finance. you can thank reagan, a republican for that. it all started with reaganomics.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reganomics

i know, that doesn't mean the guilt of being their instrument/accomplice is off
i think you also commented when i posted the video with reagan being shushed by a banker in his staff...

edit: plus if you go there in good will just to discover you are there to be stepped over, you're a fool
if you go there knowing what is expected from you (like 100% of the candidates i think) then you're garbage

[deadly_habit]

have the voter turnout stats come out yet out of curiosity?

[AllNightDayDream]

Edit: nvm, way too early.

[seckle]

its all about worldwide private equity like these guys. they control 90 billion dollars in private money.
http://www.charlierose.com/view/interview/11144

where did i hear stuff like that before....
ughh, it was me back in the time when you were giving everyone a buttslap for posts like this...

90 billions is nothing

no, you get it all wrong once again alien pimp. its not Amero/NWO/Illuminati. Its money. Its financial markets, and private equity. don't ever lump me into your conspiracy thinking rhetoric, because I don't believe in any of that hyped up crap. its greed and money, not some master plan to take over the world. its a handful of people that operate with an amount of money to do things without being caught. thats it.

[pkay]

have the voter turnout stats come out yet out of curiosity?

the exit polls show the 18-24 crowd that made obama, didn't even remotely turn out

Midterm turnout is generally lower but estimates are it was very low

[deadly_habit]

have the voter turnout stats come out yet out of curiosity?

the exit polls show the 18-24 crowd that made obama, didn't even remotely turn out

Midterm turnout is generally lower but estimates are it was very low

what i figured...

[alien pimp]

its not Amero/NWO/Illuminati. Its money. Its financial markets, and private equity..

yeah, nwo and money/financial markets are two totally distinct things
if you were more focused on what it's being said, not who's saying it you'd realise you're copy/pasting posts i made years ago
you're embarrassing...

[seckle]

its not Amero/NWO/Illuminati. Its money. Its financial markets, and private equity..

yeah, nwo and money/financial markets are two totally distinct things
if you were more focused on what it's being said, not who's saying it you'd realise you're copy/pasting posts i made years ago
you're embarrassing...

and you create the worst energy by far in threads like this. everything comes down to you, your ego and your rhetoric. go ahead and insult me again.

[alien pimp]

its not Amero/NWO/Illuminati. Its money. Its financial markets, and private equity..

yeah, nwo and money/financial markets are two totally distinct things
if you were more focused on what it's being said, not who's saying it you'd realise you're copy/pasting posts i made years ago
you're embarrassing...

and you create the worst energy by far in threads like this. everything comes down to you, your ego and your rhetoric. go ahead and insult me again.

standard reaction when fools run out of arguments

[seckle]

its not Amero/NWO/Illuminati. Its money. Its financial markets, and private equity..

yeah, nwo and money/financial markets are two totally distinct things
if you were more focused on what it's being said, not who's saying it you'd realise you're copy/pasting posts i made years ago
you're embarrassing...

and you create the worst energy by far in threads like this. everything comes down to you, your ego and your rhetoric. go ahead and insult me again.

standard reaction when fools run out of arguments

needing to insult people while arguing, means you've got no backbone or character. so go ahead and tell us all we're fools and idiots, and below you, because its just going to make the hole you're digging for yourself a bit deeper.

[alien pimp]

its not Amero/NWO/Illuminati. Its money. Its financial markets, and private equity..

yeah, nwo and money/financial markets are two totally distinct things
if you were more focused on what it's being said, not who's saying it you'd realise you're copy/pasting posts i made years ago
you're embarrassing...

and you create the worst energy by far in threads like this. everything comes down to you, your ego and your rhetoric. go ahead and insult me again.

standard reaction when fools run out of arguments

needing to insult people while arguing, means you've got no backbone or character. so go ahead and tell us all we're fools and idiots, and below you, because its just going to make the hole you're digging for yourself a bit deeper.

not to mention you're lying to cover up your lack of arguments, look at the part i just bolded... you've witnessed the countless times i complained about idiots turn threads about anything into threads about pimp because they can't really handle arguments... that makes you a coward too... pure embarrassment, that's what you are

[frank grimes jr.]

have the voter turnout stats come out yet out of curiosity?

the exit polls show the 18-24 crowd that made obama, didn't even remotely turn out

Midterm turnout is generally lower but estimates are it was very low

what i figured...

Don't jump the gun. Absentee ballots can be counted ten days after election day.
MA had a moderate turn out. I waited in line for my precinct 10 minutes. For the Presidential election, I was in and out.

[alien pimp]

from nov 2008:

here's my kind of argumentation:


there starts the change (press quotes and history data available for anyone, read by fewer ones, understood by...):


Timothy Geithner, newest member of obama's team:

“Since college, he has pretty much gone straight up the ladder,” Gary Weiss writes in Portfolio. “No detours, no backpacking around Europe, no internship fetching coffee.”

His informal group of advisers includes E. Gerald Corrigan, a managing director of Goldman Sachs and a former New York Fed president; Treasury Secretary Henry M. Paulson Jr.; John Thain, the CEO of Merrill Lynch; Paul A. Volcker, the former Fed chairman; and Peter G. Peterson, the former U.S. secretary of commerce.

James “Jamie” L. Dimon, the CEO and chairman of J.P. Morgan Chase, is a Geithner ally and a member of the board of the New York Fed.

This connection has raised some eyebrows, for it meant that in solving the Bear Stearns mess Geithner approved a $29 billion loan to a company run by a member of his board.


Geithner served as the point man in the talks that led to the Federal Reserve’s loan of $29 billion to assist J.P. Morgan Chase & Co. in its buyout of the assets of Bear Sterns.

member of Council on Foreign Relations:

...The Americans who subsequently returned from the conference became drawn to a discreet club of New York financiers and international lawyers who had organized previously in June 1918 and was headed by Elihu Root, J. P. Morgan's lawyer;[16] this select group called itself the Council on Foreign Relations.[10] They joined this group and the Council was formally established in New York on July 29, 1921, with 108 founding members, including Elihu Root as a leading member, ... and John W. Davis, the chief counsel for J. P. Morgan & Co. and former Solicitor General for President Wilson,[16]

The Council initially had strong connections to the Morgan interests Over time, however, the locus of power shifted inexorably to the Rockefeller family. Paul Cravath's law firm also represented the Rockefeller family.[21] Edwin Gay suggested the creation of a quarterly journal, Foreign Affairs.

Even from its inception, John D. Rockefeller, Jr. was a regular benefactor, making annual contributions, as well as a large gift of money towards its first headquarters on East 65th Street, along with corporate donors .

Another major support base from the outset was the corporate sector; around 26 corporations provided financial assistance in the 1920s, seizing the opportunity to inject their business concerns into the weighty deliberations of the academics and scholars in the Council's ruling elite.

John J. McCloy became an influential figure in the organization after the Second World War, and he held connections to both the Morgans and Rockefellers. As assistant to Secretary of War (and J. P. Morgan attorney) Henry Stimson during World War II, he had presided over important American war policies; his brother-in-law John Zinsser was on the board of directors of JP Morgan & Co. Harry S. Truman appointed him President of the World Bank Group.
McCloy's brother-in-law, Lewis W. Douglas, also served on the board of the CFR and as a trustee for the Rockefeller Foundation; Truman appointed him as American ambassador to Great Britain.[16]


The John Birch Society believes that the CFR plans a one-world government.[38] Wilson's Fourteen Points speech was the first in which he suggested a worldwide security organization to prevent future world wars.[9]

Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as "internationalists" and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure — one world, if you will. If that's the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it.
—David Rockefeller, "Memoirs" autobiography (2002, Random House publishers), page 405


Notable historical members


* Zbigniew Brzezinski
* William P. Bundy
* George H. W. Bush
* Dick Cheney

* Alan Greenspan

* David Rockefeller
* Jay Rockefeller
* George Soros
* Strobe Talbott


Corporate Members

* ABC News
* Alcoa
* American Express
* AIG
* Bank of America
* Bloomberg L.P.
* Boeing
* BP
* CA, Inc.
* Chevron
* Citigroup
* Coca-Cola
* De Beers
* Deutsche Bank
* Duke Energy
* DVS Group
* ExxonMobil
* FedEx
* Ford Motor
* General Electric
* GlaxoSmithKline
* Google



* Halliburton
* Heinz
* Hess
* IBM
* JPMorgan Chase
* Kohlberg Kravis Roberts
* Lockheed Martin
* MasterCard
* McGraw-Hill
* McKinsey
* Merck
* Merrill Lynch
* Morgan Stanley
* Motorola
* NASDAQ
* News Corp
* Nike
* PepsiCo
* Pfizer



* Shell Oil
* Sony Corporation of America
* Tata Group
* Time Warner
* Total S.A.
* Toyota Motor North America
* UBS
* United Technologies
* United States Chamber of Commerce
* U.S. Trust Corporation
* Verizon
* Visa[32]

[earlier quotes by someone regarding the military plans of obama are also from CFR's publication:!: ]



also member of Partnership for NYC founded by Rockfeller


so whats changing? same people stealing our money!

people who can't read history call it conspiracy!

[deadly_habit]

have the voter turnout stats come out yet out of curiosity?

the exit polls show the 18-24 crowd that made obama, didn't even remotely turn out

Midterm turnout is generally lower but estimates are it was very low

what i figured...

Don't jump the gun. Absentee ballots can be counted ten days after election day.
MA had a moderate turn out. I waited in line for my precinct 10 minutes. For the Presidential election, I was in and out.

i just have a feeling half the people so all about the stewart/colbert rally and always so vocal didn't even turn up to vote
when it comes to actual political process and voting it seems like the youth vote needs some celebrity like figure and constant pestering to just to partake in the process

[alien pimp]

or maybe the colbert fans finally figured out the vote is just some bullshit to give fools the impression they're part of the process and now they don't want to be part of the hoax called democracy

[frank grimes jr.]

This works on at least two relevant levels!

http://www.boingboing.net/2010/11/03/to ... ug-25.html